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BRLawyer said:
Because it's not the right venue...the invitation is clear, and refers to Aperture...nothing else.

i think that is flawed logic. i have never seen an apple "special event" invite refer to every single thing that was announced at said event. usually its based around a notable product which is the primary reason for the event, and other stuff gets announced as well. like a main dish + sides. i would only expect a C2D MBP to be a "side dish" at this event, personally.
 
shecky said:
i think that is flawed logic. i have never seen an apple "special event" invite refer to every single thing that was announced at said event. usually its based around a notable product which is the primary reason for the event, and other stuff gets announced as well. like a main dish + sides. i would only expect a C2D MBP to be a "side dish" at this event, personally.


I agree as long as the "side" product announce is a relate to photography.
I doubt the MBP is that product. Even though you can argue photographers use it.
The "Showtime" event had announcements of products that were all relate to music and movies/video.
That's why I feel skeptical of other things not close to photography.
 
gugy said:
I agree as long as the "side" product announce is a relate to photography.
I doubt the MBP is that product. Even though you can argue photographers use it.

i totally agree that when someone says "MBP" i don't immediately think "Photography!" but i think it is within the realm of possibility as lots of photo pro's use the MBP, especially in studio settings (i work with one who does exactly that - tethers the camera to Capture One on his MBP so he can move it around the studio easily; then goes for precise color correction on a desktop + Eizo monitor), hence why i do not think it would be out of place here.

i hope so anyway :)
 
My Logic as to why Apple has delayed the release of the C2D MBPs.

My Logic as to why Apple has delayed the release of the C2D MBPs.

Maybe Apple has deliberately postponed the release of C2D MBPs until the day before photokina because the new C2D MBPs would have more 'Pro' features than the current one. At present, i personally feel that there is little technical difference between a MacBook and a MacBook Pro to warrant such a huge price difference. So maybe Apple has added some newer and more advanced features for the pro users to justify the considerably higher proce tag compared to the MacBook. And Apple wants to announce these new Pro features at a conference for the Pro's like Photokina rather than at an event where they primarily wanted to focus on the entertainment industry!

Makes sense?
 
shecky said:
i totally agree that when someone says "MBP" i don't immediately think "Photography!" but i think it is within the realm of possibility as lots of photo pro's use the MBP, especially in studio settings (i work with one who does exactly that - tethers the camera to Capture One on his MBP so he can move it around the studio easily; then goes for precise color correction on a desktop + Eizo monitor), hence why i do not think it would be out of place here.

i hope so anyway :)

I look at the way the Imac 24" was announced. It was a new size and somewhat new product and it was only update on a regular Tuesday(Wednesday) without much fanfare.
That's why I think the MBP will be release on a Tuesday as well. Unless there is a major cosmetic change to it. Then it deserves a special event.
Otherwise, I think the Event at Photokina will be centered on photography.
Apple wants to keep the focus on that so too many things happening seems unlikely.

My 2 cents.
 
Horst said:
Hmm, I don't know,.... Photokina is the most important event worldwide for professional photography and related businesses, if not the only one.
Pro-books an Mac Pros are what this fairly big clientele uses.

Aperture is just another image browser, not important enough really to justify Job's presence there.

But SJ will not be there...
 
So, 300+ messages and so far what we have is...

"Apple's going to release the new MacBook Pros!"

"No they're not!"

"Yes they are!"

"No they're not!"

...

:rolleyes:
 
Apple QuickTime VR Authoring Studio :)

Well, if we're going to start wild speculation,guessing and hoping ;-)

I say we'll see the resurection of Apple QuickTime VR Authoring Studio.. Either as a stand alone product, or built into Apeture 2.0.

;-)


I hope..

jwd
 
Yea, too many people itching for the MBP now, no matter what Apple does at this point it becomes a MBP-issue.
And I'm one of them, can't wait to order one, obviously I sol my old PowerBook too soon, as I've been without a laptop for a little too long already now..
 
Wait.... is Jobs going to be at this event or not? If he's not MBPs are coming this upcoming week or not until october. They're not going to release an all new MBP at this event.
 
