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Apple to Broadcast Music Event
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Funny (to me)
I'll be on a flight cross country during the event. I'm actually bummed that I won't be able to follow this in any way (even just text updates).
Hopefully, I'll be able to fit in a call to a friend during my layover in Chicago.
God, that feels corny, desperate for update news for a product I already have for a platform I don't have (and, of course, maybe more).
I'll be on a flight cross country during the event. I'm actually bummed that I won't be able to follow this in any way (even just text updates).
Hopefully, I'll be able to fit in a call to a friend during my layover in Chicago.
God, that feels corny, desperate for update news for a product I already have for a platform I don't have (and, of course, maybe more).
Personally, I don't know why all of us Mac users are getting so pumped about an announcement for Windows users. But if you do live near a store with the broadcast, may I suggest that you take the chance to do a little evangelizing and bring along a Windows-using friend?
Me? I'm going to the Pasadena store just because I moved recently to SoCal and this is the first time I can watch an Apple event in-store. And yes, I'm bringing a misguided friend under the guise that the announcement is for him. Then I'll let him drool all over the wares at the store.
Me? I'm going to the Pasadena store just because I moved recently to SoCal and this is the first time I can watch an Apple event in-store. And yes, I'm bringing a misguided friend under the guise that the announcement is for him. Then I'll let him drool all over the wares at the store.
Yeah I'll be pulling in as many windows mates as I can. I'm sure they would find a web cast exciting, but more importantly I think many of them would enjoy the simplicity and functionality of itunes.
Apple is making a killing off pc ipod sales and giving the company heaps of credit. I think itms for pc will do the same thing.
I can't wait. Give me a webstream!!
Thanks Arn.
To add to this, when the original Mac-only iTMS was announced Apple (foolishly) embargoed that on the net EXCEPT I found it carried live on MSNBC with only one stream/media player, that being WMP... as wacky as that sounds, it did happen.
Which is where there's the rub, why the frick doesn't Apple just do these live like they were doing? Is Steve worried people won't show up? Apple again showing it's one of the most brilliant companies that doesn't get fully how hungry their Apple fan market is or snubbing it. As for on a recorded delay, who cares?! Seriously, watching something life is akin to being at a cool party, but watching it taped, especially all the specs and details are plastered across the net, is akin to being told about the party after it happened... no oomph. I wish Apple would get a clue and start doing things with LIVE web streams again.
To add to this, when the original Mac-only iTMS was announced Apple (foolishly) embargoed that on the net EXCEPT I found it carried live on MSNBC with only one stream/media player, that being WMP... as wacky as that sounds, it did happen.
Which is where there's the rub, why the frick doesn't Apple just do these live like they were doing? Is Steve worried people won't show up? Apple again showing it's one of the most brilliant companies that doesn't get fully how hungry their Apple fan market is or snubbing it. As for on a recorded delay, who cares?! Seriously, watching something life is akin to being at a cool party, but watching it taped, especially all the specs and details are plastered across the net, is akin to being told about the party after it happened... no oomph. I wish Apple would get a clue and start doing things with LIVE web streams again.
Knox Street is one of the smaller stores. It doesn't have a theater. No big screen, you see.Originally posted by mrpuffypants
Why Knox Street! Why won't you play things like this!
Damn apple forcing me to drive another hour into Plano just to see Steve's face talk.
....hell, I'll just watch the stream
I watched the WWDC keynote at the Plano store with about 100 other people, I'd estimate. It was standing-room-only, and I'm not a tall guy, so I had a little trouble finding a good spot. But it was worth it. There was a real energy in the crowd. It was fun to get excited with a bunch of complete strangers who get it. It was like being at a really good concert... or in church.
(Okay, folks. Sorry for the incredibly lame comment. Moving on now.)
press leaks...
Glad to see Apple's finally abandoning the 'vail of secrecy' on this event...
This has to be the worse gaurded secret in Apple's Domain....heh.
I've seen the same story on CNN.com, ABCNews.Com and YahooNews (via AP) to name just a few...
Hell, I'm halfway expecting TimesCanada to post a story just saying "Apple loves Music"...and nothing else..
