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I don't see Apple going with a non exponential resolution. All old apps would be blurry. I think they will wait until the iPad 3 to up the resolution, and make it twice that of the existing one.

especially seeing what a bad job they did with the 2x resolution increase from iPhone apps on the iPad - still don't get how they could screw that up such big times - even apps that use text controls look horrible.
 
Apple will NOT release the next gen in less than twelve months of the original. It's commercial suicide, completely out of pattern for Apple. Is Kevin Rose ever right? I've yet to see a decent prediction come true that came from him first...

Who said they release it early february? They announce it - big difference. Than the developers have a month or two to update their apps and by the time the iPad is released you have thousands of apps supporting the new features.
 
Corporate intelligence gathering within Apple

While a lot of people wait, discuss and hang on every "Mac Rumor" that floats around, Apple has a corporate intelligence staff that analyzes other companies future products. Be 100% assured Apple knew what Motorola Mobility Inc., Toshiba Corp. and Dell Inc. were going to do with their announced but yet-to-be-sold tablets. The iPad has been modified to it is better that the competition and a 2/3 announcement will steal any thunder they hoped to get when the products go on sale.
 
There is a large catalog of apps already coded for 1024 X 768, and will look like poop when they are interpolated up. Also, interpolation would reduce battery, to what amount I don't know but I would think it would be more than insignificant.

One of the best things about iOS is the small amount of fragmentation, and this would add it and hamper future jumps of resolution in the future.

Just make the default behavior for older iPad apps to display at 1024 x 768 and a black border around them.

If the iPad 2/iPad hd - is announced early Feb., and released early march, that's more than enough time for apps to be updated.
 
I hope it will have HD video, but somehow Apple is quite able to disappoint.

iMovie + HD video camera + HD video editing + iPad = consumer win.

You rally want to use the iPad to shoot HD video??? I think the form factor would be horrible. You probably couldn't hold it steady enough, wired form to hold up and shoot videos, probably have to hold it with two hands to shoot decent video, .... just not practicable. Just imagine how funny it looks people holding up the ipads with two hands shooting video.
 
Ipad2 Retina

Cannot see the iphone4 Retina display making it to the ipad 2.
All them pixels will be a monster drain on battery in a screen so large.
Heres hoping though.
Apple please prove me wrong.:D
 
I know it is very unlikely to have retina display on iPad, but if Apple can make it, I'll buy it most happily.

Nothing is impossible :)
 
While a lot of people wait, discuss and hang on every "Mac Rumor" that floats around, Apple has a corporate intelligence staff that analyzes other companies future products. Be 100% assured Apple knew what Motorola Mobility Inc., Toshiba Corp. and Dell Inc. were going to do with their announced but yet-to-be-sold tablets. The iPad has been modified to it is better that the competition and a 2/3 announcement will steal any thunder they hoped to get when the products go on sale.

If Apple would be that kind of follower they wouldn't be where they are (iPod/iPhone/iPad).

Does anybody remember the early prototype of the Android? Looked like a clone of the BlackBerry. Only after Apple showed off its iPhone it started looking like an iPhone. Apple leads, other follow. That is why their stock keeps shooting up and why they make so much money.
 
But that is the point! IT IS STRETCHED! Apple chose to use the extra pixels to increase the density while maintaining the same visual dimensions of UI elements and therefore everything is stretched unless made a higher resolution to fit the screen with the 4x pixel depth! So if you understand what I am saying you'd see I am right! You are also correct in saying what you are saying, but it is not implemented that way on the iPhone so it is not true in the case of the Retina Display!

In a way you are correct, but to make things clear, I want to make sure I understand. Do you mean that because iP4 renders the UI controls to match the higher resolution, the accompanying lower-resolution images that are native for older iPhones hence look worse? Because, in a way that is true. Nice crisp clear controls next to a not-so-clear image makes the image look worse, but it's no worse than it was on an older iPhone. I think if you have a 320x480 image on a iPhone4 and you view it as it is, without any controls to compare to, it essentially looks the same as on a 3GS. With only the exception that as one pixel is stretched to fit on 4 pixels that take the same area as the older displays one pixel, you could theoretically see the pixel borders between the 4 pixels, hence making the image look worse.

Anyway, back to iPad talk. As it's been said before, anything else than doubling the resolution would be difficult to do. As we've seen with iPhone apps stretched on the iPad, as it's more than double the original resolution, and not the same as iPhone4 resolution, it doesn't look good.

