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10/10 louis rossmann won't be accepted LOL, too much beef between him and apple
If Steve was alive, probably not; Tim Cook is more pragmatic, it's better to have him in than shouting at the sidelines - that is, if he even wants to, I expect he thinks the terms too onerous, whatever they are. For instance, Apple-certified technician on staff. What do you have to sign to become that? He won't give up what he's doing now, and it probably won't get him access to the board diagrams, it would be considered proprietary information.
I used to follow Rossman when he was just doing microsoldering repair videos; these days, he's on a crusade, so there's no reason to follow him anymore.
 
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10/10 louis rossmann won't be accepted LOL, too much beef between him and apple

According to his latest video, Rossman admits that he doesn’t meet the qualifications of the programme anyways (something about the way his laptop repair business being run apparently conflicts with the requirements).

So I guess we will never know.
 
Nowadays, people complain about anything, online; and it goes viral. If it goes viral, Apple investigates. They trace it back to a specific repair shop. Apple takes away that shop's certification. Any reputable repair shop won't take that chance. The sleazy ones will get weeded out.
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This will be great to increase the availability of parts and places where you can get your device fixed. People may prefer one over the other, but at least there is the option now. I’m curious as to the implications for “Right to Repair.”
"Right to Repair" is a hoax.

Everyone has a right to repair their products; the label given to this nonsense by its proponents, a mythical "Right to Repair," is like a lot of propaganda, intentionally misleading.

The people pushing this idea are a mix of higher tiered repair and resellers, like Louis Rossman, the garden variety shops and mall kiosks and, in my opinion (and to a lesser degree), people who can't afford or don't want to pay Apple repair prices.

Unless Rossman, et al, take the time and effort to a) become certified and b) offer repairs with parts pre-approved by Apple and on Apple's terms, they are missing out on a lucrative repair market---Apple products and customers.

This is all about $$ to 3rd party vendors, who want to make more of it, and consumers, who don't want to pay much for it and are willing to take risks on a shoddy repair because they're too cheap or can't afford it.

There is no high brow concept, like a noble sounding "right to repair," here. Just dollars and cents.
 
Apple can be underhanded to the point of abusing the legal system to silence others so I'd refrain from celebrating until fully understanding their true motive which is ultimately control and monetization of independent repairers.

 
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Insighful initial analysis of Apple Independent Repair Program.

TLDR - Very restrictive on what services can be offered and the cost of replacement parts way too high compared to other existing options so very little benefit to consumers. Even worse, the cost of screen replacement alone for an old iPhone can almost be as much as a brand new phone that has more modern tech and better support for new radio bands from competitors.

 
I am not sure why so many people are suddenly cheering this as a move forward for right to repair or trying to claim credit for it.

The way I see it, Apple is extending its repair service to third parties simply because they realise their Apple stores is no longer able to manage the increase rate of phone repairs coming their way. Which is a consequence of more people owning iPhones, as well as people holding on to them longer. Hence the need to partner with other vendors to better manage this increase in demand.

I doubt it’s really due to lawsuits or people protesting, but whatever helps them sleep better at night, I suppose.
 
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Saves AppleCare/Genius business keeping spares and refurbished replacements.
Saves Apple manufacturing/capturing spares and refurbishing replacements.
AppleCare/Genius (not part of Retail business at all) often do replacement rather than repair. Pushing more labour intensive repairs to third parties is good business… just not for third parties, unless they're doing a lot of them (if it's worth it at all).
 
Apple should just outsource their repairs to competent independent shops.

Here Apple charges $475 for a loose battery cable vs $15 tip to fix at competent independent shop.

 
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Apple should just outsource their repairs to competent independent shops.

Here Apple charges $475 for a loose battery cable vs $15 tip to fix at competent independent shop.


I paid around $60 for a 13" MBP cable at the Apple Store. Each MBP model is different.
 
You’re wrong. Certification is free.

I not only read this article, but took the time to read others as well. Too bad you didn’t do the same.

“To qualify for the new program, businesses need to have an Apple-certified technician who can perform the repairs. The process for certification is simple and free of charge —but is not an immediate process, and requires passing an exam and completion to the course material to Apple's satisfaction.”

https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...ts-and-tools-to-more-third-party-repair-shops
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well congrats you won the internet. do you really have any idea how worthless this type of apple certification is outside of being able to send stuff to apple using apple approved language and processes? no wonder it's free It's not the type of apple cert that will have you qualified to fix Macs or do any serious repair work. It's the same bogus cert that new Best Buy employees are getting so they can send stuff to apple for repair properly or replace a screen. Do you know any real apple certified techs? Talk to them about how much money they don't make off of any apple certified repair. While you're having that wonderful conversation, feel free to discuss how expensive the parts are and how many hoops you have to jump thru in order to stay compliant with apples ever changing rules. It's not a pretty scene in reality. The only thing being apple certified is good for is giving some bit of reassurance to a customer that your business isn't going to vanish overnight. Having experienced all of this first hand, i can honestly say this isn't going to mean much in the long run. Third party repair shops will quickly discover their income per device they repair will decrease due to Apple rules and cost of parts. So, good thing it is free:rolleyes:
 
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well congrats you won the internet. do you really have any idea how worthless this type of apple certification is outside of being able to send stuff to apple using apple approved language and processes? no wonder it's free It's not the type of apple cert that will have you qualified to fix Macs or do any serious repair work. It's the same bogus cert that new Best Buy employees are getting so they can send stuff to apple for repair properly or replace a screen. Do you know any real apple certified techs? Talk to them about how much money they don't make off of any apple certified repair. While you're having that wonderful conversation, feel free to discuss how expensive the parts are and how many hoops you have to jump thru in order to stay compliant with apples ever changing rules. It's not a pretty scene in reality. The only thing being apple certified is good for is giving some bit of reassurance to a customer that your business isn't going to vanish overnight. Having experienced all of this first hand, i can honestly say this isn't going to mean much in the long run. Third party repair shops will quickly discover their income per device they repair will decrease due to Apple rules and cost of parts. So, good thing it is free:rolleyes:
If you don’t want to become an Apple Certified tech, don’t—suit yourself, it’s your choice. If you do, it’s good that it’s free. Thanks Tim Apple!!
 
If you don’t want to become an Apple Certified tech, don’t—suit yourself, it’s your choice. If you do, it’s good that it’s free. Thanks Tim Apple!!
i am apple certified, thanks. just trying to illustrate that this version of the cert program mentioned in the article is not the same as being mac or ios repair level certified. the real versions are in fact not free, and require a decent amount of training before the test. usually requiring a couple thousand dollars to be invested in testing and training.
 
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