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Apple to Discontinue Support for iPhone 4 in iOS 8
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If Apple continued to support their older OSs, there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, they don't. The day iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite are released, iOS 7 and OS X Mavericks are unsupported and will slowly lose functionality and compatible apps.
Meaning your expensive Apple device is actually dropped a lot sooner than the competitor's equivalent.
ios 7 works just fine
I held off updating until 3 weeks ago. My iphone 4 runs ios7 just fine. Not worried about ios8. Developers will continue to support ios7 for at least a year or so, and by then I will have upgraded to a newer phone.
I held off updating until 3 weeks ago. My iphone 4 runs ios7 just fine. Not worried about ios8. Developers will continue to support ios7 for at least a year or so, and by then I will have upgraded to a newer phone.
Wow; going from the first iPad to an iPad Air must be awesome.
I went from an iPad 3 to a rMini when it came out.
I use an iPhone 4 with iOS 7 every single day, and it works perfectly fine.
Sure, it lags in places, and the pin entry screen looks messed up, but apart from that it's perfectly usable.
I rather agree, in fact I think that the 4S shouldn't get iOS 8. I feel like new hardware and two back is fine. Heck its still more than many Android phones ever get
Agreed. Although iOS 7.0 was not a nice experience on an iPhone 4, the 7.1 update made it entirely workable.
Yes. If the ipad 2 is supported, it's safe to say the 3rd-gen is as well. It'll probably go to 9, a slim chance of 10.
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The 4S isn't struggling; the A5 is still a pretty strong chip. iOS 7 runs great on my 4S, and it even gets the transparency that older devices didn't, meaning that its still considered modern enough for most features of 7 and 8.
I have the 64 gig 4s. Beyond that it is a fairly expensive piece of kit
it works very well!
I really only want to upgrade for a better camera and 128 gig,
I suppose it will be cool to have a larger screen but
I may just get the 5s Some of us like the smaller phone, how it slips
into just about any pocket and how it fits in your hand.
We'll have to see how the 6 feels.
The 4S is very different hardware to the 4. Much, much more capable. It can run iOS 8 quite nicely.
While I wasn't surprised to see that the iPhone 4 wasn't on the list of supported devices for iOS 8, I thought that Apple may have included the 4, just not with the full suite of features.
With that said, my mom is still using her 4 on iOS 7 and it's been fine for her. I'm sure she will be less than heartbroken to know iOS 8 will not be supported on her phone (all the more reason for her to upgrade, if she wants).
With that said, my mom is still using her 4 on iOS 7 and it's been fine for her. I'm sure she will be less than heartbroken to know iOS 8 will not be supported on her phone (all the more reason for her to upgrade, if she wants).
He's comparing it to poor communication within a couple.
"Hi honey how are you?"
*unintelligible grumble*
"What's wrong?"
"Nothing's wrong."
"Are you sure? You seem like y—"
"—I'm. FINE."
*storms off*
I think that means he's not fine with regards to iOS 7 and the iPhone 4...also they possibly have marital problems.*
*...kidding!
They simply take a different approach then Microsoft. With Microsoft backward compatibility over the years tends to make it very bloated. They don't want older operating systems and applications holding them back from what they are doing now or in the future.
That's great and all, but as a consumer I find it really ticks me off. I also fail to see how having next to flawless backwards compatibility in their new OSs would hold them back. It doesn't hold Microsoft back. It helped make them the industry standard in the personal computer world.
It amazes me still to this day that upgrading Apple's OSs often creates more problems than it is worth. And yet with Microsoft there is rarely an issue if your hardware is up to spec.
Anyway... I digress.
Yes, I have an iPhone 4 with iOS 7.1 and the performance is fine. Honestly don't remember if it was any faster on iOS 6.
Either way, I don't see any reason why people would oppose an OS being on a phone without knowing the performance anyway.
That's great and all, but as a consumer I find it really ticks me off. I also fail to see how having next to flawless backwards compatibility in their new OSs would hold them back. It doesn't hold Microsoft back. It helped make them the industry standard in the personal computer world.
It amazes me still to this day that upgrading Apple's OSs often creates more problems than it is worth. And yet with Microsoft there is rarely an issue if your hardware is up to spec.
Anyway... I digress.
It goes along how the average consumer upgrades their devices. How many users are still using iPhone 4's compared to newer? I would say not many. Same with Desktops/laptops. iPhone 4's are over 4 years old now. They still will continue to work, but not any new features. The hardware on the 4's are not going to be great with new software 4 years after the fact.
From what I've seen, the average user only upgrades when their old one breaks. For example, do you really think it is people installing Windows XP on new PCs that keeps its marketshare so high? Or is it because people who bought PCs in the XP era haven't found the need to replace them yet?
I for one certainly do not shell out cash every four years just to continue doing what I could do fine on my older device. Of course there are exceptions and there will always be them who (for some reason) have to have the latest and greatest. But for the vast majority, I'd say they upgrade when they have to.
Are they aware that as they keep doing this, they will piss off more and more people? (Sales of iPhone 4 < Sales of iPhone4S < Sales of iPhone5 etc).
Snappiness
These things are so subjective...
When I first got a 3GS I was very impressed by the responsiveness of the phone, compared to every other phone at the market at that time. The 4S was also great, no lag whatsoever. But installing IOS7 changed all that. Of course I could still run all every app, but the snappiness was lost. Since I use my phone constantly, I couldn´t stand waiting those extra milliseconds/halfseconds.
The 4S got stolen and I replaced it with a midrange Android. Worked ok until I started installing some apps. Snappiness was lost. Then I bought a Samsung S5, and this has been running fine.
So I´ve learned that for me, fast responsiveness is mandatory. For most of my friends, it is not.
These things are so subjective...
When I first got a 3GS I was very impressed by the responsiveness of the phone, compared to every other phone at the market at that time. The 4S was also great, no lag whatsoever. But installing IOS7 changed all that. Of course I could still run all every app, but the snappiness was lost. Since I use my phone constantly, I couldn´t stand waiting those extra milliseconds/halfseconds.
The 4S got stolen and I replaced it with a midrange Android. Worked ok until I started installing some apps. Snappiness was lost. Then I bought a Samsung S5, and this has been running fine.
So I´ve learned that for me, fast responsiveness is mandatory. For most of my friends, it is not.
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Spending $650 on hardware I replace every year means I have a total cost per year(TCPY) of $650.
The same hardware that lasts 2 years is now TCPY of $325.
That same hardware at 3 years (which is where my iPhone 4S is about to hit in a few months) drops to $216.
I'm hoping to get to 4 years with my 4S (unless the 5-6" iPhone runs iPad apps and I can replace both devices this year) which I purchased during presale and had day one of availability and pull $162.50 TCPY on my iPhone. I can justify that. I can't justify spending $650 total*.
*Resale costs do adjust these figures, but I:
1. Can't outlay the heft cost in hopes of making most of it back on resale and can't do without a phone while I wait for the returns on sale and time to purchase.
2. Don't want to go through that exercise every year. The actual act of selling a device and relying on the returns just adds undue stress.