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Apple to Add 500 New Jobs at European Headquarters in Ireland

calb said:
Are you serious?
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Absolutely nothing beats american ingenuity, drive and determination.

The majority of positions could have easily been filled by American workers willing to work abroad and/or a large portion of those operations could have been conducted within the US, itself.

The point is a solution which keeps Americans employed and supports our infrastructure could have been explored and implemented.
 
Doc750 said:
Apple should be blasted in the media and given a black eye by the public.

I really hope the story plays out in mainstream media as "apple moves jobs overseas to avoid paying American wages and taxes."
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Having the European distribution centre in Europe is not a case of moving jobs overseas.
 
Doc750 said:
Absolutely nothing beats american ingenuity, drive and determination.

The majority of positions could have easily been filled by American workers willing to work abroad and/or a large portion of those operations could have been conducted within the US, itself.

The point is a solution which keeps Americans employed and supports our infrastructure could have been explored and implemented.
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And I suppose the rest of the world, Ireland included, doesn't have the right to be part of a global corporation. Yes, the US was at the forefront of the global recession, but it wasn't the only country affected by it. I commend apple for branching out and offering more jobs at a time when companies are still finding it difficult to run and keep its employees paid.

I'm fed up of these egotistical posts from our American counterparts, who feel as though the world should revolve around them. Yes, Apple is a US based company, but you are not it's only market and if there is demand and expertise elsewhere, why shouldn't a company expand its workforce overseas

/rantover. :eek:
 
Doc750 said:
Apple should be blasted in the media and given a black eye by the public.

I really hope the story plays out in mainstream media as "apple moves jobs overseas to avoid paying American wages and taxes."
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I'm willing to bet those wages are costing Apple more to pay in Ireland than in the US.


Doc750 said:
Absolutely nothing beats american ingenuity, drive and determination.
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Is there any factual content behind this statement, or is it mere puff? It makes you look very ignorant.

Can I ask what you've seen on your travels that has shaped your opinion so? Where have you visited?
 
theGAPkid said:
And I suppose the rest of the world, Ireland included, doesn't have the right to be part of a global corporation. Yes, the US was at the forefront of the global recession, but it wasn't the only country affected by it. I commend apple for branching out and offering more jobs at a time when companies are still finding it difficult to run and keep its employees paid.

I'm fed up of these egotistical posts from our American counterparts, who feel as though the world should revolve around them. Yes, Apple is a US based company, but you are not it's only market and if there is demand and expertise elsewhere, why shouldn't a company expand its workforce overseas

/rantover. :eek:
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You mean the world doesn't revolve around us!!??:confused: :eek:

:rolleyes:
 
Doc750 said:
Apple should be blasted in the media and given a black eye by the public.

I really hope the story plays out in mainstream media as "apple moves jobs overseas to avoid paying American wages and taxes."
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Yes coz jobs that relates to running operations in Europe should stay here in the U.S., and should not be moved to Europe. That makes a lot of sense man. Thank you for your infinite wisdom.
 
*LTD* said:
Except when it's Asian.

American industry has been outworked, outplayed, and outgunned.
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The Asians lacked the ability to put the whole thing together into something that sells. All they are able to do is copy, steal, tweak and use cheap labor to outbid.

theGAPkid said:
And I suppose the rest of the world, Ireland included, doesn't have the right to be part of a global corporation. Yes, the US was at the forefront of the global recession, but it wasn't the only country affected by it. I commend apple for branching out and offering more jobs at a time when companies are still finding it difficult to run and keep its employees paid.

I'm fed up of these egotistical posts from our American counterparts, who feel as though the world should revolve around them. Yes, Apple is a US based company, but you are not it's only market and if there is demand and expertise elsewhere, why shouldn't a company expand its workforce overseas

/rantover. :eek:
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Get the Irish to design and engineer their own products. Other then Guinness and hot chicks there isn't much coming out of there.

Wurm5150 said:
Yes coz jobs that relates to running operations in Europe should stay here in the U.S., and should not be moved to Europe. That makes a lot of sense man. Thank you for your infinite wisdom.
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Your welcome
 
I'm surprised they don't outsource the work to WIPRO, plenty of graduates from Chennai will work for a nann bread and madras each day plus €50 a day to send back home.
 
Reason077 said:
The risk with this continued growth at Apple is that, like many large companies, they will start to lose focus and become bloated with internal bureaucracy.

