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We're talking about hundred of millions of pounds of revenue sharing here. Pounds that will be almost pure profit as the costs of the iPhone will be covered by the sales price, and resellers are no doubt shouldering much of the marketing and sales-related costs. Do you really think Apple are not going to "put that much work in" to protect hundreds of millions of pound's worth of almost pure profit over 18 months? They're a company, not a charity...

Uhh, it would be hundreds of millions of pounds if everyone were doing it. As it is, iPhone unlocking is just like installing 3rd Party hacks--it's haphazard and for power users primarily. What percentage of iPhone owners will try to unlock their phones? It's not high. I can tell you they aren't going to be losing that much. I am not saying that Apple won't break unlocking every time that they have a software update--they most certainly will, and that's a given. I am saying that it wouldn't make sense for them to just do minor updates like they have been with iTunes, where they pretend to add features, but mostly just break hacks. I don't see that happening the way they've done with ringtones, because it's a lot more of a pain for users to update their phones--Apple will break unlocking with updates, but they won't update just to break unlocking. That's what I think will happen.
 
In the first place, you own the phone, but Apple owns the platform and it's Apple's platform to do with as they see fit.

Why is it that people are so blind to this fact? "Oh, wow, the iPhone is so cool that I won't bother to worry about what restrictions or contractual obligations Apple places me under, I'm going to buy it and not care." That's in effect what you people are doing. It's stupid. Please stop. This thread is making my head throb.

I don't own an iPhone. I don't agree to Apple's EULA, I don't agree to use AT&T as my cell phone carrier, I don't want to use GSM, and I don't agree to have to pay twice for a song (in effect) just for the privilege of using it as a ringtone, particularly when there are more non-song sounds I would want to use as ring tones than songs.

Therefore, I (as I already said) don't own one, didn't buy one, and won't buy one.

How much intelligence does this actually take to figure out?
 
If you watch the youtube video, Steve is almost confused by the question, almost as if he only knew people were hacking the iPhone to add apps, and didn't know people were using it to unlock the iPhone. You didn't even get the impression that he knew what the term "unlock" meant. He went like "Oh you mean hacking", which could mean the addition of third-party apps, instead of flat-out unlocking.

Yeah that's pretty interesting actually, after watching the video he really did seem thrown by the question and didn't seem to understand what was meant by the term unlocking, despite the fact that the journalist clearly stated "unlocked for other networks".
 
If you watch the youtube video, Steve is almost confused by the question, almost as if he only knew people were hacking the iPhone to add apps, and didn't know people were using it to unlock the iPhone. You didn't even get the impression that he knew what the term "unlock" meant. He went like "Oh you mean hacking", which could mean the addition of third-party apps, instead of flat-out unlocking.

Yeah, you're right, it does look like he's talking about regular ol' hacks, not just unlocking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSgEpgKsLjU&mode=related&search=

That's strange, it really seems to contradict what Schiller was saying. At the same time, though, I think it all depends on a lot. I mean, he was talking about "their job security" in terms of DRM. I think that really directly relates it to unlocking--keeping the networks by keeping the phone locked down.

I don't know. In any case, Apple and the networks cannot win the battle in the end. People will hack every update they release within the month, probably even sooner. They can only change the API so much, so it's possible and likely that 3rd party programmers will have to fix their apps often to make them compatible. But how is that different from writing for the Mac Platform? we're STILL suffering from crappy Carbon applications because Apple changed to OS X from OS 9, and developers didn't want to update for a long time. Apple's got one of the fastest-changing APIs in the industry.

And yet with OS X you can't get around the fact that it's OS X. It's OS X on that iPhone, so it's just a matter of getting a compiler for that processor, and then getting your code to compile using that, and "reverse-engineering" the API. Apple will change little things up, and people will find them quickly and fix their stuff accordingly. The initial hack is the hardest, and that's been done.
 
Why is it that people are so blind to this fact? "Oh, wow, the iPhone is so cool that I won't bother to worry about what restrictions or contractual obligations Apple places me under, I'm going to buy it and not care." That's in effect what you people are doing. It's stupid. Please stop. This thread is making my head throb.

I would say, stop being hypocritical telling people that they are under no obligation to buy the phone and then acting like you have to read this thread and people are hurting you. You are under no contractual obligation to read this thread, and you've said everything you said in your post in previous posts. Allow me to mention to you that there is a button at the bottom of this thread to unsubscribe, and it will never bother you again.
 
