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My bet for sure is that we will have MacBooks, Macbook Pros and iPads at WWDC. For 99.9% sure. If my interpretation of this image:
WWDC-2017-website.jpg


We can see in the image people with books (perhaps some big announcements in the iBook department), but also you can see people with MacBooks (or Macbook Pros, or both) and iPads.

So my conclusion is that there will be hardware of both devices at WWDC this year.
 
My bet for sure is that we will have MacBooks, Macbook Pros and iPads at WWDC. For 99.9% sure. If my interpretation of this image:
WWDC-2017-website.jpg


We can see in the image people with books (perhaps some big announcements in the iBook department), but also you can see people with MacBooks (or Macbook Pros, or both) and iPads.

So my conclusion is that there will be hardware of both devices at WWDC this year.
Good catch!!!
 
If that’s true, then it’s time to say: “Goodbye Apple. It’s been a great 40 years, but it’s time I take my leave for greener pastures with more ports and expandability”.

Alright, I haven’t actually been buying Macs for 40 years. I’ve actually only bought one Mac, my current one, back in 2011. But I’m tired of Apple removing functionality these past 4+ years. I want to be able to add storage and RAM. I also want to be able to plug something in without always needing an adapter.


Goodbye Mac OS X, and hello Linux!

It's a tempting thought. I like Linux. The kernel is the best thing in CIS these days. If you want to spin up Debian and CentOS, they're great. But that's backroom stuff.

Sadly I've been down that road of trying to make Linux a substitute daily host OS. There are definitely good PC alternatives to run Linux if you don't want to get a Mac. Personally I think the XPS has knocked it out of the park as a Linux development machine.

But the gamechanger Linux desktop UX remains vaporware. Partially it's the philosophy of GNU. Every person who is intent on getting Gnome and Wayland to work in a modern, efficient way, has the same vote as the numerous people how don't intend to use anything fancier than Openbox and Midnight Commander. And also the same group of people who want to split off with their own money and time and rather than get Gnome up to date, they'll take those libraries and work on their own buggy implementation of Gnome in the latest ripoff off MacOS UX in numerous crashy, inefficient implementations. (They know who they are…)

I run Mint Cinnamon on an old laptop, and may need to boot a PC into it, soon, to make use of various Linux usabilities. It's not at all my favorite UX, but it's the one that works the most consistently with what I need to have it do. That's what Linux life is like, unfortunately.

The bottom line is that there are Mac people who have used Macs for 40 years. Apple has jerked their customers around quite a bit. But if you're one person who has happily been doing word processing, email, and Photoshop on a Mac since the 90s, Apple has, however inconsistently, still managed to provide you with a path to upgrade your system every few years.

I'm typing this on a 13" MBP with a touchbar right now. There's nothing wrong with this keyboard. I find it is actually easier to type on without typos as you get used to it. There has been UX research into this layout, and while not everyone will like it, arguably it is objectively an improvement on the previous keyboards. Yes, there are some people who will never want anything more than Midnight Commander. For the rest of us, things move on.

This machine I'm holding now costs at least $200-300 more retail than an equivalent XPS or X1 Carbon. And "equivalent" being a fudge factor since it's not the newest generation chip in here. All things being equivalent, that's not that much money for a professional level machine. Yes, the dongle factor also adds to it, but it's not the end of the world. All machines will be USB-C soon, so it's inevitable.

I'd like to see Apple have newer generations of chips. But there is other engineering under the hood here. I have pushed this machine, and it really stays peppy without getting too hot or the fan roaring, which is more than I can say for the PC laptops I've worked with, lately, even if they are i7 chips and this is a wee i5 of a previous generation. There is more engineering here than pure model numbers and specs. This is the finesse of an F1 race care to take curves and go for the long run, it's not a drag race on a flat track.

I'm wholeheartedly with the people who want more from Apple. Especially more desktop/power solutions, especially in a world in which production of 3-D content is going matter quite a bit. i want to see more bang for the buck and more respect to the creatives and not just the consumers of content. It's the creatives who were the  base who gave Apple its reputation and kept it afloat through the middling Quadra years.

That being said, Apple isn't being clueless or thoughtless in what they're doing here. Not by a long shot. There is serious quality in these machines.
 