I would bet my left testicle that 18th or 19th they will release new MBPs. The news media doesn't care to much for incremental powerbook or imac launches, same reason Apple released imac 2 weeks ago then opened her up for the new ipod and itunes announcement. Same thing starting next week. MBP on monday or tuesday and the new Quicktake HD video camera on the 24th at Photokina. DUH can it get any simpler to figure out what's going on??
 
shecky said:
i think that is flawed logic. i have never seen an apple "special event" invite refer to every single thing that was announced at said event. usually its based around a notable product which is the primary reason for the event, and other stuff gets announced as well. like a main dish + sides. i would only expect a C2D MBP to be a "side dish" at this event, personally.

New MBPs as a side dish to a single, irrelevant software product? Not a chance. C2D MBP and MBs only by Macworld 2007...
 
jwdsail said:
Well, if we're going to start wild speculation,guessing and hoping ;-)

I say we'll see the resurection of Apple QuickTime VR Authoring Studio.. Either as a stand alone product, or built into Apeture 2.0.

;-)


I hope..

jwd

Hehe, worse than that only QuickTime 3D AND Cyberdog... ;)
 
"Yes they are!"

Um operating under the same "the invitation shows the only things that are released at special events" logic:

The recent event, for which the invitation featured spotlights and the words "its showtime" would only relate to movies and not iPods or the iTV that were also announced.

The February 28, 2006 event, for which the invitation featured the iCal icon and the words "fun new products" would only relate to calendars or maybe games? Not the iPod HiFi or Mac Mini update.

Or the October 12, 2005 special event, for which the invitation featured closed curtains and the words "one more thing..." which would only relate to movies? Not the iMac or the iPod video that actually showed up

The only invitation that was direct to the point was the september 2005 special event for the ipod nano, which featured the line "1000 songs in your pocket changed everything, here we go again"...

My point is the invitations are intentionally vague.
 
mcstewart37 said:
"Yes they are!"

Um operating under the same "the invitation shows the only things that are released at special events" logic:

The recent event, for which the invitation featured spotlights and the words "its showtime" would only relate to movies and not iPods or the iTV that were also announced.

The February 28, 2006 event, for which the invitation featured the iCal icon and the words "fun new products" would only relate to calendars or maybe games? Not the iPod HiFi or Mac Mini update.

Or the October 12, 2005 special event, for which the invitation featured closed curtains and the words "one more thing..." which would only relate to movies? Not the iMac or the iPod video that actually showed up

The only invitation that was direct to the point was the september 2005 special event for the ipod nano, which featured the line "1000 songs in your pocket changed everything, here we go again"...

My point is the invitations are intentionally vague.

So repeat with Fox Mulder..."I want to believe"...:rolleyes:
 
Klut said:
Why should they not put the Core 2 Duo in the MacBooks?
MB and MBP have had the same processor so far, so did Powerbook and iBook, it's just a matter of how many Ghz and other specs to make the low end - high end diffrence...

No, the iBooks and Powerbooks were both G3 for only a very small length of time. The Powerbook line moved to G4 rather quickly, and it took AGES for the iBook to get a G4 processor...

And the only reason the Powerbook wasn't moved to a G5 then is because it was practically impossible to get it in the form factor.

Then:

EVERYONE was waiting for Powerbook G5s - NO ONE was expecting iBook G5s.

Now:

MOST PEOPLE are waiting for C2D MacBook Pros - PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY LONG are expecting C2D MacBooks.


:)
 
UPDATE of proof that macbook pro's by end of the month!

I went looking on brenthaven for cases and came accross this:

http://www.brenthaven.com/catalog-shoulder-cases.html

All of the premium core cases are pretty much out of stock or pre-order for after september 26th. Also, if you look at the pro 12/15, there are two of them. The one that is out of stock is a little fatter in terms of depth, so does this also mean a fatter macbook pro? (possibly for DVD dual layer OR blu-ray?)
 
My own personal prediction

Just to get in the spirit of things I thought I'd make my own prediction...

