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Apple to Allow iPad Users in EU to Download Apps From Third-Party App Stores From September 16

bunty said:
I wonder what effect it would have on the EU laws relevance to Apple if Apple just sold a straight-up linux mobile phone running something like Tizen, even in their physical stores in the EU. I wonder if the EU would back off any.
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lol that’s not happening is it?
 
contacos said:
So far there is hardly any change whatsoever. No Browsers that don't use Apples engine if I am not mistaken and like 3 apps at those alternative stores.

All the privacy concerns over nothing
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Uh...you do know Software Development takes time right? Just like when apple moved from Intel to Apple Silicon, it took time for developers to make applications optimized for the new hardware.

We will have to see what happens 6-12 months after these new rules have been implemented.
 
I7guy said:
Bring windows to iPad in the eu.
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It appears that YOU could do this if you choose. Why ask that someone do it for you? The EU has made it possible for ANYONE including you to do this.

You would need to port an X86 emulator to the iPad. There are open source projects, you could join one and offer to help move it to the iPad, then with the Intel virtual machine you can load Windows.

OK, you don't understand computers or software. No one is born knowing this. You can read and study.

Do you see what I'm getting at, now that the platform is opened up anyone can do anything they want, we don't have to cry out "Somebody do this for me". People who want something can band together and do it.

Look at the Linux universe, the entire OS and almost all the apps are done this way and Linuix just might be the most common and popular OS in the world right now. (because it runs on every Android phone, set-top TV box, router and most back-end servers in Tesla cars, Starlink satellites and so on and so on...). It was all done by people who wanted something done, so they just went and did it.
 
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contacos said:
So far there is hardly any change whatsoever. No Browsers that don't use Apples engine if I am not mistaken and like 3 apps at those alternative stores.

All the privacy concerns over nothing
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Users would be wary of downloading anywhere else, App Store works really well and the CTF fee keeps devs on it. So ultimately nobody has incentive to change to somewhere else.
 
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Stromos said:
Google isn't blocking people from side loading. Google is allowing developers to block people from side loading their app. Something Apple should do as well so this new Appstore change doesn't turn into a piracy/snapchatplus fiasco.
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So the federal government (Apple) is putting the power in the hands of the states (developers), essentially?

Could the EU then come after the developers for not allowing size-loading?
 
Krizoitz said:
Translation: The rules are utterly arbitrary and this is all a thinly veiled protection racket targeting successful non-European companies.
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No, no, no. You can’t go by the letter of the law about the numbers that determine whether or not a platform is impacted. Because all those different EU languages means numbers work differently in the EU. I mean, the word “billion” in German means “trillion” in English - so obviously you can’t go by what the law says - that’d be crazy! You have to go by the spirit of the law.

And remember, the spirit of the law is “American tech companies are going to go through some things, and they better go through them with a smile.”
 
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Stromos said:
allowing developers to block people from side loading their app. Something Apple should do as well so this new Appstore change doesn't turn into a piracy/snapchatplus fiasco.
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Since Apple still reviews every single app version before it can be published by a third-party, that seems unlikely.
 
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bunty said:
I wonder what effect it would have on the EU laws relevance to Apple if Apple just sold a straight-up linux mobile phone running something like Tizen, even in their physical stores in the EU. I wonder if the EU would back off any.
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This would have the effect of Apple losing significant market share in Europe, and still not be able to control what runs on their devices.
 
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Stromos said:
Google isn't blocking people from side loading. Google is allowing developers to block people from side loading their app. Something Apple should do as well so this new Appstore change doesn't turn into a piracy/snapchatplus fiasco.
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Wait, people should have freedom to install what ever they want, why stop people from downloading apps ?
when developers want to make money, freedom is not important ?
when google/Apple want to make money then freedom is important ?
It is my device i should be able to install any app i want, don't care if it is pirated.:)
 
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ChrisA said:
It appears that YOU could do this if you choose. Why ask that someone do it for you? The EU has made it possible for ANYONE including you to do this.
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That’s not true. Apple still doesn’t allow apps to do JIT compilation, which is necessary to emulate modern Windows (or to run a third-party browser engine). (Old Windows XP does run without jitting, but only quite slowly.) Furthermore, the new policies don’t provide access to iOS internals in any way that would remotely allow to supersede it. The platform has hardly been opened up.
 
contacos said:
So far there is hardly any change whatsoever. No Browsers that don't use Apples engine if I am not mistaken and like 3 apps at those alternative stores.

All the privacy concerns over nothing
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like 3 apps at those alternative stores.

All the privacy concerns over nothing

so there are 3 app from third party stores, and you decided based on this that privacy is not a concern ?
 
bunty said:
I wonder what effect it would have on the EU laws relevance to Apple if Apple just sold a straight-up linux mobile phone running something like Tizen, even in their physical stores in the EU. I wonder if the EU would back off any.
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nope, they are just trying to make money from US tech companies.
 
ChrisA said:
It appears that YOU could do this if you choose. Why ask that someone do it for you? The EU has made it possible for ANYONE including you to do this.

You would need to port an X86 emulator to the iPad. There are open source projects, you could join one and offer to help move it to the iPad, then with the Intel virtual machine you can load Windows.

OK, you don't understand computers or software. No one is born knowing this. You can read and study.

Do you see what I'm getting at, now that the platform is opened up anyone can do anything they want, we don't have to cry out "Somebody do this for me". People who want something can band together and do it.

Look at the Linux universe, the entire OS and almost all the apps are done this way and Linuix just might be the most common and popular OS in the world right now. (because it runs on every Android phone, set-top TV box, router and most back-end servers in Tesla cars, Starlink satellites and so on and so on...). It was all done by people who wanted something done, so they just went and did it.
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No EU should force Apple, Microsoft, Linux community to make sure that each of them have an OS that can be easily installed on iPad and run with 15 hours battery life. :)
We want everything for free, we don't have time to tinker.
 
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ChrisA said:
It appears that YOU could do this if you choose. Why ask that someone do it for you? The EU has made it possible for ANYONE including you to do this.

You would need to port an X86 emulator to the iPad. There are open source projects, you could join one and offer to help move it to the iPad, then with the Intel virtual machine you can load Windows.

OK, you don't understand computers or software. No one is born knowing this. You can read and study.

Do you see what I'm getting at, now that the platform is opened up anyone can do anything they want, we don't have to cry out "Somebody do this for me". People who want something can band together and do it.

Look at the Linux universe, the entire OS and almost all the apps are done this way and Linuix just might be the most common and popular OS in the world right now. (because it runs on every Android phone, set-top TV box, router and most back-end servers in Tesla cars, Starlink satellites and so on and so on...). It was all done by people who wanted something done, so they just went and did it.
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I’m just saying maybe it could be done, but personally I am not interested. From a hacking perspective yes it’s interesting but I want my iPad to be a part of the apple ecosystem.
 
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Oddly enough I'm not very interested in apple intelligence on iPhone, but rather on macOS, where I feel it could be extremely useful!
I hope apple will find a way to meet the EU regulations, this spring.
ChatGPT arrived in the EU 3 months after the block, if I remember correctly.
 
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Big win for longevity. Now as long as you can replace your battery, you can keep browsing through third party browsers long after Apple starts withholding updates from your “obsolete” iPad. Just like having a Mac in that regard!
 
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