Wow, never thought I would see apple pro computers described like this. Specs "fine" for "most" tasks? Remember when apple actually had the best hardware? Seems times have sure changed.

I don't remember that. Aside from a very few Mac models that early adopted some newer Intel architectures, PCs have consistently won the drag-race specs, as well as the choices for expandability and upgradeability.

Apple has always, since I was in short pants, insisted that they're about customizing the software for the hardware, rather than whether you could put truck nutz on their Mhz specs.
 
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Wow, never thought I would see apple pro computers described like this. Specs "fine" for "most" tasks? Remember when apple actually had the best hardware? Seems times have sure changed.

Dont remember that at all, I remember Apple always being behind and overpriced on hardware. Granted I haven't being around since some of the really hardcore guys.
 
I still just don't get the fascination with touch screens on a laptop. Touchscreens serve a purpose and solve a problem on small mobile devices that just isn't there or needs fixing on a desktop or even a laptop. All that would be good for would RSI.
Touch screens are absolutely amazing when two people are working on one laptop. When I ask someone for help, they can easily touch my screen to operate my laptop without having to sit in my seat. We have touch screens at work and I see people assisting each other like this all the time. Nothing is more awkward than trying to drive someones laptop when it's sitting on their lap ;)
 
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Touch screens are absolutely amazing when two people are working on one laptop. When I ask someone for help, they can easily touch my screen to operate my laptop without having to sit in my seat. We have touch screens at work and I see people assisting each other like this all the time. Nothing is more awkward than trying to drive someones laptop when it's sitting on their lap ;)

Seriously? How hard is it to put the laptop on a desk and slide it over a little bit? Because touching your laptop screen while its on your lap is any less awkward?
 
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It's a tempting thought. I like Linux. The kernel is the best thing in CIS these days. If you want to spin up Debian and CentOS, they're great. But that's backroom stuff.

Sadly I've been down that road of trying to make Linux a substitute daily host OS. There are definitely good PC alternatives to run Linux if you don't want to get a Mac. Personally I think the XPS has knocked it out of the park as a Linux development machine.

But the gamechanger Linux desktop UX remains vaporware. Partially it's the philosophy of GNU. Every person who is intent on getting Gnome and Wayland to work in a modern, efficient way, has the same vote as the numerous people how don't intend to use anything fancier than Openbox and Midnight Commander. And also the same group of people who want to split off with their own money and time and rather than get Gnome up to date, they'll take those libraries and work on their own buggy implementation of Gnome in the latest ripoff off MacOS UX in numerous crashy, inefficient implementations. (They know who they are…)
Interesting take that you have on Linux as a desktop system - I definitely agree that it is most efficient and cost-effective for "backroom stuff", that is, for servers, as well as for low level device operations and control of routers, switches, and so forth. I have to disagree, at least somewhat, with your criticism of the Linux user interface and as a desktop workhorse. GNU has its strengths and its weaknesses, as open/free software development will always have less focus organizationally than will proprietary offerings from Apple or Microsoft, but at the same time, its very openess to developers and development lends to a creativity and internal competition, which can bring out some fine software. I've been using Linux for laptops the last ten years, and have narrowed down my "distros" to a few which offer overall stability and support, as well as innovation for UI as well as in efficiency as an OS in the background. Some distros suffer in that regard, being somewhat experimental and lacking in continuity of development. My primary qualification I would have in recommending it as an everyday desktop alternative for most Apple/Microsoft users would be that they need to actually enjoy tinkering with their software and OS settings to some degree. If your primary use of a computer is as an easy-to-use tool for specific applications, as per the creative arts (for example), it is probably worth your while to spend more money on proprietary equipment and OS support (Apple/Microsoft). I spent a 35 year career in computers and networking systems, from using Unix and proprietary systems on DEC, CDC, Cray, and IBM mainframes, supers, and minies, to focusing on Microsoft file and Exchange servers the last 10 years before I retired. I have focused on PC laptops the last 10 years or so as being better bang-per-buck options on the laptop platform when wedded with Linux. I also enjoy tinkering to some degree, and Linux gives me the freedom to do that for not too much of a cost financially. I would never encourage my wife and some of my less technically inclined friends to switch to Linux from Apple or Microsoft. The learning curve would be too steep for their computer needs. But if you don't mind experimenting with the many Linux desktop flavors now available, don't mind playing around with EFI/Bios adjustments occasionally in order to keep your systems smoothly running and up-to-snuff, Linux is a great choice - both for reasonable hardware costs and for the next to no cost for OS and application software. The Dell XPS-13, which I purchased rather than the latest MBP about 6 months ago, came pre-installed with Ubuntu, and I added Manjaro and Kali as alternative boots to that little powerful box. It's fun and effecient as a performer, with 512 GB SSD, 16 GB memory, and Kaby Lake processor, all for less than $2000. I don't regret the purchase at all, but am glad I have my old MBP 1,1, now running Linux Mint and OSX Snow Leopard - just feeling that it is awesome how wonderful that old laptop has been the last 11 years. I hope I can upgrade my iMac later this year, as my wife will contiinue to be pleased at that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to computing and computers. Enjoyed your post.
 
