MasterHowl
macrumors 65816
Ah thanks for the info! Would be even better if it was possible via your Apple ID
Apple to End Support for AIM iChat Logins on Older Versions of OS X Starting June 30
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Ah thanks for the info! Would be even better if it was possible via your Apple ID
GeneralChang
macrumors 68000
But its a really pretty paperweight.
In all honesty, I still use my G4 iMac for stuff on occasion. Typically that would be stuff that I dont care if it ever sees the internet, so this change wont really affect me.
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Can I just say, you havent technically lost Spaces. It just looks different now.
octothorpe8
macrumors 6502
I would be happy with iMessage through the iCloud website, alongside the other iCloud apps there.
AppleWarMachine
macrumors 65816
AIM, what is this? 
Parasprite
macrumors 68000
Yes. Because keeping a five year old OS on your Mac is very lazy. God forbid what you think of XP users.
You don't wanna think of what we think of XP users...
sure we are. We still have access to all the cool things Apple keeps taking away from those of you running newer versions of OS X.
rdlink
macrumors 68040
What is so hard about keeping it running exactly? Is there some sort of license deal that has expired? Or is this feature removal for the sake of just removing features so you're more encouraged to buy a new Mac?
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Yes. Because keeping a five year old OS on your Mac is very lazy. God forbid what you think of XP users.
I think they're idiots. Really not a valid reason to run a circa 2001 MS (read inherently insecure) OS in 2014. None whatsoever.
richwoodrocket
macrumors 68020
I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to upgrade their OS to the latest version.
i am sure the people who still use AIM in 2014 dont care about what OS they r running
Many of my work colleagues use AIM for quick messaging. It's simple to use, great for passing files back and forth, not beholden to privacy-infringing models like Whatsapp and Google, has an open protocol, and offers encrypted sessions on clients like Adium.
tevion5
macrumors 68000
Can you blame them? A PC from 2001 can still run new software. Macs made before 2006 are incompatible with contempory software for years. With all Apple's resources, it would be nice of them to throw PPC users some software, even though it wouldn't make financial sense. It would be great for PR IMO.
Yes, this is perhaps a fine point getting lost here. I didn't even know you could use a Mac login on AIM. I still use iChat with an AIM login, and as I read this, it sounds like I won't be affected.
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May you never know what it's like to not be able to afford a new machine.
attila
macrumors 6502a
I should be too, I was born in 95.
That didn't stop me from getting an Apple II, 512K, PM8600, iMac G4 and PMG5 though!
We, the elders, salute you!
Dustman
macrumors 65816
The PC world would be in the same state if Microsoft hadn't gone from 2001 to basically 2009 in one leap. (ignoring Vista of course due to its limited marketshare)
screen sharing
Screen-sharing is the biggie for me, as I support a bunch of family members with Macs.
I do not understand why Apple, having folded iChat into Messages, didn't change screen-sharing to use the same IDs as for Messages. People really scratch their heads when I tell them they have to sign up for an AOL ID if they need my help.
Screen-sharing is the biggie for me, as I support a bunch of family members with Macs.
I do not understand why Apple, having folded iChat into Messages, didn't change screen-sharing to use the same IDs as for Messages. People really scratch their heads when I tell them they have to sign up for an AOL ID if they need my help.
It is possible if your Apple ID is a .mac or .me which is what this article is referring to LOL
OriginalMacRat
macrumors 6502a
I don't think you understand how Screen Sharing works.
iChat used the AIM connection for Screen Sharing the "handshake".
Messages opened this up to support other IM protocols in addition to AIM like Jabber (including Google Talk) can also do that handshake.
mfvisuals
macrumors regular
Yes. Because keeping a five year old OS on your Mac is very lazy. God forbid what you think of XP users.
Windows XP set a HORRIBLE expectation for OS longevity.
Just because Windows XP lasted as long as it did doesn't mean every OS should be expected to last that long.
Technology moves at such a fast pace that updating an OS at least several times a year (if not more frequently) should be considered a normal part of safe computer usage.
Using Windows XP that long was like using a really old car. It looked great when it first came out, but instead of upgrading to a newer (and safer) car down the road, you repaired that car over and over drove it into the ground, figuratively speaking.
Jessica Lares
macrumors G3
I stil use an iMac G4 because it still has a nice screen that is useful for using the Creative Suite, a completely useful set of applications that have never gone out of date, except because Adobe says so. I run a slightly older version of Scrivener, Cyberduck, Espresso, and Autodesk Sketchbook Pro.
I also use AirServer which allows me to AirPlay to it. and this one app that is miles better than today's Launchpad implementation.
Sure, there are some things that aren't great about using a machine that old. But it's mainly the internet, and OS X API changes that keep backwards compatibility impossible with new features being implemented based on them.
The machine was barely used to begin with, it sat in my school's photo lab all day and was used for Photoshop. If the machine was falling apart, sure, it is perfectly okay to trash it. But it isn't, so it sits at my desk and I've been enjoying it.
I think it has to do with SSL more than anything else.
I also use AirServer which allows me to AirPlay to it. and this one app that is miles better than today's Launchpad implementation.
Sure, there are some things that aren't great about using a machine that old. But it's mainly the internet, and OS X API changes that keep backwards compatibility impossible with new features being implemented based on them.
The machine was barely used to begin with, it sat in my school's photo lab all day and was used for Photoshop. If the machine was falling apart, sure, it is perfectly okay to trash it. But it isn't, so it sits at my desk and I've been enjoying it.
I think it has to do with SSL more than anything else.
This. Rosetta is necessary to install FCP7 for example. (Well, 6.5 with an upgrade to 7).
Also, stability is a big issue in later versions of OSX.
Plus, I don't need 'features' like launch pad when I can just add the applications folder to the dock and it does exactly the same thing, but in a scrollable window.
Frost7
macrumors regular
I always figured something like this would happen, so I always had iChat hooked into a non-Apple AIM ID. I should be unaffected.
arkmannj
macrumors 68000
I can understand Apple now wanting to have to maintain Rosetta forever, as they considered it a technology just to ease the PPC to x86/x64 transition. However, I wish Apple would have made the code Open Source.
BellsWhistles
macrumors member
Apple - Planned obsolescence
I would love to update my Intel based Dual Quad core CPU Mac Pro (1,1) to Mavericks. I would love to move onto Messages and be done with iChat. But,... Apple decided when they made these machines to cut corners in a way that everyone with that machine (and the 2 versions after that) CAN'T do it. So, we are stuck. Now we get to have insult to injury added, by having the defunct email addresses erased from usage (and eventually memory). All things progress I guess. Too bad that we have to toss, a well built and working piece hardware into a shredder. Well, at least that's what Apple wants us to do with them.
I would love to update my Intel based Dual Quad core CPU Mac Pro (1,1) to Mavericks. I would love to move onto Messages and be done with iChat. But,... Apple decided when they made these machines to cut corners in a way that everyone with that machine (and the 2 versions after that) CAN'T do it. So, we are stuck. Now we get to have insult to injury added, by having the defunct email addresses erased from usage (and eventually memory). All things progress I guess. Too bad that we have to toss, a well built and working piece hardware into a shredder. Well, at least that's what Apple wants us to do with them.
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