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I'm hoping beyond hope that whatever is causing the overheating on the 15 is the same thing causing battery drain on my iPhone Pro Max 13. I've been on iOS 17 for about 2 weeks now, so any of the reindexing, etc. should all be done. My phone goes through its battery much, much faster now. Before iOS 17 I had never had an instance of running low on this iPhone, even on days with very heavy usage. Now, even with normal usage, I end up on low power mode by the early evening. I should have known not to upgrade to a new iOS version until it had been vetted by the public. This is not my first time to be burned by Apple.
 
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I'm just curious, but do you use wireless charging often? I wonder if all of the heat generated by wireless charging is what's decimating people's batteries.
Never.
I only use cable.
Wireless is slow, the charger is expensive. I don’t like wireless.
Charge all night and use all day - back to charging before sleep on wire.
 
Too little too late - iPhone only has a 14 day return window. And really, I had only a little over a week before I had to leave for a trip, giving me no time left to sit here playing with updates and other nonsense. I need a dependable phone when traveling I am not playing with any of this while I am away from home. This should not have taken over a week to address.
 
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iPhone 15 Pro testing engineer: hmmm is the phone getting toasty while using insta? naah it’s only because my sexy hot body bouncing its intensity off the back glass.
 
I surely hope not, if it’s an IOS bug then hopefully they will resolve that and leave any sort of performance throttling alone.
Every single modern cellphone, tablet and computer throttles. They have for quite some time. If you don't, they melt down or the battery explodes or the CPU can't get enough voltage and shuts down. Your CPU throttles. Your GPU throttles. The processor that controls the timing on your car's engine, it throttles (Bad car pun.) Even the servers that are dishing out this website throttle when they get warm. The question is, do the algorithms that control that throttling need to be altered? I suspect the answer is, yes.
 
Too little too late - iPhone only has a 14 day return window. And really, I had only a little over a week before I had to leave for a trip, giving me no time left to sit here playing with updates and other nonsense. I need a dependable phone when traveling I am not playing with any of this while I am away from home. This should not have taken over a week to address.
Maybe a flip phone is for you then.
 
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Can they also please fix the crazy battery drain on my 14 pro. Had no issues until iOS 17 was installed.
One of my iPhones was having the same problem. I powered it off for a few minutes then turned it back on. It's fine now. I halfway suspect zero day malware that is non persistent.
 
I think it’s good that we have a clear statement here from apple.
I only have Uber on my phone from the apps mentioned but haven’t used it since I got the 15 Pro.
 
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Apple is lying the iPhone 14 pro max and the 13 pro max also over heats when gaming and charging and dims the display it’s not an iOS issue it’s a hardware issue where Apple doesn’t want to add a vapour cooling chamber
 
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I don't know if it's my suggestion, but I just uninstalled Instagram and the heat that was coming out of the area shown in the video disappeared. The upper right part...
 
Good article on this topic - Still speculative.


TSMC also claimed that its 3 nm node would deliver 15 percent better performance and consume up to 35 percent less power than its N5 node. However, Apple’s claims about the A17 Pro at the iPhone 15 Pro launch stated that CPU performance would only be around 10 percent faster and would deliver - despite slightly higher battery capacities in the new iPhone 15 Pro models - only around the same battery life as the previous iPhone 14 Pro series. This suggests that TSMC’s 3 nm node has not lived up to the company’s promises. It is also notable that even though the A17 Pro gains around 3 billion extra transistors over the A16 chip, Apple has had to boost the CPU clock on the A17 Pro performance cores to 3.79 GHz, up from 3.46 GHz on the A16 Bionic chip to make performance gains. This in itself could cause issues with overheating, and also helps to explain the nil gains in battery life despite the vaunted new 3 nm process.

