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The Apple Watch was originally marketed as a fashion accessory and that's as useful as it is. The fact that developers continue to drop support for it proves that. In terms of users I usually see only see middle aged women wearing them and an occasional male or two. I've owned one personally and it served no purpose to me. I saw one woman making a call on hers, she had it up to her ear. I tried hard not to laugh until I walked away.
 
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I said smart watch fad, which is broader than Apple - yes Android smart watches are pretty non-existant at this point.

I didn't say anything about the Watch being a failure, so calm down already.
Facts be facts. I’ve got a hot cup of coffee and it’s a beautiful morning.

No need to be so sensitive—though it is Monday morning.
 
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I wish they would stop focusing on health/fitness/fashion and make a thin/lightweight watch everyone can use.

We aren't technologically there yet. Android options tend to be much larger than Apple Watch.

I said smart watch fad, which is broader than Apple - yes Android smart watches are pretty non-existant at this point.

I didn't say anything about the Watch being a failure, so calm down already.

How is it a fad if it's still growing?
 
The apple watch is a fancy looking fitness watch. Nothing more. Hopefully Apple will keep adding extra features because it's a great device! Oxygen sensor would be great, glucose monitoring, anything really that benefits our health.

Now, to get the medical profession to take them serious!
 
Where are those gold Apple watches now? How many did they sell and are they even still functional? It was a ridiculous product; a limited lifespan that will be made obsolete and impossible to be serviced or repaired within a decade. Anybody who bought one has rocks for brains! I can think of many beautiful mechanical watches I’d love to have for that kind of money that can be serviced for generations.

First edition Apple products are nearly always very poor.

The gold watches were more or less a marketing tool Imo. Apple was basically giving the good ones away to celebrities. It showed that Apple was in the semi-luxury watch business, and not just selling another fitness tracker. It worked, seeing how few of the other smart watches made it.
 
If I were at that Shinjuku store, I'd walk down the street and get some Kikanbo Ramen... (edit: I meant Ikebukuro)
 
I said smart watch fad, which is broader than Apple - yes Android smart watches are pretty non-existant at this point.

I didn't say anything about the Watch being a failure, so calm down already.
Apple sales are increasing and Fitbit are focusing more on smart watch fitness trackers rather than basic fitness trackers. Xiaomi also have a range of smart watch fitness trackers (evolving from mi-band to amazfit bip/pace).

Also I believe Apple Watches are outselling traditional watches, combined with xiaomi and Fitbit, they certainly are.

Smart watch fad is over? It's only just started! :)
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I said smart watch fad, which is broader than Apple - yes Android smart watches are pretty non-existant at this point.

I didn't say anything about the Watch being a failure, so calm down already.
This was from 2016
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/24/smartwatch_sales_tank_over_50_percent/

In 2018 there are more sales, and I see lots of people wearing smart watches now.
 
This is funny. A depreciation from $10,000 to $700 isn't because of the innards. The gold alone is supposed to be worth more than that. That type of depreciation indicates no one wanted the watch even at 90% off.

Exactly. There is no market for the gold Apple Watch because it has very little desirability with collectors. Mechanical watches depreciate, too, but they level off and hold some value. In some rare cases, they may begin to appreciate again.

IMO, it was crazy to market the Appple Watch as a fashion item. It never had the presence of a Patek, AP, VC, or even a Rolex. Again, IMO, I think positioning the AW as a luxury/fashion item had Jony Ive and Angela Aherendts written all over it. I think they were just out of touch with what the device needed to be. In reality, it would always appeal more to the techies than the fashionistas.

Now, as a heath/fitness and notifications device, it’s excellent. Positioning the Watch in this manner makes much more sense.

I’ve had an Apple Watch since 2015 and I think it’s great, but I’ve never thought it was very fashionable.
 
Exactly. There is no market for the gold Apple Watch because it has very little desirability with collectors. Mechanical watches depreciate, too, but they level off and hold some value. In some rare cases, they may begin to appreciate again.

IMO, it was crazy to market the Appple Watch as a fashion item. It never had the presence of a Patek, AP, VC, or even a Rolex. Again, IMO, I think positioning the AW as a luxury/fashion item had Jony Ive and Angela Aherendts written all over it. I think they were just out of touch with what the device needed to be. In reality, it would always appeal more to the techies than the fashionistas.

Now, as a heath/fitness and notifications device, it’s excellent. Positioning the Watch in this manner makes much more sense.

