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to you. I've read from parents of small children that they enjoy the RD collection since it saved their photos from accidental deletions.

Ye I like recently deleted. Once we have camera roll back (seriously, who thought getting rid of that was a good idea?) we should rarely see the deleted photos option unless we need it.
 
As I've stated before there are many other sources that stated this...

and the majority of the population of earth doesn't read any of them. it was not something normal people hear about on the nightly news or late night shows like the fact new iphones were coming out.
 
BS! Camera roll has ALL your photos. NOT just recently added. Not everyone wants to go through sub folders to find photos. Camera Roll=All in one spot. They really should get rid of "recently deleted" as well. Makes no sense.

not to mention it's not broken up in chunks based on date/or location. camera roll is completley different than the photos app currently on ios 8
 
Apple to Bring Back Camera Roll in iOS 8.1

Am I the only one that was happy Camera Roll went away?



When I first got my iPhone and my photo library was manageable, I had my MBP's iPhoto library synced to my iPhone. So if I took a picture, it was in Camera Roll, Photo Stream, and iPhoto Album... three copies on my iPhone.



I've done a clean install of iOS 8.0.2, so maybe I don't have enough photos to impact me as much, but I like having my Photos and then a spot for those Recently Added.
 
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Thank you Apple!
anyone else feel your pics are easier to manage and locate in camera roll? Especially as a photographer who often uses editing programs and Instagram, etc... I just didn't like that it only showed recents and that I had to scroll through dates to find the picture I wanted.
 
I wonder if anyone at Apple actually feared for their life at the reaction to being stupid and getting rid of the Camera Roll. They should have been. :)

Nah, it'll have been signed off on and probably nobody thought much of it until people got their hands on iOS and started whining and moaning. Then some higher up probably told the relevant people to put it back the way it was. That's how it goes in big companies.

Am I the only one that was happy Camera Roll went away?

I'm in the 'don't really care' camp. Apparently it made it difficult for those who use iPhoto or Aperture, though - those complaints I actually understand.
 
I'm in the 'don't really care' camp. Apparently it made it difficult for those who use iPhoto or Aperture, though - those complaints I actually understand.

I think to me I might not care, now that I think about it. I use iPhoto but, it just seemed easier with how iOS 8 is. I just don't get wanting to go to Camera Roll instead of just going to Photos. To me it's just what the folder is called, unless I'm missing something?
 
Ye I like recently deleted. Once we have camera roll back (seriously, who thought getting rid of that was a good idea?) we should rarely see the deleted photos option unless we need it.

I loved not having camera roll. Only had to delete photos from one place. Losing camera roll was actually my favorite change in iOS 8 apart from Apple pay.
 
I loved not having camera roll. Only had to delete photos from one place. Losing camera roll was actually my favorite change in iOS 8 apart from Apple pay.
One place as opposed to what other places?
 
One place as opposed to what other places?

For me, if I wanted to get rid of a picture that's been on my phone for maybe over an hour, I'd have to delete it from Camera Roll, Photo Stream, then go back to my Mac and delete it from iPhoto. Hassle.
 
What they need to add is the ability to delete a photo from an album and also delete it from the phone. I hate browsing an album, finding a photo I no longer want and trying to delete it only removes it from the album. Then I have to scroll through thousands of photos to find it again and delete it. How is this not an option yet alongside "delete from album"?
 
I loved not having camera roll. Only had to delete photos from one place. Losing camera roll was actually my favorite change in iOS 8 apart from Apple pay.

Having camera roll back would make no difference for that. Its just another view option that the majority of people seem to prefer.

If anything iOS8 means you have to delete photos twice to fully eradicate them (vs just once once for iOS7) now we have recently deleted so I'm really not sure what your talking about.
 
Having camera roll back would make no difference for that. Its just another view option that the majority of people seem to prefer.

If anything iOS8 means you have to delete photos twice to fully eradicate them (vs just once once for iOS7) now we have recently deleted so I'm really not sure what your talking about.

If you had Photo Stream turned on (not sure it was an option), you'd have to delete it from Photo Stream as well as your iPhone (library, Camera Roll, whatever you want to call it).
 
Or, you can create your own albums, name them and drag the photos you want into them. You could also create folders into which you could drag albums.

You could search photos by date, etc as well if you wished.

One permanent album would be "Cloud" and the ones you drag into that are in the cloud and out when you drag them out. They would always remain in whatever other folder you put them in as well, unless deleted of course.

This is how it should work in all Apple photo programs on all of their devices.

It is probably just me, but I always have problems figuring out Apple's various photo organizational schemes.
 
The even better news is the camera roll is on your phone, right now. All they did was change the name. Works exactly the same.

Thats wrong.

