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In the race of life, unfortunately pretty much every Japanese car outperforms the BMW. When you car is constantly in the shop because its reliability is null and its engine is a POS it's pretty hard to boast. It's as if some crappy PC maker prided themselves for having the fastest PC on the market all the time but which are always lagged down by viruses making them pretty much slower than any other PC maker including Apple (sure they can charge you to always have those viruses serviced but that kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?). The thing about Apple is they provide quality, performance and reliability. It's the package that matters not just the bare specs offered at the time of the sale. I'll take a Lexus over your M3 any day.
For most owners, the drag strip is irrelevant to the car-ownership experience.

PCs can have better specs than Macs but they provide a much better overall experience.
 
I would hope that Apple also adjusts the prices on the current lines, as they are not along with the rest of the industry, even as components are.
 
PCs or Macs?

I think he means Macs, given that the pronoun in a sentence usually references the previous noun. Also because most people say that about the experience of using a Mac OS X machine.

I would hope that Apple also adjusts the prices on the current lines, as they are not along with the rest of the industry, even as components are.

This is where it hurts the most. When you look spec for spec, or try your best to part out an equally spec'd machine from 3rd party parts, you usually get costs that are less than the Mac. This leaves only software, industrial design, and personal preference to justify price. I know it's been beaten to death so I'll leave it alone.

Getting cheaper Macs really means more users will pick up the machine, buy more services (Mobile Me, Apple Care, Pro Care, etc.) with their Macs, and/or pick up more than one machine at the same time. For me it depends on the actual price. A $899 laptop/iMac isn't much of a change over the G5/G4 era machines which gave users not only an iMac and iBook for $899, but an eMac for $799 with edu discount.

By cheaper, I hope to see a laptop at at least $799 (normal price, not edu) and an iMac/desktop at the same thing. Otherwise, it's just Apple stripping down base models and lowering the price $50-$100.
 
Rather than hurt their premium pricing position with price cuts, why not double the RAM on every machine, upgrade the HD size, and throw in iWork and MobileMe for free?

Or, just give us the option of reducing certain specs on certain machines. If one customer is looking for a gaming rig in a 15" MBP, give him the option of killing the 2.4 GHz or 2.66 GHz processor.

Give the budget college student the option to bump down a processor speed or two in the white Macbook, and give the pro user the option to buy a Mac Pro with NO HDD, RAM, or optical drive.

Most people don't get Mobile Me or iWork anyway, so including them wouldn't push too many more out the gate.
 
maybe it will just be a cheaper mac, same price, less performance. It seems to be their latest trend:rolleyes:

I really don't care about a lower price point mac, a rumored handheld type "netbook" would be great. That would be the cheaper mac which would still cost well over $500. Especially considering what the iPhone really costs. I would really like to see less effort on the design and more effort on the value of the computers Apple is making.

they are in their own league when it comes to notebook design anyway. All I see are knock offs and yes sony and dell have some nice looking products, I still feel they have a "cheap feel" to them. Apple really sold everyone on aluminum being the high end look, they haven't really gone away from it since the Tibook? whatever the first one was called. Shift focus please, and make new products.
 
Because straight line performance is all that matters right? :rolleyes:
Edit: FYI
BMW M3 E90 Quarter mile 13.19 seconds
Evo X FQ360 Quarter mile 12.672 seconds
Taken from 'Fastest Laps'

eh, the e92 m3 easily does mid 12 quarter miles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

and goes around the ring faster than any evo.

why am i being attacked for being a BMW fan anyway? funny, this forum being full of mac elitists.
 
eh, the e92 m3 easily does mid 12 quarter miles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

and goes around the ring faster than any evo.

why am i being attacked for being a BMW fan anyway? funny, this forum being full of mac elitists.
Your not being "attacked".

I do find it funny that you use the same tactics the supposed "fanboys" use when talking about BMW's tho lol.
 
eh, the e92 m3 easily does mid 12 quarter miles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

and goes around the ring faster than any evo.

