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[mandis]

From a designer's standpoint it is blatantly obvious that Samsung just copied Apple. There are no two ways about it.

I don't recall mentioning anything about patents in this matter. I just expressed the obvious. What are you trying to prove?

Since you don't have any evidence that Apple owns that design, you have no grounds for complaint.

Why would I need any more evidence? What I said is that it is obvious (from the pictures) that Samsung copied Apple.

 

[Oletros]

Still posting that picture of icons that are not part of the Samsung booth?

 

[mandis]

Still posting that picture of icons that are not part of the Samsung booth?

What image? How do you know? Citation please...

 

[SomeDudeAsking]

Why would I need any more evidence? What I said is that it is obvious (from the pictures) that Samsung copied Apple.

Oh, why don't you provide any evidence on who owns the store in the background in your first picture? Or will this expose your false facade?

And you fail to provide any evidence of patents for your other pictures protecting what you are being self righteous about without any legal standing. This is like claiming Apple owns the store in a store concept when Samsung and lots of other companies have done it before.

 

[Oletros]

What image? How do you know? Citation please...

The icons in the first image are from the store, a Saturn store in Italy and are not part of the Samsung boot.

Saturn sell iPhones

And the microphone on the last image has been used by Samsung in their Windows Mobile smartphones before the iPhone existed. Even was used by Google for the voice input before Apple used it.

 

[mandis]

The icons in the first image are from the store, a Saturn store in Italy and are not part of the Samsung boot.

Saturn sell iPhones

And the microphone on the last image has been used by Samsung in their Windows Mobile smartphones before the iPhone existed. Even was used by Google for the voice input before Apple used it.

Am I supposed to take your word for it? You need to provide proof...

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Oh, why don't you provide any evidence on who owns the store in the background in your first picture? Or will this expose your false facade?

And you fail to provide any evidence of patents for your other pictures protecting what you are being self righteous about without any legal standing. This is like claiming Apple owns the store in a store concept when Samsung and lots of other companies have done it before.

I will not continue your little game sorry... Personal attacks are against the rules...

 

[Radiating]

Oh, why don't you provide any evidence on who owns the store in the background in your first picture? Or will this expose your false facade?

And you fail to provide any evidence of patents for your other pictures protecting what you are being self righteous about without any legal standing. This is like claiming Apple owns the store in a store concept when Samsung and lots of other companies have done it before.

You're calling out the least relevant detail in a massive pile of evidence.

If you cannot see that the Galaxy tab 10.1 was a blatant shameless and obvious copy of the iPad down to every detail from the accessories to the packaging then you are certifiably delusional. These guys could pass the product off as a cheap Chinese knockoff.

Like I said I've seen a Galaxy Tab 10.1 in person and I use an iPad in a regular basis and thought it was an iPad.

 

[SomeDudeAsking]

You're calling out the least relevant detail in a massive pile of evidence.

If you cannot see that the Galaxy tab 10.1 was a blatant shameless and obvious copy of the iPad down to every detail from the accessories to the packaging then you are certifiably delusional. These guys could pass the product off as a cheap Chinese knockoff.

Like I said I've seen a Galaxy Tab 10.1 in person and I use an iPad in a regular basis and thought it was an iPad.

The big Samsung logos, different build materials, different size, and totally different Android OS didn't tip you off? Oh, and I don't think Apple's rounded corners on a rectangle patent is doing too well in the courts.

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I will not continue your little game sorry... Personal attacks are against the rules...

Asking you to provide legal evidence to back up your claims isn't a personal attack.

 

[Oletros]

Am I supposed to take your word for it? You need to provide proof...

You're the one claiming that those icons are from a Samsung store, you're the one that have to proof it.

By the way, I changed the name, it is Euronics in Centro Sicila mall:

Euronics Italia • 2 anni fa −
Ciao a tutti,

per completezza vi segnaliamo che tutta la parete della sezione telefonia del negozio (e lo shop in shop Samsung è solo una parte) è coperta da icone di app "multipiattaforma", che fanno da decorazione al reparto.

Svelato il mistero!

