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If I am going to watch a movie once. I would rather get it for free.

I have not purchased video media in ages since I am only going to watch it once anyways.

Agreed, If I am going to keep it I will buy it from iTunes, If not I will find a library and get it for free.
 
I assume 1080p downloads will be free to those people who have already paid for the 720p version of the same movie?

Given that some of them now are the same price to download in 720p as they are to actually buy a physical BluRay disc. They can't ask for a further payment can they ?

They can and most likely will. I can easily see them tacking on an extra $1-2 for HD+1080pZOMG downloads. And all the while Data Caps from ISPs will continue to shrink.
 
What competition? Who (aside from torrent sites) currently offers 1080p movies for streaming or download?

Ha ha. I'm with you.

I love all the "Apple is late to 1080p!" comments that don't mention who beat them.

Netflix? Hulu? Seriously, who?

Surely people aren't comparing physical disks and pirate-sites to an official movie streaming service. I mean, that would just be stupid, right?

So I'm still curious who, exactly, has beaten Apple to 1080p streaming. So many snarky comments here, so few answers to that question!
 
I hope they don't really call it HD+. 1080 is a standard HD resolution (as is 720).

...According to the source, at least three of the five largest movie studios have submitted titles...

And not to nitpick, but there are six major movie studios: Disney, Universal, Warner Bros., Paramount, Fox, and Sony.
 
Why is everyone making this sound like an insurmountable task or that their disks/networks can't handle it?

My guess is that the porn sites have been streaming 1080p for a while.

Heck, YouTube/Vimeo/whatever has been streaming 1080p for a couple of years. It's 2011. It's okay if the iTunes Store starts streaming 1080p.
 
Goodbye hard drive space.

HDD's are cheap, 3TB for less than $150.

Right now an average HD movie from iTunes is about 4GB. Even if Apple doubled the file size to 8GB that is still over 300 Movies on one 3TB drive.

Storage space hasn't really been an issue for years.

The ISP's on the other hand will probably not be very happy about this.
 
It's not HD+. 1080P has been part of the HD standard for over a decade. Don't make it look like you're lagging digital content is somehow now better, you've only just now caught up to the competition.

And where would this "competition" be that streams movies at 1080P through an online service that has the same library selection that iTunes does? (Hint: Vudu doesn't come close in terms of selection).

Its amazing how many negative people just crawl out of the woodwork anytime something new and interesting is announced.

Did you ever think maybe its not Apples choice? Perhaps its the IP holders who make the rules?
 
If I am going to watch a movie once. I would rather get it for free.

I have not purchased video media in ages since I am only going to watch it once anyways.

Hopefully you are not representative of the rest of society.
 
Give me a Retina iPad. That resolution bump would be quite noticeable. Watching movies, not so much, unless you have a really big TV and sit close to it. I forget the exact figures, but something like if you have a 50 inch and sit closer than 8 feet, you can tell a difference. Sit further than that or have a smaller display, and you can't. (1080P vs. 720P)
 
with a good quality encode, you can easily compress a Blu-ray title to 10-15Mbps with little quality loss depending on the size of your television.

Agreed. I've read that the average bit rate in BD movies is much closer to 18Mbps and not the theoretical AV max of 48Mbps that the purist like to throw around.
 
Steve Jobs on stage at the iPad HD announcement:

"And with our recently introduced offering of 1080p movies, you can now for the first time ever enjoy Full HD entertainment on a mobile device!" :cool:
 
Hopefully you are not representative of the rest of society.
Being frugal is wrong? I have better things to spend my money on than disposable media.


HDD's are cheap, 3TB for less than $150.

Right now an average HD movie from iTunes is about 4GB. Even if Apple doubled the file size to 8GB that is still over 300 Movies on one 3TB drive.

Storage space hasn't really been an issue for years.

The ISP's on the other hand will probably not be very happy about this.
Still not cheap enough.
 
lol @ "HD+"

More like at last we now have "HD-" an upgrade from "HD--" we had before.

Still a mile away from the 30/40Mbps that you get on BluRays

Then buy damn Bluray disks. The bandwith that quality would need is simply unfeasible at this point. You want 25-50GB downloads or streaming? Most people, myself included are completely satisfied with 720P content. It's the fringe geeks that need ultra high bandwidth 1080P, and bitch and moan if they cant get it through all mediums.
 
Ha ha. I'm with you.

I love all the "Apple is late to 1080p!" comments that don't mention who beat them.

Netflix? Hulu? Seriously, who?...

Huh? Do a search before you post -- there a few providers.

Netflix, for instance, does 1080p. plus 5.1 sound. Here is a list of the titles available:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1297186

I don't know why anyone in their right mind uses Apple TV to buy movies, when there are better and cheaper streaming alternatives.
 
Unrelated, but I'd like to see some innovation in the rental and purchase area. I doubt Apple will ever go to an unlimited streaming model and the studios don't like doing that for new releases anyway, but would it really be too much to ask for a discount on the purchase of a movie if you've already paid to rent it earlier? It would sure make renting for evaluation purposes a lot more attractive.
 
It's great on Xbox 360 (Xbox Live)

I don't use it much (only three movie rentals so far), but Xbox Live has been streaming 1080p movies for a while now. The quality is excellent, but obviously not quite BluRay quality.

As far as worrying whether the end user has enough bandwidth to stream 1080p without massive buffering, I wonder how MS deals with it for Xbox Live.
 
Huh? Do a search before you post -- there a few providers.

Netflix, for instance, does 1080p. plus 5.1 sound. Here is a list of the titles available:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1297186

My "search" has been what I call "Using Netflix."

It's nice that they're adding titles but I have not come across any as I use Netflix so I consider that more theoretical than practical. Once I start encountering 1080p on Netflix I'll start counting them.

At any rate, I find it all a bit pointless. I would much rather have a higher-bitrate 720p file thath looks sharp than a squishy 1080p file at a lower bitrate. It remains to be seen what Apple would be providing.
 
Huh? Do a search before you post -- there a few providers.

Netflix, for instance, does 1080p. plus 5.1 sound. Here is a list of the titles available:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1297186

I don't know why anyone in their right mind uses Apple TV to buy movies, when there are better and cheaper streaming alternatives.

Because it's easy and convenient? Because people have a choiceto do so?
 
2 questions:

1. Doesn't Sony already do this with the PSN Store? I was watching the movies I got through the Welcome Back program and checked the info on the videos, and I vaguely recall the bitrate being at 10 Mbps or close to it. Just wanted to mention another possible source already doing the "HD+" thing.

2. Has Apple fixed the gamma bug in their H.264 encoder yet? I'm still finding TV shows (and more notably cartoons and animes) with the gamma being off on the iTunes Store. I reported the shows and episodes to Apple, and they seem to fix later episodes, but they probably had to manually adjust settings to get that. When will we get a properly fixed encoder, Apple? (After the FCP X mess, I really wonder...)
 
Ha ha. I'm with you.

I love all the "Apple is late to 1080p!" comments that don't mention who beat them.

Netflix? Hulu? Seriously, who?

Surely people aren't comparing physical disks and pirate-sites to an official movie streaming service. I mean, that would just be stupid, right?

So I'm still curious who, exactly, has beaten Apple to 1080p streaming. So many snarky comments here, so few answers to that question!

Check out Microsoft's Zune marketplace. 1080p for years.
 
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