Ya for the first 100 miles, it's performance is better; but the point is performance is relative to one's needs/demands. Will the BMW out perform the EVO for 100k miles or 200k miles?

why am i being attacked for being a BMW fan anyway? funny, this forum being full of mac elitists.

I don't know that you are being attacked, rather what's being attacked is the point/idea you are making, namely that BMWs are the best performing cars, which I and others have sought to suggest is not exactly accurate (mere specs are pretty irrelevant and useless generally speaking unless one is trying to brag about trivialities). And the point about the BMWs is that they are a useful analogy to Macs. Macs provide, on the grand scheme, so most would suggest, the best overall experience. That is the only price tag that should really matter, which is the point the first guy responding to you was implying with his mentioning of customer satisfaction results.
 
Ya for the first 100 miles, it's performance is better; but the point is performance is relative to one's needs/demands. Will the BMW out perform the EVO for 100k miles or 200k miles?



I don't know that you are being attacked, rather what's being attacked is the point/idea you are making, namely that BMWs are the best performing cars, which I and others have sought to suggest is not exactly accurate (mere specs are pretty irrelevant and useless generally speaking unless one is trying to brag about trivialities). And the point about the BMWs is that they are a useful analogy to Macs. Macs provide, on the grand scheme, so most would suggest, the best overall experience. That is the only price tag that should really matter, which is the point the first guy responding to you was implying with his mentioning of customer satisfaction results.

I am not saying BMWs are the best performing cars. I am saying they are better performing than the cheap japanese cars and it seems people are hating just because they can't afford a superior BMW and they do provide a better experience as well.

Isn't that why you guys bought a Mac in the first place even though it was more expensive than a cheap PC?
 
I am not saying BMWs are the best performing cars. I am saying they are better performing than the cheap japanese cars and it seems people are hating just because they can't afford a superior BMW.

lol that statement is so biased its not even funny

cheap japanese cars? seriously what is this hs?

my stance: id take a japanese car over a beamer anyday
 
lol that statement is so biased its not even funny

cheap japanese cars? seriously what is this hs?

my stance: id take a japanese car over a beamer anyday
+1
I cant stand flashy cars.

But anyway, its fun to see him make all these comments, then go bashing the "fanboys" for similar comments. Its like he doesnt see the hypocrisy!
 
+1
I cant stand flashy cars.

But anyway, its fun to see him make all these comments, then go bashing the "fanboys" for similar comments. Its like he doesnt see the hypocrisy!

hmm you can't stand flashy cars, but you bought a flashy mac. hypocrisy lol! like i said perhaps you should have bought a cheap pc which are bland, just like cheap japanese cars. I will take my superior design and build quality of BMW.
 
why you equate a bmw to a mac and a pc to a japanese car is utterly stupid:rolleyes:

eh isn't that what people always do here whenever the topic of mac vs pc or ms laptop hunter comes up. something like mac = ferrari and pc = honda.
 
hmm you can't stand flashy cars, but you bought a flashy mac. hypocrisy lol! like i said perhaps you should have bought a cheap pc which are bland, just like cheap japanese cars. I will take my superior design and build quality of BMW.

Yes, I like macs because they are flashy :rolleyes:

Are you a troll or just like to think everyone does things for the reasons you assign? I want the best PC experience, and to me thats mac OSX, the industrial design is just an added bonus. I'm never going back to windows as my main OS once I get my macbook.
 
yea by the fanboys....

and it gets shot down every time

why? because its the dumbest argument to be made
+1

You start to get MANY comments of people telling the car analogists to just shut up because the situations dont compare well.
 
Touch screen All-in-one - $545

Went to the local high street computer store a couple of days ago to buy a disk drive enclosure.

Ended up buying a touch-screen all-in-one at the same time - it was there, it was priced right, and it's fun.

It's an Asus eeeTop - essentially a netbook motherboard in an all-in-one case with a 15.6" touch screen.

http://www.engadget.com/tag/EeeTop/


Soon they'll add 20" and 22" versions with Blu-ray Disc and HDMI...

3-9-09-eee-top-et2203.jpg



I wonder if "cheaper Macs" will be "fun Macs", or just crippled.
 
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