In the first place, you own the phone, but Apple owns the platform and it's Apple's platform to do with as they see fit.

Why is it that people are so blind to this fact? "Oh, wow, the iPhone is so cool that I won't bother to worry about what restrictions or contractual obligations Apple places me under, I'm going to buy it and not care." That's in effect what you people are doing. It's stupid. Please stop. This thread is making my head throb.

I don't own an iPhone. I don't agree to Apple's EULA, I don't agree to use AT&T as my cell phone carrier, I don't want to use GSM, and I don't agree to have to pay twice for a song (in effect) just for the privilege of using it as a ringtone, particularly when there are more non-song sounds I would want to use as ring tones than songs.

Therefore, I (as I already said) don't own one, didn't buy one, and won't buy one.

How much intelligence does this actually take to figure out?

Excellent. Another one for the ignore pile. This thread is a goldmine!
 
Whoooooooo, just read the whole thread. Kinda dizzy now and not sure what the first post said :)

Will apple break the unlock with it's updates? I'd say yes. Intentionally or not it will happen. If the unblock exploits a percieved security hole / threat, then it is a no brainer.

Will the phone get re unlocked? Yep. Count on it. Too many smart people out there who will take it as a challenge.

I'm probably a non typical iphone user. I hate mobile phones. Used to purposly have the wrong number put on my business card :D I travel a lot and end up carying a phone, a PDA, an MP3 player (non Apple) and a notebook. The iphone just struck me as being really slick as I could use it as a phone, PDA and MP3 player. I had real probles getting to grips with itunes and the fact I can't use the iphone as a pen drive is a pain but at least they are small.

I use itunes 7.3.x. Don't see any reason to upgrade. It works OK. I think the iphone is brilliant. Sound quality is super. I have a works blackberry which is on an AT&T contract. I really didn't want to have to spend another 60 dollars a month just for the pleasure of using something which cost me 400 bucks to begin with. So I unlocked it. Use the AT&T sim I have and it works a treat. Auto locks into my home wireless network and performs flawlessly. I am assuming that the blackberry push emal is on some kind of edge data plan so I don't see a problem checking the odd email or webpage from the iphone. Could be wrong of course. I have now installed stumbler and a book reader and a dictionary and if I can get the darn thing to sync with outlook on my XP computer I'll be a happy man. However the error it gives me doesn't make sense so I have doubts I'll ever get it to work, but I can manually input the data so no big deal.

Do I want TV out or other upgrades? Not really. More than happy with what I have. I'll not bother updating itunes or the iphone unless it is "safe" to do so. I think apple have a superb bit of kit on their hands. I think it is a pity more people aren't able to use it, but hey that's life. I'm just a passenger on the bus:cool:

Pete
 
Okay, what's with all the moral slander that unlockers are the spawn of satan and are undermining the fabric of our country/world?

Let me set up this scene: I do not own an iPhone (yet). Seeing that the iPhones initially cost $500+ and would require an expensive contract, my wife and I began a new two-year contract with AT&T. Since then, the iPhone has dropped $200 & unlocking has been made possible. This would grant my wife and I the option of now owning two iPhones, and being able to continue using our existing phone plan with AT&T.

Apple gets the hardware money. AT&T gets the service money. Granted, Apple won't be getting their 40% cut, but they WILL make a hardware sale that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Plus there are consequences for us: no data plan, and possibly no VVM. All in all, we're paying less to get less, but the original parties are still getting their cash.

Is this wrong? If you're thinking 'yes' right now, what would it take for me to make it right? Cancel my existing AT&T contract, pay a termination fee, then re-enroll with AT&T, paying extra for data and VVM? My other option is just not buying an iPhone, but in that scenario neither Apple nor AT&T see a penny. In the prior two cases, they at least get something, which is better than nothing. So let's assume I pursue one of these two routes.

Until now, I've completely neglected what is fair to me. For example, is it fair for me to pay over a thousand dollars to terminate an AT&T contract so that I can start a new AT&T contact? I would find it VERY difficult to believe if you're thinking 'yes'. Not only wouldn't it be fair to me, but it wouldn't be fair to AT&T. They would probably make less if I signed up for an iPhone contract. And let's not all forget here, the Silver Bullet (and I'm only going to say this once): IT IS NOT ILLEGAL FOR A USER TO UNLOCK HIR OR HER PHONE. This should be argument enough to support us would-be "hackers."