I’ve had an Apple Watch since 2015 and I think it’s great, but I’ve never thought it was very fashionable.
The same could be said for concept cars or one-off super luxurious editions.

A car maker won’t sell many, but it generates buzz and hype and headlines which generates sales for devices more appropriate for those of us in the proletariat. :p
 
I wonder why they posted "Thank you very much for your continuous patronage" since they are closing ?

Shouldn't it say "Thank you very much for your past patronage" ?
 
See my note immediately previous to yours.

Please note you are viewing the durability question like a dude that buys a Watch and expects it to last indefinitely. That approach never exactly existed at the narrow top slice of the market (Patek Phillipe ad copy aside).

Folks with high disposable income buy watches like they buy shoes (not quite as frequently, but you get the idea.).

Folks at the large bottom slice of the market buy functional disposable devices.

True. It's not like luxury watches hold their value. Once they're several years old, the resale prices definitely reflect it.
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Even $700 is too much.

Nah... the gold is worth at least that much. You could always melt it down after you got bored with it and get your money back and then some.
 
Oxygen sensor would be great, glucose monitoring, anything really that benefits our health.

Can't speak for oxygen, but glucose monitoring isn't currently feasible. Non-invasive glucose monitoring would be a breakthrough that has yet to happen.

IMO, it was crazy to market the Appple Watch as a fashion item.

Luxury item, yes. Fashion item? Apple does have cachet there.
 
Where are those gold Apple watches now? How many did they sell and are they even still functional? It was a ridiculous product; a limited lifespan that will be made obsolete and impossible to be serviced or repaired within a decade. Anybody who bought one has rocks for brains! I can think of many beautiful mechanical watches I’d love to have for that kind of money that can be serviced for generations.

First edition Apple products are nearly always very poor.

This is the point that a lot of people like to overlook. Yes a Rolex can cost five figures, but if you do the service on it, it'll also last for decades. A Series 0 Apple watch likely will not last more than 3 before the battery ceases to hold a charge, and Apple will stop issuing software updates not long after.

I'm really tired of people trying to argue that Apple has rendered the swiss luxury watchmakers obsolete and how this is the greatest timepiece ever conceived. The first gen especially was a bad product, and 3 years later it still isn't particularly useful at anything it was marketed for.
 
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Its crazy how fast they flipped the switch from fashion to sports. I do appreciate my AW2 very much, very handy for cycling, and then I throw on my link band and go out somewhere and I think the watch looks great with my suit.
 
Can't speak for oxygen, but glucose monitoring isn't currently feasible. Non-invasive glucose monitoring would be a breakthrough that has yet to happen.



Luxury item, yes. Fashion item? Apple does have cachet there.
did you google? http://www.gluco-wise.com/

Before I had a Whiting pulse that could read o2 (that was in 2012).

I am sure no one thought a heart rate could be read using flashing green lights then along came: photoplethysmography

:)

Anything's possible and there are lots of things happening behind the scenes we aren't even aware of.
 
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I wonder why they posted "Thank you very much for your continuous patronage" since they are closing ?

Shouldn't it say "Thank you very much for your past patronage" ?

As with any language, translations are never really 100%. I think it's literally closer to, "Thank you for your long term patronage."
 
I couldn't believe the marketing strategy for the original Apple Watch as a fashion accessory. I really think that was the pinnacle of the recent climb in Apple snobbery. Apple has always been about making cool products that look good, but the primary focus has been to improve people's lives in some way. The cool, fashionable aspect has always just been a given - a byproduct of thoughtful design - and hasn't needed to be forced on buyers, like the watch's marketing in 2015.

The shift to fitness first, and then the watch being an emblem of athleticism and therefore coolness, is much more effective.

I criticize Apple quite often but the strategy was actually quite smart. They had to introduce a wearable as a fashion device and have the fashion world (Vogue, etc) talk positively about it because it had to be accepted as a non-niche, non-clunky device that looked cool and was approved by the cool kids in fashion and entertainment. As the Devil Wears Prada smartly teaches in its entertaining way, those guys in fashion can really change things and behaviors by commenting on the shade of a shirt. If fashion (and later celebrities) does not accept a wearable, it’s a potential mass market failure.”
I would never wear this thing” is said many times on many items. Since, sadly, ipse dixit is still a valid concept Apple played it very smart. Now that the device is accepted and not seen as niche or strange anymore, they can seize the Instagram generation obsessed with looks (and thankfully, fitness) and sell it as a fitness device.
 
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