9/19 - New MacBooks
9/25 - Apeture 2.0, New MacBook Pro's, and maybe just maybe an update to the cinema displays

I mean think about. We're already frothing at the mouth for the MBPs so what better way to push everyone to new frenzied heights :p

Besides that if you think about it, they've already updated most of their hardware line
 
BRLawyer said:
New MBPs as a side dish to a single, irrelevant software product? Not a chance. C2D MBP and MBs only by Macworld 2007...

in what world are MBP's irrelevant to Aperture? or vice versa? that are totally relevant for reasons i mentioned above.

edit: or are you saying that a C2D MBP is a main course kind of product as opposed to a side dish?
 
The Black Eye

Apple already has a black eye over the heat issues with the MBP.

Mine, after an hour of heavy use, feels like it's a half a degree from melting into a pool of slag. I can't imagine what the C2D would do to it. The C2D has a 9.6% increase in watts which means more heat. I am convinced that there is not enough engineered cooling for the 31W Core Duo, much less the 34W Core 2 Duo.

I suspect the delay is a heat issue.
 
The secret revealed

Q. What's a 100% expected feature in a cell phone these days?

A. A built in camera.

Q2. What's this special event a part of?

A. Photokina

therefore, Photokina == iPhone

QED.
 
Timothy Flint said:
3. Months ago Adobe started letting users work with Adobe Lightroom beta - for free, but only until the retail version is released AT PHOTOKINA!!!.
4. If you have Lightroom on your computer it will shut down unless you buy the retail version at a special Photokina introductory price. This is fact. It was announced months ago.
5. The special Apple announcement will be that Aperture will meet that price for Lightroom beta users.

Uhm, what are you talking about?
Taken from Lightroom's website:
Download now before the Lightroom beta 3 build expires January 30, 2007.

I highly doubt that Adobe will have the beta software downloadable for 4½ more month, if it's like you're saying (that it won't run unless you buy it)
 
Unspeaked said:
MOST PEOPLE are waiting for C2D MacBook Pros - PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY LONG are expecting C2D MacBooks.


:)


Smart a$$...

I don't really care about this event, I'm just waiting for the MacBook with Core 2 Duo, I hope it'll be out before 2007, as I've finaly got the money and need a laptop before Christmas... It's either a MacBook with Core 2 Duo or a Pc laptop for me...
 
maybe just wishful thinking

Just something else from my thoughts. I saw above that people are saying that Photographers use Macbook Pro's, I second that. I actually do not know a single photographer that actually uses Windows for digital photography editing (not saying that I know thousands or anything), and anyone that did before Aperture came out has already switched over. I personally see this as a great time for them to release even at least just a processor update for the MBP. But with Apple's lack of announcements on upgrading the processors while every other notebook PC company has leads me to believe that Apple will make sure it's worth it and make a clear difference between the MB and the MBP. So a brand new MBP and Aperture 2.0 (or whatever) would be the holy grail to any photographer not already convinced that Apple is the clear choice for digital imaging.

It just seems likely, even if its wishful thinking.
 
JAT said:
Surprised I didn't see 2 possible products among the wealth of predictions and arguing in this thread:

1) Aperture for Windows.
2) Something like this, not far from an iPod: Photo storage/viewer
Aperture for Windows will NEVER happen - where is FCP for Windows? THe Pro apps exist to sell Macs.

But I've been posting about a new, larger 640 x 480 next generation iPod here for over 3 weeks, which I also think is quite likely.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2760148#post2760148

But my second post from yesterday says it better:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2838760#post2838760

I think this is likely. The upgrade to 640 x 480 iTunes video downloads has to be exploited by SOME iPod. Someone trashed this second post, saying "well, it plays on my 5G iPod so you are full of it", but why would Apple take up more of the existing iPod's HD space merely to "downsize" the video at runtime. There MUST be a new larger size video/photo iPod that exploits this video in the works.

Of course I have the Epson P-4000 you linked to, but I think it is too specialized for general use. But done right, this could be VERY sweet and meet several different markets (photographers like at Photokina, video playback for travellers on planes or kids in the back seat of cars, etc).
 
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