So to make the transition easy, the new resolution would have to be 2048*1536. Not going to happen anytime soon, with these processors. Something along the lines of 1280*960 would be plausible, especially it would be good for 720p HD videos. But lot's of work for developers and it wouldn't fit with Apple's philosophy of keeping things simple.
 
Apple will NOT release the next gen in less than twelve months of the original. It's commercial suicide, completely out of pattern for Apple. Is Kevin Rose ever right? I've yet to see a decent prediction come true that came from him first...

I agree.

But it is hard to fight wishful thinking with reason. A whole bunch of people will insist that the next iPad just has to be super duper compared to the first one, despite a long history of this NOT happening from Apple.

So they are manifesting dreams of multi cores, and higher resolution than their desktop, for a product that has barely finished rolling our around the world, and when Apple ships a mildy tweaked iPad 2, they will get angry and call Steve Jobs a poopy head because he didn't build the iPad of their dreams. :rolleyes:
 
I will buy it either way. Retina display is a nice marketing phrase, but does not mean too much.

Yup. It doesn't have to be 300 ppi, as long as it's enough for a given distance from your eyes. People probably don't look at their iPads as closely as their iPhones, but I don't think it's that much further away. So even if 2560*1920 is not needed, the pixel quadrupled 2048*1536 would be probably more than enough to call Retina. It's up to Apple what they call it, anyway.
 
aapl making great progress with verizon and ipad2 - however its funny they cannot get a grip on something simple as a white iphone - go aapl
 
If the only features mentioned are the display and cameras, I wonder if that means we will not see a dual core iPad. Seems silly to me not to offer a dual core version.

What would you need a dual core iPad for when a single core is more than enough to handle things? Android tablets will be dual core because... you guessed it... Android needs dual core to run decently. Not iOS.

Then you should also remember that they were not available until a few months later. It was announced early because it was a new product and developers needed time to create new ipad apps. That is no longer the case with the iPad2.

Expect an announcement no earlier than march.

GL

I completely disagree. With so much competition from Android in tablets and phones, Apple must speed up its refresh cycle or it will not be able to compete on hardware features. I would not be at all surprised if we see a a few announcements between now and the first week of February regarding iPhone and iPad. Apple MUST do this given how much the market has changed in the last year.
 
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What about a CDMA iPad for Verizon network? Theyre changing the iphone to accomodate it to the network, why not give them a new ipad to run on their network? Regular iPads cant get their internet, that would fit the bill...
 
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HANG ON...

I just did the math and a 2560x1920 res screen gives you 333 dpi. True, that's near the range of the iPhone's resolution, but don't forget that Steve said that the magic threshold for indistinguishable pixels is somewhere near 300dpi, IF you are holding the screen 1 foot away from the face.

Let's say that the iPad, instead of getting an upgrade to 2560x1920, was just pixel doubled on both dimensions. That would be a resolution of 2048x1536 (just multiply 1024x768 by 2 to get that).

A screen with 2048x1536 yields a ppi of 264. Considering a phone is held closer to the face than a tablet, Apple marketing could fudge the "retina threshold" to a lower number since a tablet is typically around, let's say, 1.5 feet from the face. Thus a ppi of 264 is perfectly reasonable to deem "retina display" and it solves the development problem of upgrading existing app assets by cleanly doubling the resolution required for graphics.

I'm not saying Rose is right, but it very well could be possible to have a "retina" display on the next iPad.
 
I completely disagree. With so much competition from Android in tablets and phones, Apple must speed up its refresh cycle or it will not be able to compete on hardware features. I would not be at all surprised if we see a a few announcements between now and the first week of February regarding iPhone and iPad. Apple MUST do this given how much the market has changed in the last year.

No. Apple must not play catch up. Competition just started copying the ideas from the first generation iPad and last generation iPhone. Most 'competing' tables are still announced only. Apple won't release new features until they are ready and Jobs is happy with them. Apple never rushed anything out. Thats one thing I love about Apple - they rather have less features but those working well. What is the point of having tons of features and impressive 'spec' if things dont work well together.
 
iPhones, iPads, iPhones, iPhones, iPads…

What happened to OS X and Mac desktops? Oh, Apple released the Mac App Store, based on the, um, iOS App Store.

The last event was pretty much dedicated solely to the Mac. You got a new MacBook Air, a Mac App Store, a preview of 10.7 and a new iLife suite. Jobs had already promised a new version of Final Cut Pro, notebook and desktop updates are imminent and Apple's Web site can't stop promoting iWork '11 which will surely be out soon.

Yet, you're still bitching. This is the most Mac activity we've had in years.
 
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