Glad to see Apple's finally abandoning the 'vail of secrecy' on this event...
This has to be the worse gaurded secret in Apple's Domain....heh.
I've seen the same story on CNN.com, ABCNews.Com and YahooNews (via AP) to name just a few...
Hell, I'm halfway expecting TimesCanada to post a story just saying "Apple loves Music"...and nothing else..
?
Ok, I just searched for 'iTunes windows' in googleland and found this link slap bang at the top..
http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/
Has anyone else read this article? Any opinions?
dave
Ok, I just searched for 'iTunes windows' in googleland and found this link slap bang at the top..
http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/
Has anyone else read this article? Any opinions?
dave
Re: ?
Misleading propaganda...
They claim Artists get only $0.11 of the $0.99 a song costs on Apple iTuness Store..
How much does the Artist get when its sold in a store like Sam Goody?? I would bet its not much more than $0.15 a song...
http://www.negativland.com/albini.html
Check this out...I just found this and it really proves my point that artists don't get as much as people think from records...
Christopher
p.s. Artists make more money in concerts and promotions...many of the artists have been saying that for years!! Artists without touring don't make anything..even popular ones.
Misleading propaganda...
They claim Artists get only $0.11 of the $0.99 a song costs on Apple iTuness Store..
How much does the Artist get when its sold in a store like Sam Goody?? I would bet its not much more than $0.15 a song...
http://www.negativland.com/albini.html
Check this out...I just found this and it really proves my point that artists don't get as much as people think from records...
Christopher
p.s. Artists make more money in concerts and promotions...many of the artists have been saying that for years!! Artists without touring don't make anything..even popular ones.
Originally posted by djdarlek
Ok, I just searched for 'iTunes windows' in googleland and found this link slap bang at the top..
http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/
Has anyone else read this article? Any opinions?
dave
Re: Funny (to me)
No worries...just fly JetBlue, and you will have live DirecTV right in front of you! At least you would have CNN or something (maybe MSNBC?). Better than nothing!Originally posted by pbooktebo
I'll be on a flight cross country during the event. I'm actually bummed that I won't be able to follow this in any way (even just text updates).
Hopefully, I'll be able to fit in a call to a friend during my layover in Chicago.
God, that feels corny, desperate for update news for a product I already have for a platform I don't have (and, of course, maybe more).
Rendezvous
I hate to burst your bubble, but I seriously doubt the Windows iTMS will have the Rendezvous capability. For one thing, Apple can't add capabilities to the OS that aren't already there. Remember, that ability comes from Jaguar's built-in Rendezvous tech, not from iTunes. Unless Windows has this built-in too, which I don't believe it does, I don't think Windows users will get that.
Second, Apple has to have SOMETHING that compels users to go with a Mac. After all, this is mostly to spur sales of iPods and, hopefully, Macs too!
I hate to burst your bubble, but I seriously doubt the Windows iTMS will have the Rendezvous capability. For one thing, Apple can't add capabilities to the OS that aren't already there. Remember, that ability comes from Jaguar's built-in Rendezvous tech, not from iTunes. Unless Windows has this built-in too, which I don't believe it does, I don't think Windows users will get that.
Second, Apple has to have SOMETHING that compels users to go with a Mac. After all, this is mostly to spur sales of iPods and, hopefully, Macs too!
for people stuck in the office....
MacDailyNews will feature live coverage of Apple's Special Music Event presentation by Steve Jobs. Live updates will be available beginning Thursday, October 16th at 10:00 AM PDT / 1:00 PM EDT.
http://www.macdailynews.com/comments.php?id=P1952_0_1_0
MacDailyNews will feature live coverage of Apple's Special Music Event presentation by Steve Jobs. Live updates will be available beginning Thursday, October 16th at 10:00 AM PDT / 1:00 PM EDT.
http://www.macdailynews.com/comments.php?id=P1952_0_1_0
Two reasons:
1. Rumors are pointing to something more than just iTMS & iTunes for Windows. That could be iTunes 5. Or, and more up my alley, iPod accessories *crosses fingers for a compact flash reader*
2. I am an Apple shareholder. Anything that can bring Apple more (3. Profit!) is of interest to me.
Of course, reason #2 might not apply to everyone
Re: Rendezvous
>POP<
There goes your bubble:
Rendezvous for Windows
Also, for more bubble popping:
Linux iTunes Server Howto
>POP<
There goes your bubble:
Rendezvous for Windows
Also, for more bubble popping:
Linux iTunes Server Howto
Re: Rendezvous
Rendezvous includes two components: the application and the responder. Both have to be present. (Technically, only one needs to be there if you set up the responder as a proxy, but that's neither here nor there.)