Euronics Italia

Translation:

Hello to all,

For completeness we point out that the entire wall section of the phone shop (and shop in shop Samsung is only a part) is covered with app icons "multiplatform" that decorate all the shop

http://samsung.hdblog.it/2011/09/24...ello-stesso-luogo-dellapple-store-di-catania/

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You're calling out the least relevant detail in a massive pile of evidence.

If you cannot see that the Galaxy tab 10.1 was a blatant shameless and obvious copy of the iPad down to every detail from the accessories to the packaging then you are certifiably delusional

Are you calling USA, UK, Netherlands and Germany courts certifiably delusional? Because all of them sentenced that the Galaxy Tab doesn't copy the iPad

 

[kdarling]

Why would I need any more evidence? What I said is that it is obvious (from the pictures) that Samsung copied Apple.

It's simply that you're a couple of years late, and using a set of pictures that have been disregarded for a while now.

• The wall app icons were quickly determined to be part of the overall store, not the Samsung section. See comments from Euronics in this article:
  
  "All the wall of the Smartphone section in the store is covered by APP icon (Android and iOS) as decoration. The Samsung "shop in shop" is just a part of that and it's located in front of the same wall. So it's not another chapter of "Samsung vs Apple Affaire", it was only a choice of style in the decoration of an entire wall."

• The power and data plugs in person look very different than the angles in the photos. Not least because Samsung's included a prominent finger ridge for pulling that the Apple parts do not have.

• As noted, the microphone was used by Windows Mobile before Apple did.

• And the style of packaging with the device right under the lid was done first by LG for their touch Prada phone.

If you want to claim copying, there are better examples. (And no, the other oft-repeated photo of icons isn't one.)

Cheers.

 

[mandis]

I stand by what I said earlier about Samsung copying Apple in terms of design. Even if we discredit all previous images it is pretty obvious in my eyes.

If you want to claim copying, there are better examples. (And no, the other oft-repeated photo of icons isn't one.)

Cheers.

I would really like to know what these examples are.

Thanks

 

[SomeDudeAsking]

I stand by what I said earlier about Samsung copying Apple in terms of design. Even if we discredit all previous images it is pretty obvious in my eyes.

So we discredit all your images and yet you think it is "pretty obvious" even though you don't even have any evidence.

 

[roxxette]

I stand by what I said earlier about Samsung copying Apple in terms of design. Even if we discredit all previous images it is pretty obvious in my eyes.



I would really like to know what these examples are.

Thanks

Seems to me you have eyes only for apple ? And thats why everything in your eyes is a copy of what apple have done....

The forum demands to show proof to backup your claims in regards what you assume was a copy, if you cant just apologize and no the proof is not your eyes or old pictures placed in a way to make people think.

 

[mandis]

So we discredit all your images and yet you think it is "pretty obvious" even though you don't even have any evidence.

Who's WE? And what exactly did YOU discredit?

Of course I don't need any further evidence cause from the very beginning I was describing what seems obvious to me.

Seems to me you have eyes only for apple ? And thats why everything in your eyes is a copy of what apple have done....

Not at all

The forum demands to show proof to backup your claims in regards what you assume was a copy, if you cant just apologize and no the proof is not your eyes or old pictures placed in a way to make people think.

And what did I claim exactly?

 

[roxxette]

Who's WE? And what exactly did YOU discredit?

Of course I don't need any further evidence cause from the very beginning I was describing what seems obvious to me.



Not at all



And what did I claim exactly?

You keep saying Samsung copy apple in regards of accesorys and the galaxy tab

Or did you forget that ?

 

[mandis]

You keep saying Samsung copy apple in regards of accesorys and the galaxy tab

Or did you forget that ?

Here's what I said:

"From a designer's standpoint it is blatantly obvious that Samsung just copied Apple."

I'm a designer and I stand by my statement. Can you convince me otherwise?

 

[roxxette]

Here's what I said:

"From a designer's standpoint it is blatantly obvious that Samsung just copied Apple."

I'm a designer and I stand by my statement. Can you convince me otherwise?

If you cant backup your statement keep it to yourself, thats why a lot of people go around spreeding fud; i cant convince someone that is blind

Again show sproof that from "a designer standpoint" samsung copy apple.

