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Folks, a warranty covers manufacturer defects. That’s very nice to have for 2 years but it doesn’t do anything for damage YOU cause by dropping your phone.
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Please tell us more about how solid state components wear down from drops.

What you see on the outside what you consider a phone is actually much more complicated than a screen and a body. Inside there are large parts like the camera module, 3D Touch motor, speaker, battery, etc. and smaller parts like flex cables that attach to the external parts like charging port, volume buttons, vibrate switch, power button etc. The brain of the phone or whatever you want to call it is called a logic board, which is a circuit board layered with tiny electrical components called capacitors and resistors that regulate power for different functions, metal traces made of copper or silver, sometimes gold parts anchoring antenna components, and the most important parts called the ICs or integrated circuits. Anchoring the ICs are tiny balls called solder, which form joints that connect these valuable components to each other.

If you've ever dropped your phone and cracked the glass or not cracked the glass but nothing would show on the screen anymore, one of the internal components has likely been damaged. Feel free to use your phone without a case and glass protector. But the laws of physics are against you.

You're welcome for the free lesson today. To learn more, I suggest you consult wikipedia and iPhone hardware repair forums. ifixit is a good place to start.
 
I don’t understand the point you’re trying to prove.

ThrashingKitten said:
I'd rather have you just give me your money, because you clearly have no problem just ****ing yourself over lol

I'm trying to prove that not everybody has "no problem just ****ing yourself over" and that by not buying Apple care in the last 10 years I saved about $1,300.-

consider me self insured :)
 
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I personally would buy AC+ for the iPhone X, so I agree that it’s a good idea... especially if you need both other (non-screen) incidents!! $400 vs. $1100.

But your calcs are somewhat off, because you can’t get a refund if you used AC+ to cover an incident; the pro rata calc subtracts the value you received from the coverage (which would wipe out the refund).

Here’s the way I figure it (with vs without AC+)

$230 vs $280 — 1 screen incident
$260 vs $560 — 2 screen incidents
$300 vs $550 — 1 other incident
$330 vs $830 — 1 screen/1 other
$400 vs $1100 - 2 other incidents

Of course if you use no incidents, you would get the pro-rated refund. Like you said, if you cancel after a year, you’ll get a refund of about $90, and your cost will have been about $9/month.

Ah ok good to know; the terms dont even tell you that part (it's roughly implied value of benefit). Still worth having, maybe not so much on the screen (save $50) but the back glass for sure (save $250).

And if you dont use it it only cost you $109 basically for the year.

So it's really a win win. If you dont use it you get $ back at the end of the year period, and if you use it you save $ (at least $50) on either type of repair.
 
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These prices aren't strictly for damage. They're applicable for any out of warranty repair. Once the Apple Limited Warranty or AppleCare coverage expires on the unit, customers will be up for those prices for their respective issue, regardless of whether that issue comes as a result of user-inflicted damage or normal component failure.

And looking at the prices in Australia. Bloody hell. $419 for screen repairs, $819 for other issues.

Previously the repair costs remained fairly consistent across model at around $200-$250 for a screen repair, and $500-$550 for a complete replacement, and few consumers chose to repair their device at those prices. Positioning a repair as a viable option for the iPhone X will be an almost impossible task.
No, because the screen of my AW lifted one day. Apple Care+ expired. They exchanged my watch at no charge.
 
No, because the screen of my AW lifted one day. Apple Care+ expired. They exchanged my watch at no charge.
Depending on the type of damage and the overall condition of the item, Apple regularly does out of warranty repairs or exchanges. More likely if the item had AC+ (even though expired) and if it’s in otherwise excellent condition, in my experience.
 
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Yes. However, there are simply too many unknowns here. After iOS 11 and High Sierra quite honestly new Apple Tech concerns me these days. The 8+ is a fabulous device for those coming from a 6s or older.

If the X performs as intended I’ll definitely be in for Q4 2018. Not a chance before v.2 ;)

Exactly what are the "too many unknowns here" you are talking about?

Whats wrong with version 1? This isn't the first phone Apple has made, they've been making phones for 10-11 years now. I don't see why this phone should be viewed any different from any other iPhone. All the years of making phones has led to iPhone X. iOS 11 and High Sierra will be ironed out before the year is over. We all know with the launch of new OS there will be minor issues.

If this is how you feel about these two OS and new iPhone, then you should feel the same about all new OS and iPhones.
 
A lot of people are complaining about the price, but at least Apple provides that information to the public. I have heard that Samsung charges 300 for screen repairs on Note 8. And if you are enrolled in their insurance plan, it is 11.99 a month and then 99 dollars to fix your screen. I think that the current Applecare+ and repair costs are in line with the industry. Plus, you are seeing the repair costs prior and you can then make the determination if you buy Applecare+, insurance, or nothing.