The responder is just a program. It just sits there and listens for Rendezvous requests, then responds to them (hence the name).
On Mac OS X 10.2 and later, this service is provided not by the operating system itself, but rather by a little program that runs invisibly. That program is called mDNSResponder.
Bundling an mDNSResponder program with iTunes for Windows (or even making iTunes for Windows its own responder) wouldn't be especially difficult. I wouldn't be too surprised if Apple does it just to demonstrate how cool Rendezvous is to those "other people."
As it turns out, that's not actually the case.
Rendezvous includes two components: the application and the responder. Both have to be present. (Technically, only one needs to be there if you set up the responder as a proxy, but that's neither here nor there.)
The responder is just a program. It just sits there and listens for Rendezvous requests, then responds to them (hence the name).
On Mac OS X 10.2 and later, this service is provided not by the operating system itself, but rather by a little program that runs invisibly. That program is called mDNSResponder.
Bundling an mDNSResponder program with iTunes for Windows (or even making iTunes for Windows its own responder) wouldn't be especially difficult. I wouldn't be too surprised if Apple does it just to demonstrate how cool Rendezvous is to those "other people."
Re: Fill in the blank->
How do we know it's just iTunes for PC being announced? What about rumors of Speical Edition iPods (we never saw those earlier) and new iPod perfipherals?
Maybe they wanted to wait on the special edition iPods to have those come out with new iTunes(for both platforms) and new peri.?
hopes up!
How do we know it's just iTunes for PC being announced? What about rumors of Speical Edition iPods (we never saw those earlier) and new iPod perfipherals?
Maybe they wanted to wait on the special edition iPods to have those come out with new iTunes(for both platforms) and new peri.?
hopes up!
Re: ?
Notice the hypocrisy of his/her argument. After whining about how artists are not getting their fair share, he/she also states that you can buy a used CD on Ebay, so downloading is a bad deal for the consumer. But by buying on Ebay the artists are getting nothing!!! What an idiot.
Originally posted by djdarlek
Ok, I just searched for 'iTunes windows' in googleland and found this link slap bang at the top..
http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/
Has anyone else read this article? Any opinions?
dave
Notice the hypocrisy of his/her argument. After whining about how artists are not getting their fair share, he/she also states that you can buy a used CD on Ebay, so downloading is a bad deal for the consumer. But by buying on Ebay the artists are getting nothing!!! What an idiot.
From the downhillbattle skreed:
Economies don't just spring up out of nothing, you know. They're created out of the culmination of lots of market forces all acting independently. Basically, economics is a lot like the theory of natural selection. If a given economic niche can be filled, it will be filled... and if a hypothetical niche isn't being filled right now, then it almost certainly can't be right now.
In other words, if a system like the one the author rants on about could actually work, somebody would either have built it or would be building it right now. That's not what's happening.
That's like saying it's okay to squat in an unsold house and send the architect a dollar. A CD, or even a song, isn't the work of just the artists who performed it. Some artists write their own songs; many don't. So in many cases there's the artist and the songwriter. Then there's sound engineer who physically recorded the music. Then there's the producer who mixed it. Then the guy who holds the mortgage on the studio where it was recorded. Then there's the bank that owns the title to the studio that the studio owner mortgaged.
It's not as simple as "artist, consumer." It's far more complex than that. If you send the artist a buck, you're not paying for the work on the other people who went into making the recording. Just like if you pay the architect, you're not paying the builder or the contractors or the lumber yard or the logging company.
Copying a friend's CD and sending the artist a buck is still stealing, dude. You're just stealing from people you don't know. So that's okay. Right?