The other major power drawing component in Apple’s A17 Pro chip that deserves closer scrutiny is its all-new GPU design. Apple says that it is the most significant GPU architecture overhaul since it first started designing Apple silicon and features hardware accelerated ray tracing and mesh shading support. To help highlight how powerful the new GPU is -- claimed to be 20% faster than the A16 GPU -- Apple has partnered with leading PC game makers to bring recent AAA games like Death Stranding, Assassin's Creed Mirage, Resident Evil Village and Resident Evil 4 to the platform. Flagship PC and console titles have been a long time coming to the iPhone -- notably, Resident Evil Village is limited to just the new iPhone 15 Pro models, and iPads with an M1 chip or newer.

However, there are significant question marks hanging over the new GPU as well. According to a report by The Information, Apple had originally planned to debut this GPU architecture in last year's A16 Bionic chip; however, it was pulled at the last minute. The reason? The prototype GPUs were prone to overheating the device and also drew too much power. The fiasco was said to be the biggest ever mistake made by the Apple silicon team, which at the time, had also been seeing a string of its top chip engineers leave the company for startups or other companies. Undoubtedly, Apple has continued to work on the design in the intervening months, before the new GPU architecture eventually made its way to the A17 Pro. Its engineers probably also expected that the die-shrink to an ostensibly more efficient node would mitigate any lingering overheating and power consumption concerns -- if it performed to specification.
 
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I think it’s good that we have a clear statement here from apple.
I only have Uber on my phone from the apps mentioned but haven’t used it since I got the 15 Pro.
People do not use Uber, Uber uses people. That said, have you turned off all the background stuff in the Uber app? If not, it is tracking everywhere you go 24/7. That can make it use a lot of power and generate some heat.
 
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High operating temperature, even when temporary, does have a long term impact on semiconductor reliability. That said, it is the temperature of the electronics that matter, not how the metal case of the phone “feels”.

The human hand does not feel temperature. It feels the rate of heat transfer out of the phone that is driven by the temperature differential. If your hand can’t transfer heat away from the surface of your hand faster than a metal object can conduct it your hand heats to the temperature of the object and, if the metal object can remain hot enough, you are burned. All metal objects are far more efficient at conducting heat from one object to another and the newer titanium frame in a better conductor than the old stainless steel.

Hence, a low conduction object like a ceramic at, say, 160°F (121°C) will not burn you hand while a high thermal conductivity metal object like copper or silver will cause second degree burns almost immediately. That’s why drinking hot coffee from a low conductivity ceramic cup is safe while drinking it from a metal cup will burn your lips.
 
High operating temperature, even when temporary, does have a long term impact on semiconductor reliability. That said, it is the temperature of the electronics that matter, not how the metal case of the phone “feels”.

The human hand does not feel temperature. It feels the rate of heat transfer out of the phone that is driven by the temperature differential. If your hand can’t transfer heat away from the surface of your hand faster than a metal object can conduct it your hand heats to the temperature of the object and, if the metal object can remain hot enough, you are burned. All metal objects are far more efficient at conducting heat from one object to another and the newer titanium frame in a better conductor than the old stainless steel.

Hence, a low conduction object like a ceramic at, say, 160°F (121°C) will not burn you hand while a high thermal conductivity metal object like copper or silver will cause second degree burns almost immediately. That’s why drinking hot coffee from a low conductivity ceramic cup is safe while drinking it from a metal cup will burn your lips.
The temperature of the coffee can have as much of a burn factor as the temperature of the ceramic. Fun fact, water is a good thermal conductor.
 
Too little too late - iPhone only has a 14 day return window. And really, I had only a little over a week before I had to leave for a trip, giving me no time left to sit here playing with updates and other nonsense. I need a dependable phone when traveling I am not playing with any of this while I am away from home. This should not have taken over a week to address.
There are always software issues when there are major releases. Not everything gets identified during beta testing. The risk in buying the phone on Day 1 is that you'll encounter these types of issues. I'd say Apple's response was pretty quick.
 
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"Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are causing them to overload the system. We're working with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling out." is Apple's polite way of telling Instagram/Meta to get its **** together.😂😂😂
 
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