since you've been a member here, the hardware announced at WWDC has been:

2009 -- new 13" MBP, 15 & 17" updates.. iPhone 3Gs
2010 -- iPhone 4
2012 -- MBA, MBP, and new retina MBP
2013 -- Mac Pro, Time Capsule, Airport Extreme, and MacBook Air

fwiw

Good to know... in 4 years I forgot about this. Well, WWDC 2017 is approaching fast. I'm wishing for a new iMac or MacBook Pro with REAL hardware.
 
We do not have the disaggregate data of the recent mac sales.
We do not know, and probably never will, how many:
- new 2016 rMBP,
- new 2016 non TB base 15" rMBP (essentially a 2015 rMBP),
- refurbished 2015.
were sold.

There is a single source that reports that as soon as 2016 rMBP was presented Apple had an incredibile and totally unexpected spike of 2015 rMBP sales...

If that was true, the 2016 rMBP is a spectacular faliure.

If Apple really redesign the rMBP, as some analysts think, it will be a confirmation of the alleged faliure...

If nothing else, hopefully they will redesign the battery and bring it back up the 99.5 watt capabilities of the previous years models.
To me, the reduction in battery was the single most obvious signal that the 2016 model was an exercise of form over function. If they had really cared about function, they would have made it 1mm thicker and upped battery capability.
 
The Macbook Air is dead. Its not coming back, there is no reason with the 12" Macbook and the 13" Macbook Pro both being smaller than it.

Unlikely to cancel a product that is still popular. Bottom line: people value PORTS and the air has just the right combination of marginally adequate performance and screen with the convenience of an SD reader, USBs that don't need adapters to work with 98% of the devices out in the real world, and thunderbolt for external monitors and fast drives. Having to carry a separate gizmo to achieve all of that makes the new MB pros less attractive for many people. So what if they look streamlined and slim if you then have to carry a dock with you to function?
 
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Unlikely to cancel a product that is still popular. Bottom line: people value PORTS and the air has just the right combination of marginally adequate performance and screen with the convenience of an SD reader, USBs that don't need adapters to work with 98% of the devices out in the real world, and thunderbolt for external monitors and fast drives. Having to carry a separate gizmo to achieve all of that makes the new MB pros less attractive for many people. So what if they look streamlined and slim if you then have to carry a dock with you to function?
I think it is probably the price more than anything else keeping the MacBook Air popular.

Apple definitely wants to push USB-C. The adapters are pretty small and are a one-time purchase.
 
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Get one that's certified by Apple and there's no worries. If it somehow fries your laptop, Apple will be on the hook the with the manufacturer to make sure everything gets worked out. Besides, I would be astounded if any USB-C accessory like that could break a laptop. Over-voltage or anything like that would likely fry the charger or the plug first, assuming they are certified by Apple. The only possible failure point I can see would be the physical pin assembly inside the port, which is at risk for any USB-C plug and would probably also be covered under Apple's warranty if it breaks.

Being "Apple Certified" doesn't mean that Apple covers repairs caused by manufacturing defects in third party accessories. All it really means is that it follows the official spec and has been verified to do so by Apple. Even if they show Apple a product that's well designed, it's not like Apple is going to inspect every single one they make and the manufacturers can thus easily cut corners on the ones they actually sell to the public. Also, let's not for one moment forget that stores like Amazon regularly sell products with fake certifications.