The only immoral part of the iPhone purchasing process is the attempt by Apple and AT&T to limit your rights as a user and force you to use a specified carrier.

End of story.

-Clive
 
Let me set up this scene: I do not own an iPhone (yet). Seeing that the iPhones initially cost $500+ and would require an expensive contract, my wife and I began a new two-year contract with AT&T. Since then, the iPhone has dropped $200 & unlocking has been made possible. This would grant my wife and I the option of now owning two iPhones, and being able to continue using our existing phone plan with AT&T.

Apple gets the hardware money. AT&T gets the service money. Granted, Apple won't be getting their 40% cut, but they WILL make a hardware sale that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Plus there are consequences for us: no data plan, and possibly no VVM. All in all, we're paying less to get less, but the original parties are still getting their cash.

Is this wrong? If you're thinking 'yes' right now, what would it take for me to make it right? Cancel my existing AT&T contract, pay a termination fee, then re-enroll with AT&T, paying extra for data and VVM?
-Clive

We had a family plan and a new contract, but my specific phone was not under contract. AT&T let us add my phone to the plan and extend the contract (by 2 years from the date of purchase, NOT accumulating on top of the other contract). You wouldn't have to cancel your contract and pay termination fee to get an iPhone (w/o the unlock). You would still have to buy the iPhone data plan, though. AT&T wants more of your money. They aren't going to stop you from buying a device that they don't subsidize so that they can make more money off of you on your monthly bill.

That said, I am not disagreeing with you about the unlock business. I don't think it's wrong for AT&T/Apple to sell you a locked phone, that's standard fare with a contract. I don't know if it's wrong for them to break 3rd party unlocks with future updates... I'm inclined to think not. But for someone to say that it's wrong to unlock your phone? It's not even illegal.
 
Hard to understand because....

...it's a ridiculous idea! Hardware is *not* intellectual property. If I buy a tangible, physical piece of equipment, it most certainly IS mine to do whatever I want with it afterwards. The "restrictions" and "contractual obligations" I'm placed under with my iPhone are ALL about my SERVICE commitment with AT&T .... not about my right to modify the code within the phone itself.

Yes, Apple has made it clear that there's a certain manner in which they'd like things to go related to the phone's operations and features. (EG. Custom ring-tones should all be purchased for 99 cents each through the iTunes store and downloaded to your phone that way.) That doesn't mean if I don't accept that as MY preferred method of doing it, my ONLY logical option is to pass on buying the iPhone!

Looking deeper into that whole situation, one quickly learns that Apple never wanted to handle it that way in the first place. Unfortunately, they're being forced to do so by the RIAA, who insists that cellphone ring-tones made from songs constitute public performances of copyrighted works they hold the rights to -- and so they want financial compensation for them playing on your phones.

Myself? I chose to sign up with AT&T, accepting their terms of service with my iPhone. I will certainly also consider "unlocking" my phone in the future, if I ever travel overseas and it becomes financially advantageous to do so. This, of course, wouldn't change a thing for AT&T, as I'm still paying them my monthly fee as agreed (or paying their penalty for terminating it early?). But it would let me swap SIMs for a "pay as you go" SIM that might make more sense in that circumstance.

It will probably end up for the courts to decide if Apple's official stance of "we're going to block people from unlocking our phone" is acceptable or not. It MAY be perfectly legal, ONLY because their phone isn't really "subsidized" in the traditional sense. (And laws about unlocking refer to subsidized phones.)

But ultimately, Apple sold me a piece of HARDWARE (defined as electronics parts coupled with firmware that makes them function) -- and *I* retain the right to modify any of that for my own personal use. I'm not LEASING the phone from Apple.


In the first place, you own the phone, but Apple owns the platform and it's Apple's platform to do with as they see fit.

Why is it that people are so blind to this fact? "Oh, wow, the iPhone is so cool that I won't bother to worry about what restrictions or contractual obligations Apple places me under, I'm going to buy it and not care." That's in effect what you people are doing. It's stupid. Please stop. This thread is making my head throb.

I don't own an iPhone. I don't agree to Apple's EULA, I don't agree to use AT&T as my cell phone carrier, I don't want to use GSM, and I don't agree to have to pay twice for a song (in effect) just for the privilege of using it as a ringtone, particularly when there are more non-song sounds I would want to use as ring tones than songs.