Steve was consistent in his vision that Apple should continue to operate and behave like a small company even as it grew. I certainly hope that under Tim's leadership this will continue, but I fear that this mindset is already starting to erode as Apple's growth accelerates.
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A fair point, and if these jobs were in engineering you'd be right. But I don't think there's any real alternative when you're growing as Apple is. You might be able to keep engineering teams the same size, but you have to grow your support staff as your customer base grows.

Doc750 said:
Apple should be blasted in the media and given a black eye by the public.

I really hope the story plays out in mainstream media as "apple moves jobs overseas to avoid paying American wages and taxes."
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Apple isn't moving any jobs anywhere. They're creating new jobs which previously didn't exist. Surely it makes more sense to have the European support centre in Europe, than in the US? As someone who lives in Cork and has been hired (3 times!) and even fired (once) by Apple, I'm very appreciative of their contribution to the city!
 
Doc750 said:
Get the Irish to design and engineer their own products. Other then Guinness and hot chicks there isn't much coming out of there.
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That is pretty insulting. We are a country of a little over 4.5 million people. We punch far above our weight in a global scale as it is. If we had another 350 million people , maybe then we would be in a better position to "design our own products". We actually have the best import to export ratio in the European Union.

As it is American multinational companies set up here , not just because our low corporation tax, but because our people are some of the most intelligent, friendly and hard working people in the developed world.
 
rdstoll said:
European HQ in Ireland = tax shelter.

Another fine American company dodging taxes in Ireland.
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What's wrong with that? Maybe other countries should lower their taxes to allow for companies to create jobs in them. The majority of tech companies reside in Ireland for their Euro/African HQs for a reason.
 
adamtj11 said:
That is pretty insulting. We are a country of a little over 4.5 million people. We punch far above our weight in a global scale as it is. If we had another 350 million people , maybe then we would be in a better position to "design our own products". We actually have the best import to export ratio in the European Union.

As it is American multinational companies set up here , not just because our low corporation tax, but because our people are some of the most intelligent, friendly and hard working people in the developed world.
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Then why does the EU want to drop you?

Your tax are low to bring multinational corporations to your shores. But the ridiculously low tax rates doesn't go to support your people. They only ones who benefit are the corporations and the kick backs to the politicians.

The smart Irish are the ones who came to the US to make a better life for themselves.
 
Maybe they will hire those Greenpeace protestors to clean up the mess they made.... and then fire them. I still want to see somebody organize a protest of the Greenpeace headquarters.
 
Doc750 said:
Then why does the EU want to drop you?

Your tax are low to bring multinational corporations to your shores. But the ridiculously low tax rates doesn't go to support your people. They only ones who benefit are the corporations and the kick backs to the politicians.

The smart Irish are the ones who came to the US to make a better life for themselves.
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Better life for themselves? We have one of the highest rankings for quality of life in the world. Yes times are tougher right now than they were 5 years ago, but it's no different anywhere else.

For someone like myself being a Computer Scientist graduate in the near future , Ireland is a fantastic place to be thanks to the amount of IT companies now in Ireland, whether they are Irish or not.
 
Doc750 said:
Then why does the EU want to drop you?

Your tax are low to bring multinational corporations to your shores. But the ridiculously low tax rates doesn't go to support your people. They only ones who benefit are the corporations and the kick backs to the politicians.

The smart Irish are the ones who came to the US to make a better life for themselves.
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The rest of the EU doesn't want to drop Ireland, you ignoramus. They're currently doing just fine paying back the bailout at an interest rate that makes us money. They're the United Kingdom's greatest trade partner, and a veritable lifeline.

I suggest you check your egotism, xenophobia and downright ignorant attitude at the door before you post again, lest you're banned. Might I also kindly suggest you learn of America's role in the recession before hurling insults at countries struggling to cope with said recession.

America is a wonderful country that I've had the pleasure of visiting many times. Your attitude perpetuates a myth abroad that does your fellow countrymen a great disservice. I'll finish with reiterating my question; where have you visited that shaped the opinion you hold?
 
Peace said:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned they make the Mac Pro in Cork.
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And they are adding 500 jobs NOW, and tons of folks are impatiently waiting for the MacPro. It is hard to connect the dots when all some here do is complain and mock. The fog in the head is working. :) Must be the other RDF.

Here's a photo of the HQ:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sigalakos/5897566517/

Rocketman
 
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