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Umm. Intel, AMD and Nvidia CPU designs are also made in Isreal. NSO is state sponsored too.

Hector Martin the guy to reverse engineers the M1 chips said that M1 chips have the best sillcon security and no backdoors unlike Intel's IME and AMDs PSP.
Intel has been designing CPUs there going back at least as far as Nehalam, and probably longer than that.
 
Why do so many companies in the United States go to such an extreme to avoid hiring American workers?

In chip design, it’s a seller‘s market. There aren’t enough engineers to go around. Going where the engineers are makes loads of sense, and that’s why so many of the big tech companies have a stake in there.
 
I agree - this is home base for one of the biggest intelligence agencies in the world and there is a long history of that group spying on America and its citizens… along with conducting industral espionage, and conducting false flag operations. The iPhone hacking from that shady group based there is another example... Where they targeted executives, leaders of countries, journalists, and activists for their spyware campaign… and while Apple has come out and publicly condemed that spyware and company, It wasn’t until after it was being widely spread that the iPhone security had been compromised by that group. Being the cynic that i am, I tend to believe this arrangement is more strategic in an alliance way than a technical talent and labor pool arrangement. Apple spends big $ in PR trying to maintain the narrative that they are independent and and advocate for peoples personal freedoms… yet there is a huge contradiction in those moral values with this arrangement. The more I learn about Apple, the less i trust them. Although, the alternatives aren’t any better… particularly with Microsoft… and google, the big vacuum cleaner in the sky…. Its to the point now that if you want to protect yourself from invasion of privacy you have to completely forgo having any involvement with technology…. and whats worse, is these purveyors of your security are making money hand over fist, much of it coming from the taxpayer via the law enforcement agencies around this country and or Gov’t from around the world…
If you want anyone to read, try paragraphs and shorten it.
 
I look forward to enjoy his Apple silicon segments during the Keynotes presentations.
I agree. It’s always the segment that isn’t drowning in marshmallow fluff. Too bad they make him take the mandatory Apple-video super-wide stance. it’s supposed to look assertive, I suppose, but it comes across with just a hint of lack of bladder control.
 
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Israel is an excellent country for tech. Approximately 85% of Israelis speak English (a mandatory study in HS and college) and there is a huge feeling of responsibility and ownership. Start Up Nation is a great book that discusses this phenomenon. Johny Srouji, an Israeli Christian Arab, knows this and explains why he is putting more R&D in Israeli minds.

BTW - Israel does some tech tours to showcase how they runs things. Very cool stuff.
In addition to just general time in the country I went to a couple tech conferences in Israel pre-COV19, always impressive stuff.
 
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So what do they do with that overpriced corp office? Have meetings about diversity and retail store numbers all day? Nothing is done here anymore.
They do plenty of software dev and chip design in the US too, but they are a global company at the end of the day, and to be competitive they need to be where talent is. Israel has a massive tech industry and some of the best chip designers in the world, pretty much every chip designer or fab either has dev centers in Israel or recruits heavily from the country's top unis like technion (Israel's MIT basically) - most both.
 
In chip design, it’s a seller‘s market. There aren’t enough engineers to go around. Going where the engineers are makes loads of sense, and that’s why so many of the big tech companies have a stake in there.
seriously, I've been involved in hiring conversations in this end of things, the number of folks who are actually deep into the arena of high end CPU/GPU/etc designs and such is almost surprisingly small, it's a very very difficult field to recruit in and Israel has a large concentration of those engineers.
 
“Designed Not in California”
did you think all their chip design was in Cali before? Hell, they've been in Israel for years, this is an expansion, and a lot of chip design work is done in collab with TSMC in Taiwan and elsewhere, etc. That's true of Intel too, though obvs different partners, and Motorola and IBM before that. The CPUs in your macs, let alone the rest of the silicon components, were *never* exclusively US designed.
 
Why do so many companies in the United States go to such an extreme to avoid hiring American workers?

REMINDER: Apple’s headquarters in the United States but NONE of their hardware is produced there.
Because they have competition. They manufacture in China because that’s where the cheapest workers are and they design in Israel because that’s where the smart people are.
 
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did you think all their chip design was in Cali before? Hell, they've been in Israel for years, this is an expansion, and a lot of chip design work is done in collab with TSMC in Taiwan and elsewhere, etc. That's true of Intel too, though obvs different partners, and Motorola and IBM before that. The CPUs in your macs, let alone the rest of the silicon components, were *never* exclusively US designed.
All the ARM stuff is based on a British design anyway. So there goes the US exclusivity already.
 
Through Israeli development, Apple manages and streamlines the data storage technology in a range of devices: Wireless communication components for the Apple Watch, as well as the integrated circuits that were developed in Israel, and the jewel in the crown: the Israeli team played a central role in developing the premium version of the company's flagship M1 processor, including the M1 Pro and M1 Max chips designed to support premium Mac computers such as MacBook Pro and MacBook Studio. These chips were built here in Israel while working with other teams worldwide, including at the headquarters in Cupertino

Macbook Studio?
 
Through Israeli development, Apple manages and streamlines the data storage technology in a range of devices: Wireless communication components for the Apple Watch, as well as the integrated circuits that were developed in Israel, and the jewel in the crown: the Israeli team played a central role in developing the premium version of the company's flagship M1 processor, including the M1 Pro and M1 Max chips designed to support premium Mac computers such as MacBook Pro and MacBook Studio. These chips were built here in Israel while working with other teams worldwide, including at the headquarters in Cupertino

Macbook Studio?
I'm gonna go on a limb and bet that's a mistake, but on the offchance it isnt I wonder what a MacBook studio would look like? Maybe an 18" or 19" version of the MBP in the same vein as the old 17" machines?
 
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To be fair Apple was one third of the founding partners of ARM, but yup, it was always and still is UK based and Acorn was a British company
Oh I wasn’t aware of that! Talk about long term planning ;) I just knew it was originally Acorn RISC Machines, I remember the Archimedes when it came out (although I had an Atari ST)
 
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In chip design, it’s a seller‘s market. There aren’t enough engineers to go around. Going where the engineers are makes loads of sense, and that’s why so many of the big tech companies have a stake in there.
So the country that has the most colleges that can educate people to be engineers, is the one that lacks engineers?
 
NSO can now incorporate it's spyware directly into the hardware. No more need to hassle with getting software installed on target all IOS devices. Brilliant.

Not a wise move on Apple's part. Probably the close to the last place on the planet I would trust.
 
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