Therefore, I (as I already said) don't own one, didn't buy one, and won't buy one.

How much intelligence does this actually take to figure out?
 
What I don't get is the "I travel abroad a lot" argument for unlocking.

First of all, AT&T does offer an international roaming plan can you switch on and off, paying for it only when you are going to be out of the country. It's not super cheap, but it's a whole lot less expensive than paying full international roaming rates without the plan.

And for maybe $25 you can get a legitimately unlocked GSM world phone -- I think there must be three of them lying around my house right now, either weren't carrier locked in the first place or can be legitimately unlocked as they are post-contract. When the new firmware is released, it has an option to turn off EDGE roaming, so you can still use Wi-Fi without fear of roaming onto international EDGE networks. Don't answer your iPhone if it rings. Pick up a local SIM wherever you are and pay local rates for your cheap-o "travel phone". It's not like you get to keep your current phone number using a local SIM, anyway: you have to tell people who need to call you the local number that gets assigned to your local SIM.

Why is this such a big deal? You can still use everything but the actual phone features of your iPhone this way, and it's not like you'll be missing much because even if the phone were unlocked and it was perfectly permissible to drop in a local SIM when traveling abroad, you're not going to have your usual number, your usual voice-mail box, or any of the features that depend on specific carrier support.



Why is it a big deal? Well,what';s the point of having an iphone if you have to bring an extra phone to make calls when you're travelling. If you only travel occasionally, I can see that being a solution, but if you travel frequently it really isn't convenient to bring another phone (and another charger). The whole point and beauty of the iphone (vs. the ipod touch) is the phone feature and that everything is in one small unit...
 
hmm..

I'd think being that..you know.. dood's been in the game a while now:rolleyes:, he just may have the resources to keep up.

My bet's on Steve, care to wager?
Yeah, but the dudes not been in the phone business very long. Thats a whole nother ball of wax right. A phone is not an iPod.
 
Nicely put, but not reality. ... His quote makes it clear that, like OS X on Macs, iPhones will remained locked... enjoy...
What other network service provider do you want to switch to for OS-X? :)

Seriously though, you are confabulating two different issues, (iPhone locked vs. iPhone unlocked, and iPhone development open vs. iPhone development closed.) You are also somehow trying to equate OS-X being shipped only on Mac PC's with either the iPhone being locked to AT&T's network, or with iPhone 3rd party development being closed? (it's unclear which) Neither comparison makes much sense IMO.

Also, these and many other apparently polarized situations are usually far from being so in reality. There are many shades of grey in-between.
 
What other network service provider do you want to switch to for OS-X? :)

Seriously though, you are confabulating two different issues, (iPhone locked vs. iPhone unlocked, and iPhone development open vs. iPhone development closed.) You are also somehow trying to equate OS-X being shipped only on Mac PC's with either the iPhone being locked to AT&T's network, or with iPhone 3rd party development being closed? (it's unclear which) Neither comparison makes much sense IMO.

Also, these and many other apparently polarized situations are usually far from being so in reality. There are many shades of grey in-between.
Exactly. OS X is not "locked". Last time I checked, I could install any app I wanted & could pretty much do whatever else I wanted with my machine/OS. Especially with the UNIX shell right there.

Its locked to the hardware, but thats not the issue. This would be like Apple selling their computers & requiring you to ONLY use a certain provider for internet service.

I always said locking down the phone to only certain carriers was the stupidest move Apple could make with such a device. The "no 3rd party apps" stance is just icing on the cake.
 
Scott,

It doesn't bother me at all that I chose to sign a contract and you didn't have to. The only thing that bugs me is that I really think all this unlocking is holding up the works as far as timely feature updates, and since I paid for my iPhone, too, and I'd like to get the feature enhancements, your decision to violate the license is affecting me, where as my decision to abide by the license doesn't affect you at all.

Oh what a load of BS. Stop whining, sanford, whoever you are. What is this, the 'sanford show'?

"Apple's lack of updates are being caused by them having to stop the hackers waah waaaaahwaaaaaahh"

Maybe Apple's lack of the latest update is because they just haven't written it with your demanding nature in mind?
 
I fail to see how people can say it is wrong to unlock the iPhone, I can see where the argument comes from, but it's a weak argument at best.