Regular old USB obviously isn't much of a danger for the simple reason that it doesn't carry that much power. The highest you could do was 5V at 1.5A, or a 7.5W total meaning that in case of a failure the transformer will blow up well before there's any serious risk of sending a current that can actually damage the machine. With USB type C however the maximum is 20V at 5A, or a 100W total, meaning that USB type C chargers can definitely can send a current high enough to damage the machine before the transformer puts a stop to this by blowing up.
 
Being "Apple Certified" doesn't mean that Apple covers repairs caused by manufacturing defects in third party accessories. All it really means is that it follows the official spec and has been verified to do so by Apple. Even if they show Apple a product that's well designed, it's not like Apple is going to inspect every single one they make and the manufacturers can thus easily cut corners on the ones they actually sell to the public. Also, let's not for one moment forget that stores like Amazon regularly sell products with fake certifications.

Regular old USB obviously isn't much of a danger for the simple reason that it doesn't carry that much power. The highest you could do was 5V at 1.5A, or a 7.5W total meaning that in case of a failure the transformer will blow up well before there's any serious risk of sending a current that can actually damage the machine. With USB type C however the maximum is 20V at 5A, or a 100W total, meaning that USB type C chargers can definitely can send a current high enough to damage the machine before the transformer puts a stop to this by blowing up.
I think you should go look at some of these things. They're not chargers, they're cables. You'd be at no more risk of an over voltage or over current event with one of those than you'd be if you were using the cable that shipped in the box. Any issues would be with the charger or the laptop, and both would be covered by Apple.

All MFi does is reassure you that the cable isn't going to melt. Again, I'd be stunned if one of these things managed to do any damage to a laptop aside from possibly breaking the little tab inside the USB-C port. But any USB-C cable could potentially do that, meaning you'd have as good a chance getting Apple to fix that as you would if it was their cable that did it.

And in the mean time, you'd have mag-safe functionality to help prevent that from happening.
 
Seriously? How hard is it to put the laptop on a desk and slide it over a little bit? Because touching your laptop screen while its on your lap is any less awkward?
About as hard as it is to get your phone out of your pocket when you can read your messages on your watch I guess. Additionally, we use docking stations so it is kind of a PIA to slide laptops around. And the lap thing was just a joke...but it's definitely more awkward to work the keyboard :p
 
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Touch screens are absolutely amazing when two people are working on one laptop. When I ask someone for help, they can easily touch my screen to operate my laptop without having to sit in my seat. We have touch screens at work and I see people assisting each other like this all the time. Nothing is more awkward than trying to drive someones laptop when it's sitting on their lap ;)

Firstly, two people working on a laptop is presumably much less common than one person working on a laptop.

Secondly, isn't it easier to just turn a laptop around a little on a desk, than have someone need to actually sit in your seat?

I guess mileage's vary...
 
The battery improvements of Kaby Lake are due to better hardware video decoding capabilities. For example, as a basic requirement for Netflix Ultra HD 4K you need Kaby Lake. You might be able to muscle it with software decoding on non-Kaby Lake but it'll heat up your device and burn through the battery. Only reason Apple equipped the newest Macbooks with last gen Skylake because it's cheaper to buy so more profitable.

Simply not true. Apple doesn't just use any Intel CPU. They only use the high end variants that have several extra features not available on the other variants. Take a look at the advanced technologies here to see what the CPUs Apple uses feature: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/core-vpro/i7-6820hq.html. They do not use non vPro CPUs. The Kaby Lake equivalents of the Skylake chips they used were simply not ready for the 2016 launch. Apple did not want to wait any longer. This is Intel's fault. The chips finally arrived in January/February and Dell and the others immediately offered them but Apple doesn't refresh their machines every other month like Windows manufacturers do.
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How about removing the touchbar and reducing the cost by $300

$300 is really nothing if you are a professional. It's the same thing with software. If you're a professional investing in the Adobe suite, Pro Tools, AutoCAD should not be of any concern. It's the cost of business. If you're a student then it's a different story. If $300 makes something unaffordable, then you simply can't afford it.
 
SWEET! I was going to buy a Macbook Touch Bar but I'll wait.


Hopefully this comes with a Intel CoffeeLake upgrade with 15-20% more performance and 1-2 hours more battery life.


Macbook Pro with a 12 hour battery life? Yes Please :)
 
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