Apple to Discontinue Support for iPhone 4 in iOS 8

[rageguy]

Man, people keep complaining about being dropped. Have you thought about what would happen if you put iOS 8 on a 4 years old device? Your phone would be ridiculously slow, apps may crash, you'll probably go on forums to bash Apple, then call Apple for support, tying up their support resources.

 

[CelestialToys]

Well I guess you can always airdrop from iPhone 4 with iOS 7 to iPad 3 with iOS 8 to Mac with Yosemite.
Not dead yet.

iphone 4 and 4s don't support airdrop at all, never have never will as they've not got the right hardware

 

[macman312]

So no iPad 3?? I've been looking for a reason to get a iPad Air and I guess this is it...

 

[CelestialToys]

So no iPad 3?? I've been looking for a reason to get a iPad Air and I guess this is it...

ios8 is coming for the 3 ( its listed as with retina display ) but like ios7 it won't get all the features, airdrop being one of them that's already being discussed

 

[Candlelight]

My 4 is struggling on iOS 7 so I'm kinda glad I won't be able to go to 8.

 

[captain kaos]

It makes sense, the iPhone4 didn't really provide a good experience under iOS7.

I don't know, my wife's 4 is running it with no issues at all.

 

[cjmillsnun]

Well I guess you can always airdrop from iPhone 4 with iOS 7 to iPad 3 with iOS 8 to Mac with Yosemite.
Not dead yet.

You can't airdrop with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 or 4S, period!

 

[mm201]

Can't wait to see their version adoption graph next year.

 

[Bahroo]

Yep, A4 was a beast at its time, goodbye single core bottom level platform, now its 4s (dual core cortex a9 and up) which is good

Ios 9 4s will probably be killed off and bottom level platform iphone 5 with its (dual core swift cores) will take place and so fourth

 

[allanfries]

Having finished my previous contract off with one, I can honestly say about time!

 

[christarp]

Apple gloats about Android security, but they abandoned my $1000 iPad 1 a long time ago.

I have an ipad 1 as well and in all fairness, the ipad came into market not knowing what to expect. The fact that it shipped with 256mb of ram was definitely a mistake, but I think for the most part apple didn't predict how big of a hit it would eventually be.

 

[mrxak]

I'm honestly surprised the 4S is going to be supported. Frankly I think anybody who upgraded theirs past iOS 6 is a fool. New iOS versions always make old hardware slow down. One upgrade is all you should do. I know from experience just how bad an idea it is to go beyond that.

 

[C DM]

I have an ipad 1 as well and in all fairness, the ipad came into market not knowing what to expect. The fact that it shipped with 256mb of ram was definitely a mistake, but I think for the most part apple didn't predict how big of a hit it would eventually be.

And/or they wanted to get it out earlier rather than a bit later and with a higher cost because of additional memory.

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I'm honestly surprised the 4S is going to be supported. Frankly I think anybody who upgraded theirs past iOS 6 is a fool. New iOS versions always make old hardware slow down. One upgrade is all you should do. I know from experience just how bad an idea it is to go beyond that.

Newer more powerful devices can handle more than just one new version.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

The 4S, iPad 2, iPod touch (5th generation), and iPad mini all have the same amount of RAM, and they all get iOS 8.

The issue with the iPhone 4 wasn't with its RAM, but with its crazy slow CPU and GPU. The iPhone 4 was pretty much just an overclocked iPhone 3GS.

Thanks for pointing that fact.

 

[Traverse]

That 4S is going to struggle......

I don't think it will do as bad as the iPhone 4. Remember, the iPhone 4 was single core, the A5 is dual with 7 times the graphics performance. Sure, it won't be as smooth as the new models, but it will hold up acceptably I believe.

I could be wrong...

 

[Anonymous Freak]

What about iPad 3? Is it included in iPad with Retina Display?

Yes - Apple's official name for both the "iPad 3" and "iPad 4" is "iPad with Retina Display". iPhone 4 is the only iOS 7-supported device that won't get iOS 8. I'm a little sad, I have an iPhone 4 that is about to become "spare", it would have been nice to put iOS 8 on it just to play with it, since I'm sure my work iPhone won't be "allowed" to upgrade for a few months after 8's release.

 

[frabber]

I hope they do that for technically sound reasons, and not for commercial reasons (to push people to buy new hardware).

But I do have my doubts here.

What if the IOS 8 experience would be slightly less on a Iphone 4, but not less so than IOS 7 on Iphone 4, in terms of sluggishness. I would argue that it should be the choice of the user to stay on iphone 4 sluggishness, not Apple's.

Especially since Apple products are expensive. I am not saying not worth their money. But in absolute terms very expensive.

 

[kaielement]

Why? It runs fine.

Is that a joke? Have you ever used iOS 7 on an iPhone 4? I deal with it a lot due to my job and I hate it. So slow and very buggy.

 

[the8thark]

This means iOS9 will be probably discontinued on:

iPhone 4S
iPad2
iPad 3rd gen (possibly)
And iPTouch 5th (if a 6th one is out soon).

 

[cube]

I have an ipad 1 as well and in all fairness, the ipad came into market not knowing what to expect. The fact that it shipped with 256mb of ram was definitely a mistake, but I think for the most part apple didn't predict how big of a hit it would eventually be.

I don't care. They should support it with a light iOS version.

 

[dampfnudel]

This means iOS9 will be probably discontinued on:

iPhone 4S
iPad2
iPad 3rd gen (possibly)
And iPTouch 5th (if a 6th one is out soon).

iPad mini 1st gen non-retina most likely as well. Next year a lot of people will be stuck at iOS 8 which may be one of the reasons Apple is packing it with a lot of great new features.

 

[numlock]

The iPhone 4 is a four year old device, it's time. Apple supports their mobile devices with OS updates far longer than anyone else as it is.

how apple treats older devices is an insult to the word support. the way iphone 4 users were treated last year is anything but support. hopefully 4s users will be treated better now.

take an original iphone or version after and set it up as fresh and tell me all the great use you get out of this otherwise perfectly working smartphone

 

[mw360]

I'm honestly surprised the 4S is going to be supported. Frankly I think anybody who upgraded theirs past iOS 6 is a fool. New iOS versions always make old hardware slow down. One upgrade is all you should do. I know from experience just how bad an idea it is to go beyond that.

A fool? Or maybe they just wanted features they paid for, like FaceTime, to start working again. Or perhaps they like their SSL certificates validated.

Otherwise, I would agree with you. I believe it's Apple policy to have the final available OS update cripple the device for eternity. Seen it on too many devices for it to be a coincidence.

And I don't believe the excuse that the newer OSes necessarily consume vastly more processing resources. Sure it sounds plausible, and the old CPUs look pretty weedy, but if iOS7 needed to do twice the CPU work iOS6 did, why didn't battery performance fall off a cliff on the more recent hardware? Why did only old hardware suffer at all?

 

[the8thark]

iPad mini 1st gen non-retina most likely as well. Next year a lot of people will be stuck at iOS 8 which may be one of the reasons Apple is packing it with a lot of great new features.

Or they give iOS9 great new features as a carrot to either upgrade your hardware or be left behind.

 

[mw360]

iPad mini 1st gen non-retina most likely as well. Next year a lot of people will be stuck at iOS 8 which may be one of the reasons Apple is packing it with a lot of great new features.

All those new iOS<->OSX features will be updated in OS 10.11 and iOS9. Let's see if they're backwards compatible. Like iWork wasn't.