I don't know about the US, but in the UK it's very unusual (maybe even un-heard of) for a network company to not subsidise a phone on a contract, my friend has a >£500+ (≈$1,000) for free with a contract.

Limiting the choice to one network seriously limits choice in the UK, where networks are plentiful (Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Three... even Tesco supermarket has its own mobile network!)

So if I have >12 months left on my contract, it would cost me over £360 to buy out my contract, (and its possible O2 will refuse me a contract anyway, long story), should I go without an iPhone?

I've bought one fair and square, Apple have their profit from it. O2 don't, but I have nothing from them in return.

P.S. I read somewhere it illegal to lock a phone to a network in the UK, can anyone confirm (or deny) this? I'm sure 'unlocked' is a term used frequently when buying and selling phones, so it must be legal to have locked phones?
 
I don't understand everyone getting upset by unlocking the iphone. As a apple shareholder I understand why apple locked into a carrier, to profit from monthly fees. But I also believe that unlocking is good for apple also. For one every other country that does not have a contract with apple, ie Canada, every phone sold just helps profits that otherwise would be impossible. Im sure sales have improved by the unlocking that has come about. More sales = higher stock prices. There is a large market outside Us, UK, Germany, ect. There's no denying that the unlock caters to these markets very nicely.

In my personal case I despise AT&T. I have had such bad service by this company. It is the only company I ever delt with that made me so mad They forced me in yelling at the poor phone reps. Also the fact that they give all their records with the US government. I don't liked being spy'd on. When apple anounced the partnership I decided that I would not be giving my money to them for the phone. Since the unlock I have bought one to use on tmobile. Thats revenue that apple otherwise would not have generated.

I think if apple really wanted to tie into one carrier they should haved offered the customer a discounted iphone if you sign the at&t contact. And a higher price for an unlocked phone. this is how its always been in the cell phone arena. What incentive do you have to sign a 2 year contact if you have to pay full price for the phone. Jsut my.02$.
 
I don't understand why it matters to AT&T or Apple if people unlock the phone. An unlocked iPhone still won't sneak on to AT&T's network. AT&T is still the only service in the U.S. that the iPhone is 100% compatible... if that is not enough for someone, so be it, let them use it with the service they want.

Apple never should have made so many restrictions on how you can use the iPhone. This was the same mentality that nearly killed the Mac.
 
But what about those who buy a phone and cancel their contracts with ATT but keep the phone? Surely, they are still apple customers and should be allowed to sync with itunes?
They would have activated their phones properly and wouldn't have the problem. You wouldn't need to use an activation hack if you had signed up with and then canceled the AT&T service.

Well, I am wondering how the agreements on the iphone can be valid at all, if you don't agree to them while activating on itunes. It seems to me you didn't agree to anything at that point, if you just purchased the phone but activated via other means.
Because willful ignorance doesn't get you anywhere. You have enough information to know that what you're doing is intentionally evading agreement to terms. Your use of the product is legally adequate assent to the terms of the contract given to you with said product.

Your actual agreement is measured only by objective observation, not your secret mental state while doing so.

...it's a ridiculous idea! Hardware is *not* intellectual property.
Actually, that's not entirely true. There are a number of intellectual property rights related to the hardware itself. What you're saying is that possession of the object is yours, which is true.

That does not extend to the software on the phone, however. The firmware on it most certainly is protected by law and owned wholly by Apple.
If I buy a tangible, physical piece of equipment, it most certainly IS mine to do whatever I want with it afterwards.
With the hardware. If you want to snap it in half, play with a soldering iron, or erase the memory and install something of your own on it instead of Apple firmware (and so long as "your" firmware does not contain ANY of Apple's), go for it.
not about my right to modify the code within the phone itself.
Err, no. You have no rights to the code save a nonexclusive license for the execution of said code. You have no legal right of access to Apple's source code. If you want to modify the code and compile it yourself and keep it to yourself, that's fine. If you want to reverse engineer the binaries, you can. But they don't have to make it easy for you to install third-party code. They don't have to allow the distribution of code that infringes on any of their rights. They don't have to work around third-party code on the phones (and therefore can break whatever they want to break, whenever they want to break it).
It will probably end up for the courts to decide if Apple's official stance of "we're going to block people from unlocking our phone" is acceptable or not.
There is no need to take it that far. They can do anything they please with firmware updates, iTunes updates, or carrier network operations.
(And laws about unlocking refer to subsidized phones.)
No, they refer to all cellular handsets. It is not a qualified exception.
and *I* retain the right to modify any of that for my own personal use.
Sure. But they have the right to modify any of it for any reason they feel like, so you've gained no advantage. They still have superior interest in every aspect of the phone's firmware; AT&T likewise still has full control over how it interacts with their network.
 