Now we finally get right down to the meat of this guy's argument: yes, downloading music is stealing, but that's okay, because it's stealing from the music industry. And we don't like the music industry.
Sorry, but I just refuse to accept that reasonable people hold this view. Stealing is wrong no matter who you're stealing from. If we were talking about stealing food, then we'd have an argument. If we were talking about African countries buying AIDS drugs on the black market, then we'd have an argument. But we're talking about popular music, for crying out loud. There is no moral system that could possibly justify stealing something you don't need just because you don't want to pay for it. That's just wrong, period, full stop.
It's all summed up in this last quote:
Jesus, that's just nuts. I mean seriously nuts. Dude, the way to show that you're opposed to the record label system is not to steal music! That's just monstrous.
Reading this rant made me sick to my stomach. If there's anything I regret about the emergence of the Internet, it's that sociopaths like this now have an outlet to spread their diseased ideas. It's the Fallacy of Democracy writ large: a slick web page (with a stolen look-and-feel, but that's neither here nor there) makes truly monstrous ideas seem somehow less insane. In the good old days, this guy would have been standing on a street corner, wild-eyed and screaming. Ordinary people would have just walked by in a hurry without making eye contact and not given him a second thought beyond, "Oh, that poor man. What a shame."
Economies don't just spring up out of nothing, you know. They're created out of the culmination of lots of market forces all acting independently. Basically, economics is a lot like the theory of natural selection. If a given economic niche can be filled, it will be filled... and if a hypothetical niche isn't being filled right now, then it almost certainly can't be right now.
In other words, if a system like the one the author rants on about could actually work, somebody would either have built it or would be building it right now. That's not what's happening.
That's like saying it's okay to squat in an unsold house and send the architect a dollar. A CD, or even a song, isn't the work of just the artists who performed it. Some artists write their own songs; many don't. So in many cases there's the artist and the songwriter. Then there's sound engineer who physically recorded the music. Then there's the producer who mixed it. Then the guy who holds the mortgage on the studio where it was recorded. Then there's the bank that owns the title to the studio that the studio owner mortgaged.
It's not as simple as "artist, consumer." It's far more complex than that. If you send the artist a buck, you're not paying for the work on the other people who went into making the recording. Just like if you pay the architect, you're not paying the builder or the contractors or the lumber yard or the logging company.
Copying a friend's CD and sending the artist a buck is still stealing, dude. You're just stealing from people you don't know. So that's okay. Right?
Now we finally get right down to the meat of this guy's argument: yes, downloading music is stealing, but that's okay, because it's stealing from the music industry. And we don't like the music industry.
Sorry, but I just refuse to accept that reasonable people hold this view. Stealing is wrong no matter who you're stealing from. If we were talking about stealing food, then we'd have an argument. If we were talking about African countries buying AIDS drugs on the black market, then we'd have an argument. But we're talking about popular music, for crying out loud. There is no moral system that could possibly justify stealing something you don't need just because you don't want to pay for it. That's just wrong, period, full stop.
It's all summed up in this last quote:
Jesus, that's just nuts. I mean seriously nuts. Dude, the way to show that you're opposed to the record label system is not to steal music! That's just monstrous.
Reading this rant made me sick to my stomach. If there's anything I regret about the emergence of the Internet, it's that sociopaths like this now have an outlet to spread their diseased ideas. It's the Fallacy of Democracy writ large: a slick web page (with a stolen look-and-feel, but that's neither here nor there) makes truly monstrous ideas seem somehow less insane. In the good old days, this guy would have been standing on a street corner, wild-eyed and screaming. Ordinary people would have just walked by in a hurry without making eye contact and not given him a second thought beyond, "Oh, that poor man. What a shame."
I don't think it would be a good idea to release i Tunes for Windows. Cause it was one of the first "i" apps and ithink the first 5 i apps should be for Apple users only.
Re: interesting to note
Don't you mean 5 possible stores. Palo Alto, Santa Clara, Burlingame, Emerville and Walnut Creek. you can see the broadcast in both Santa Clara and Palo Alto.
Don't you mean 5 possible stores. Palo Alto, Santa Clara, Burlingame, Emerville and Walnut Creek. you can see the broadcast in both Santa Clara and Palo Alto.