So is the Original Article when it says:

"Camera Roll allowed users to have easy access to their recently added photos without having to go into a photo"


The camera Roll showed ALL the photos that you have taken with your phone, not just the recent ones. The "Recent ones" is why the current way sucks. We don't want to see last 30 days. We want to see everything in one simple spot.

Using collections is not an option. That feature is crap.
 
I think to me I might not care, now that I think about it. I use iPhoto but, it just seemed easier with how iOS 8 is. I just don't get wanting to go to Camera Roll instead of just going to Photos. To me it's just what the folder is called, unless I'm missing something?

I'm with you...I didn't even realize this was a thing. The only difference I see is that it is called "Photos" instead of "Camera Roll" and that they added a layer of organization (time and place) to the way the photos are displayed in the user interface.

It seems like all they need to do is add an option to turn the "moments" organization on or off...because apparently some people prefer to look at photos in an unorganized grid?

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Thats wrong.

So is the Original Article when it says:

"Camera Roll allowed users to have easy access to their recently added photos without having to go into a photo"


The camera Roll showed ALL the photos that you have taken with your phone, not just the recent ones. The "Recent ones" is why the current way sucks. We don't want to see last 30 days. We want to see everything in one simple spot.

Using collections is not an option. That feature is crap.
So the primary beef is that you do not want your camera roll photos organized by time and place? Because as far as i can tell, it is still your camera roll (every photo you've taken with your phone), you are just forced to view them in the collections/moments format.
 
I'm with you...I didn't even realize this was a thing. The only difference I see is that it is called "Photos" instead of "Camera Roll" and that they added a layer of organization (time and place) to the way the photos are displayed in the user interface.

It seems like all they need to do is add an option to turn the "moments" organization on or off...because apparently some people prefer to look at photos in an unorganized grid?

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So the primary beef is that you do not want your camera roll photos organized by time and place? Because as far as i can tell, it is still your camera roll (every photo you've taken with your phone), you are just forced to view them in the collections/moments format.


No its currently the most RECENT (last 30 days) of photos you've taken with your phone.

Thats the problem. Camera roll was 'ALL' current way is 'MOST RECENT'.

Thousands of people didn't hit up twitter to complain about a Name Change. They were complaining about a Functionality Change.
 
I'm with you...I didn't even realize this was a thing. The only difference I see is that it is called "Photos" instead of "Camera Roll" and that they added a layer of organization (time and place) to the way the photos are displayed in the user interface.

It seems like all they need to do is add an option to turn the "moments" organization on or off...because apparently some people prefer to look at photos in an unorganized grid?

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So the primary beef is that you do not want your camera roll photos organized by time and place? Because as far as i can tell, it is still your camera roll (every photo you've taken with your phone), you are just forced to view them in the collections/moments format.
It also doesn't work properly with imported and/or saved photos which can appear in other time periods that you would expect them to appear, for example. There are also apps that are set up to look for photos in Camera Roll and won't work properly without that album being present--sure the real fix is for those apps to update, but if for some reason they don't or take a long time and you still want/need to use them in the meantime? Seems like having Camera Roll there while everything else is still there as well simply provides for another option for those who want to use it--having some additional options isn't a bad thing.
 
Many had no idea the "Years,Collections, and Moments" were on iOS 7, along with the Camera Roll. I never used it. Always just used the Camera Roll. So to get the Camera Roll back, you give up the iCloud Photo Library? Works for me!
 
Bad news. Especially if camera roll is kept separate from iCloud Photo Library. That was the point of getting rid of it. You snap photos on any device and it's in your iCloud Photo Library synced across all devices i.e the Photos tab. That tab is your one place, citizens, the true location of all your photos in chronological order regardless of device captured on. Apple said this on stage many times but people have a hard time transitioning, understandably because it's still in beta and the Mac version is yet to be released. The shortsighted view is what caused lots of us to backlash.

Real bummed.
 
Bad news. Especially if camera roll is kept separate from iCloud Photo Library. That was the point of getting rid of it. You snap photos on any device and it's in your iCloud Photo Library synced across all devices i.e the Photos tab. That tab is your one place, citizens, the true location of all your photos in chronological order regardless of device captured on. Apple said this on stage many times but people have a hard time transitioning, understandably because it's still in beta and the Mac version is yet to be released. The shortsighted view is what caused lots of us to backlash.

Real bummed.

There are loads of people that didn't watch the keynote. Even if they didn't, one would assume it just makes sense of what they did.

Unfortunately, just like iCloud Drive, they didn't launch it to be 100% functional from the start. I'm still waiting on Photos.app which I hope will pull it all together. Unfortunately, by the time that launches we'll have that archaic Camera Roll. Hopefully it'll be a "Smart Folder" and won't actually have actual photos in it.
 
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