Side note, my first post and congrats to those who are getting the phone on November 3rd or have already ordered it.
 
Exactly what are the "too many unknowns here" you are talking about?

Whats wrong with version 1? This isn't the first phone Apple has made, they've been making phones for 10-11 years now. I don't see why this phone should be viewed any different from any other iPhone. All the years of making phones has led to iPhone X. iOS 11 and High Sierra will be ironed out before the year is over. We all know with the launch of new OS there will be minor issues.

If this is how you feel about these two OS and new iPhone, then you should feel the same about all new OS and iPhones.

I simply want to see the True Depth System work as advertised for at least 8-12 months. If it works then count me in. Don't trust Apple on this one. Too rushed. Just like iOS 11. :apple:
 
Depending on the type of damage and the overall condition of the item, Apple regularly does out of warranty repairs or exchanges. More likely if the item had AC+ (even though expired) and if it’s in otherwise excellent condition, in my experience.
Okay, hmm excellent condition? It had had light scratches (SS).
 
I simply want to see the True Depth System work as advertised for at least 8-12 months. If it works then count me in. Don't trust Apple on this one. Too rushed. Just like iOS 11. :apple:

Apple has been working on the front camera system for more than 3 years, longer than their competitors facial recognition technology. But you're saying it's too rushed and you need to see it work as advertised for 8-12 months? If this is how you think then you must not own a smart phone, or your phone must be an old model. Your logic doesn't make sense.
 
Apple has been working on the front camera system for more than 3 years, longer than their competitors facial recognition technology. But you're saying it's too rushed and you need to see it work as advertised for 8-12 months? If this is how you think then you must not own a smart phone, or your phone must be an old model. Your logic doesn't make sense.

They fact that Apple "has been working on it for 3 years" does nothing to elevate my confidence in a .1 Apple Device in 2017. Sorry. Not the same company as 10 years ago. :apple:
 
They fact that Apple "has been working on it for 3 years" does nothing to elevate my confidence in a .1 Apple Device in 2017. Sorry. Not the same company as 10 years ago. :apple:

"Apple has been working on it for 3 years" could have been one guy working on a pet project alone ;-) People are too ready to believe all these marketing claims.
 
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.....and I am happy for you. However, I am not you, and you are not me. ;)
... and I think you have read what they did when the screen lifted.
+ they exchanged a watchband, this thanks to AC+.
AC for my iPhone X? No, thanks!

But I will be pissed, if the X does not work properly. I like Apple but I´m not a fanboy.
 
Not the same company as 10 years ago. :apple:
When I joined the forum here 12 years ago, the advice back then was to skip the .1 releases (both hardware and software).

I disregarded this advice and bought the first 15” PowerBook with a “high-res” screen (Apple’s term). Some screens turned out to have issues with horizontal banding and it started quite the commotion on here.

Anyhow, I think you have to go back a lot further than 10 years ago to find a period where Apple didn’t have some major quality goofs, esp with new technology.
 
They fact that Apple "has been working on it for 3 years" does nothing to elevate my confidence in a .1 Apple Device in 2017. Sorry. Not the same company as 10 years ago. :apple:

You say a .1 device. What exactly does that mean? I have said before Apple have been making phones for 10-11 years. You said you need to wait at least 8 months until it’s proven, but with each new iteration they add something new. Either in the form of something we never saw before or an upgrade to something already in the phone. Like an upgrade A series chip, speakers, display, wireless chip or camera is still something new and unproven. Does that mean you skip every device? Your logic is flawed dude.
 
When I joined the forum here 12 years ago, the advice back then was to skip the .1 releases (both hardware and software).

I disregarded this advice and bought the first 15” PowerBook with a “high-res” screen (Apple’s term). Some screens turned out to have issues with horizontal banding and it started quite the commotion on here.

Anyhow, I think you have to go back a lot further than 10 years ago to find a period where Apple didn’t have some major quality goofs, esp with new technology.

Fair enough. :apple:
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You say a .1 device. What exactly does that mean? I have said before Apple have been making phones for 10-11 years. You said you need to wait at least 8 months until it’s proven, but with each new iteration they add something new. Either in the form of something we never saw before or an upgrade to something already in the phone. Like an upgrade A series chip, speakers, display, wireless chip or camera is still something new and unproven. Does that mean you skip every device? Your logic is flawed dude.

It's ok Dude. No need to worry. I'm cool. ;)
 
I had two back glasses break. ****ing idiot Jony Ive should have retired after Steve Job's death. That's $1000 down the drain for an X and an XS Max. Clearly not made to actually be used by non-millionaires.
 
I had two back glasses break. ****ing idiot Jony Ive should have retired after Steve Job's death. That's $1000 down the drain for an X and an XS Max. Clearly not made to actually be used by non-millionaires.
Or you could try not dropping your phone or get a decent case and screen protector.
 
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