Sounds like fifth grade recess in the playground to me

About half these stylin' posts about unlocking the iPhone or hacking it to accept native third party apps have an attitude that sums up roughly as "If I feel like it, I will." It reminds me of how some drivers act when they rip through our tiny village in this dairy farming valley at 60mph instead of doing 30 for one whole mile...

The thing is, that same "If I feel like it, I will" stance is also taken by the county sheriff's deputies with respect to writing tickets in the zone. Imagine that. And the speeding drivers always seem so shocked when the cop turns on the party lights...

I expect iPhone users who violate their agreements with Apple may be angry and surprised if Apple seriously cracks down or takes legal action against hackers. The hackers won't have a leg to stand on, any more than do the morons who crest this curving hilltop out here in their SUVs at 68mph, without thought of hitting the back of a slow moving manure spreader or an 1800-pound Holstein out for a stroll. A hamburger check at 68mph is not something you can brush off. And I rather suspect that if Apple comes at you with a cease and desist order with plenty of legs in the terms you agreed to, you can't brush that off either.

Time to grow up. The iPhone is a sophisticated mobile communications device incorporating patented and licensed constructions, and it must operate within FCC parameters for such devices. . Of course it has terms of use. Get over it and adhere to them. I've rarely heard so silly a thing as the argument that Apple means disrespect to developers if it's seen to be cracking down on hackers. What?! And as for the unlocking... let Apple do it when the time comes, after its exclusive gig with ATT expires.
 
About half these stylin' posts about unlocking the iPhone or hacking it to accept native third party apps have an attitude that sums up roughly as "If I feel like it, I will." It reminds me of how some drivers act when they rip through our tiny village in this dairy farming valley at 60mph instead of doing 30 for one whole mile...

The thing is, that same "If I feel like it, I will" stance is also taken by the county sheriff's deputies with respect to writing tickets in the zone. Imagine that. And the speeding drivers always seem so shocked when the cop turns on the party lights...

I expect iPhone users who violate their agreements with Apple may be angry and surprised if Apple seriously cracks down or takes legal action against hackers. The hackers won't have a leg to stand on, any more than do the morons who crest this curving hilltop out here in their SUVs at 68mph, without thought of hitting the back of a slow moving manure spreader or an 1800-pound Holstein out for a stroll. A hamburger check at 68mph is not something you can brush off. And I rather suspect that if Apple comes at you with a cease and desist order with plenty of legs in the terms you agreed to, you can't brush that off either.

Time to grow up. The iPhone is a sophisticated mobile communications device incorporating patented and licensed constructions, and it must operate within FCC parameters for such devices. . Of course it has terms of use. Get over it and adhere to them. I've rarely heard so silly a thing as the argument that Apple means disrespect to developers if it's seen to be cracking down on hackers. What?! And as for the unlocking... let Apple do it when the time comes, after its exclusive gig with ATT expires.

And I tire of holier-than-thou types like you.Although technically you have a point about people that say Apple is disrespecting developers - we are being naughty.

But here's a thing. THE PHONE SHOULD NOT BE LOCKED!!!

As is quoted somewhere else in this thread, it's against some law in the US to charge your customers for a phone and then force them to use a certain network if it's capable of using any network.
 
I feel like buying an iPhone and unlocking it just to wind up sanford and (allegedly) delay "his" update by a few more weeks. LOL

Honestly, the sinple facts are these: unlockers don't really have any right to be pissed off when Apple lock the phone back down. They can do that to the code if they want to. It's their code. We just buy the right to use it. It doesn't become our code.

Whether or not Apple and AT&T are allowed to restrict use of the iPhone to just AT&T after we've already bought the handset is another issue, and one that I'd much rather read about rather than people getting terribly personal and/or holier-than-thou with each other, which achieves nothing.
 
As is quoted somewhere else in this thread, it's against some law in the US to charge your customers for a phone and then force them to use a certain network if it's capable of using any network.
No, it's not. It's against the law to, using copyright law as a basis to do so, sue a customer for unlocking his phone--quite a different beast.
 
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