I think they will support Googles version because the pressure to make imessage open to everyone. Supporting Google rcs will drop Europe from forcing apple to make imessage cross platform
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Apple to Adopt RCS Messaging Standard for Better Interoperability With Android Devices
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I don’t see EU being able to force rhe iMessage protocol cross platform. I can see Apple wanting to keep their protocol closed and internal. I think it would be more likely that they would be forced to allow any messaging application be the default app and all that default app have the ability to fall back to SMS / carrier-level messaging.
There is no governmental or antitrust concern about apple’s app not supporting all other protocols or apps. As more than a few hundred people have already said WhatsApp is more widely using in EU. Being able to set WhatsApp as the default and allow it to fall back and/ or support RCS if it wants would more than allow iOS and android users to have this magical full featured interoperability.
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That I just don't understand. I have both, and they're pretty much the same to me. Android is more configurable, but the iPhone does everything it needs to do too. I don't hate either one and actually like them both.
More of the EU meddling in things they should stay out of. I care about as much as I did before, it's never hampered my messaging with Android friends before but I guess now they EU can say they did something.
Apple was against it because, by refusing the participate in the development of RCS, they could tell their users that Android was inherently inferior. And some (most?) Apple users believed it.
Is Apple?
Seriously, maybe you should be sure never to use Google Chrome browser, Gmail, Google maps, Google Docs, or any other Google product.
Good luck with that.
Almost certainly.
Now that Apple has successfully convinced its users that, essentially, "Android Bad! Android Green!" its users will continue to believe that Apple is inherently superior to everything else. So Apple will keep the green/blue bubbles in order to promote the stigma of green bubbles belonging to those poor people with no money who can only afford inferior Android phones.
Why would they do that? This will benefit both Android and Apple users.
EU Regulations are the only reason this is happening at all. It certainly wasn't because Apple suddenly realized that they should have been participating in the development of RCS all along.
As for you not being hampered by messaging with Android users, if you haven't noticed a decrease in the quality of images/videos sent over the crappy old SMS/MMS protocol, then you haven't been paying attention.
For every person saying that Android is a terrible OS, there's another (like me) who says the same about iOS.
Android and Apple phones all do the same things. The difference is in how people prefer to interact with their phones. Apple is a master at marketing and has convinced some of its users that only poor people use Android because they can't afford an iPhone. The reality is that some people like the simplicity of Apple's iOS (with its lack of customization and individual choice) while others prefer to have more say over their phone experience and like the customization that Android gives them.
As far as RCS goes, I'm glad to finally see Apple actually participate in the RCS standard (something that they should have been doing for the past 10+ years) instead of relying on SMS/MMS technology that hasn't been useful since people ditched their flip-phones with the pull-out antenna.
"standards protocol compliant?"
Everything that speaks SMS/MMS (including Android phones) is standards-compliant. The real question is why Apple wasn't involved in developing the RCS standard 10+ years ago, when they could have insisted on things like E2E encryption. Instead, they abdicated and left it to Google -- which implemented its own proprietary E2EE technology, just as Apple did with iMessage. At least now (or, more specifically, after next fall when Apple finally updates iMessage to use something newer than the ancient SMS/MMS protocols) people will be able to send each other high-res photos/videos, get read receipts, etc.
I doubt that will happen. But it would be a non-issue if Apple had participated in the development of the RCS specs when it should have, 10+ years ago, instead of abdicating and leaving it to Google to handle by itself.
Agreed, and from what I have read Apple is planning to work with GSMA to do just that. But my largest criticism of Apple in this regard is its refusal to participate in developing the RCS standard from the beginning. If Apple had gotten involved and actually participated, it would have been able to resolve many of these issues of interoperability years ago. Instead, they focused on their balance sheet -- customers be damned -- and the result is that they left a power vacuum that Google filled. Now Apple is playing catch-up to do something they should have done a long time ago.
Doesn’t matter. Many carriers didn’t support it 10+ year ago either. Any many still don’t today. But enough to start making it available now. And that is all that matter.
Yep. My mum is the only iPhone user who messages with through iMessage. All the other iPhone users in my contacts send me messages through WhatsApp. It’s strange because we actually have a high iPhone market share in the UK but iMessage has never been a thing here.
Well, let's hope a change will come opposed to continue using services like WhatsApp. I appreciate it is easy, but we are the product. More and more official use (governments) are banning its use, as they should. And it's highly proprietary. I can't stand WhatsApp.
Not paying attention? Sorry, but, well, no?
It looks fine to me. I have a few friends I message regularly and it's fine. I'm not sure what miracle people are looking for, but it looks fine to me. So this is not a big deal to me, it's not the light from above that some people are making it out to be.
Android is not just for poor people lmao. There are Android's that cost more than some iPhones. But a majority of Android phones sold ARE low end and are sold in places like China, India, and other places. THe fact you can go into a local walmart and buy an Android phone for 29.99 or get it free with Cricket/Metro/MVNO....Android (like Windows) has higher end devices but there is a reason why it has the reputation it does for being cheap. Because it is true.
I was looking on Amazon for a cheap Android for my little brother ( I thankfully talked my Dad into buying him an Iphone 8 refurb) and i was disgusted to see that there were still selling Android phones with android 10 GO.
Terrible.
Every person i have convinced to switch to iPHone has loved it and thanked me for it. My iPhone got stolen last week and I intentionally went like 4 days without using a phone because I refused to ever use An Android again lmao.
Why did APple need to join RCS when they had already created a software Like imessage. Apple isn't responsible nor should they be for catering to an android market. Google has always been open sourced, Apple has not. The fact is most android users have this apple envy and it's kind of sad lol.
If you notice whenever people discuss Android vs IOS, it's usually Android users trying to justify their choice. There is nothing on Android that i want lol.\
Now if i can get my mom onto iPHone that would be amazing. Everyday she complains about her Pixel and it sucking and everyday i tell her to just get an Iphone. I think i am just going to buy one or her and let her use it to see.
The customizations you guys brag about (the majority of the users do not care about lol). I used to work for Telephone companies. Most carriers want a device that just works (IOS) and isn't lagging out the box (Like Android does)
Everyone wants have their spec to be The Standard (it inevitably seems that there is a rainbow of competing options).
The cusp of the idea is that when people are hungry to share spaces, together, there should really be a common table.
We (luckily) have IEEE, ISO, IETF, ETSI, ANSI, IEC, etc. as wise counsel, otherwise Uncle Carl would be eating on the porch-swing, Cousin Monroe would be randomly sampling from the fridge, Sister Sally would just eat hard candy in the upstairs bedroom, and Dad would just skip dinner--in its entirety--and retire to the living room fireplace with a bottle of gin.
It's part of AAPL's responsibility--as an adult Member in this common-community--to enable seating at Our Table.
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And they did. I can easily text android users at the table. They just didnt get imessage features.
And knock off products like this aren't going to do anything but cause more drama when it inevitably gets disabled.
Knock off products like beeper and I’m sure this will eventually be disabled
Ah ok, yes I agree. Just didn't see that in the context to where you replied to.