 

[mandis]

If you cant backup your statement keep it to yourself, thats why a lot of people go around spreeding fud; i cant convince someone that is blind

Again show sproof that from "a designer standpoint" samsung copy apple.

That's just a lame excuse. You cannot prevent people from voicing their opinions. This is a public forum.

 

[roxxette]

That's just a lame excuse. You cannot prevent people from voicing their opinions. This is a public forum.

Yeah i think you are the one coming with a lame excuse you just want to bash samsung and accuse with no real base.

I understand some people dont just like apple products, they love and worship the brand.

Have a good rest of the weekend.

 

[mandis]

Yeah i think you are the one coming with a lame excuse you just want to bash samsung and accuse with no real base.

I understand some people dont just like apple products, they love and worship the brand.

Have a good rest of the weekend.

I think you're just jumping into conclusions and seem to have a problem when other people's opinions contradict your own. The only Apple product I actually own is the one on my signature... yet you seem to think I'm an Apple fanatic. Strange...

 

[roxxette]

I think you're just jumping into conclusions and seem to have a problem when other people's opinions contradict your own. The only Apple product I actually own is the one on my signature... yet you seem to think I'm an Apple fanatic. Strange...

Thats the problem its not my opinion is a proven fact !

Only a apple fanatic will make the claims you have or you just dont know better and if thats the case educate yourself; weird how you pulled those pictures since you are not a apple fanatic i would have think you knew the real story behind those.....

Bye bye !

 

[ScottishCaptain]

I think it's beyond ****ing hilarious how you're all sitting around bitching and complaining and whining about Samsung, Apple, and patents in general...

When the real story is how Apple can lose a patent lawsuit, and forcibly make changes to their devices that carry real world implications for people who use this stuff professionally. If you think a company can just mandate that everyone stay at iOS 6.0.x, then you're out of your mind- especially when new iOS devices ship with the most recent firmware.

But hey, don't let me interrupt your mindless squabble. Samsung obviously copied Apple! Apple didn't deserve to be sued by a patent troll! Long live Steve Jobs!

-SC

 

[mandis]

Thats the problem its not my opinion is a proven fact !

Only a apple fanatic will make the claims you have or you just dont know better and if thats the case educate yourself; weird how you pulled those pictures since you are not a apple fanatic i would have think you knew the real story behind those.....

Bye bye !

What proven fact? The galaxy tab looked just like an ipad and there is no denying that. Same goes for the usb charger and cable. We have all seen the dozens of other tablet and accessory designs that exist out there (Asus, Archos, etc) and those looked entirely different. Samsung deliberately chose to copy Apple. Denying the blatantly obvious is what makes one a fanatic.

 

[kdarling]

What proven fact? The galaxy tab looked just like an ipad and there is no denying that.

That was Apple's complaint, and one German court early on agreed.

Samsung then added thin speakers to the front. Since then, no court or jury has found infringement.

Same goes for the usb charger and cable. We have all seen the dozens of other tablet and accessory designs that exist out there (Asus, Archos, etc) and those looked entirely different. Samsung deliberately chose to copy Apple.

Apple has never complained about Samsung's charger or connector. Probably because they don't look exactly the same. Plus no one on the planet buys a tablet based on the charger or connector shape.

Denying the blatantly obvious is what makes one a fanatic.

Or perhaps worrying about it is what makes one a fanatic. All over plastic and glass and metal. We must all be nuts.

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[mandis]

That was Apple's complaint, and one German court early on agreed.

Samsung then added thin speakers to the front. Since then, no court or jury has found infringement.

So they recalled all sold tablets and added speakers to them?

Apple has never complained about Samsung's charger or connector. Probably because they don't look exactly the same. Plus no one on the planet buys a tablet based on the charger or connector shape.

Copying an original design partially or in it's entirety is still copying.

Or perhaps worrying about it is what makes one a fanatic.

I'm not worried at all actually. I just don't like it when people try to force their opinions on me. It would be unhealthy if I did...

But then, that's the curse of the male dominated internet, is it not? Worry and competition. *grin*.

What I've witnessed in this forum are the common teenage behavioral patterns. Nothing to do with testosterone I'm afraid.