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I thought of the Air as portable without the features and Macbook as entry level full featured. I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around a full featured Macbook for $800.

Depending how 'good' the new macbook design is, I can see the air struggling and not looking quite as 'special' as it did against the current line up.
 
Just because they use the same basic processor, graphics, or memory specifications, doesn't mean that the case design, industrial design of the logicboard, or cables are the same. The placement of fans, movable parts, or connectors can have a huge effect on reliability of such devices.
This is a good point. Design does matter and affects overall performance.

yer reaching, I have opened up ibooks, macbooks and macmini's. nothing special in there
Look again. Design does very. If you don't believe me, take two PC notebooks and compare.
 
Macbook Air = style over substance (pay me big bucks biatch)

LOL :p

Who knows maybe Apple had a change of tune and will make the MBA line the low cost portable with out the features line.

I just do not see them keeping that 13.3" notebook in that line at all.
 
For what its worth, Mediamarkt in Belgium (a big German electronics retailer) is selling the low-end macbook with 2GB ram for 888 euro. Official price for the same model with just 1 GB ram is 1000 euro, this is a big price-cut we rarely or never see around here.


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Is this the latest model of the MB or is it the previous model?

I bought my 20" 2.4 iMac from them for exactly the same price (€888) just after the new updated Imacs came and were selling for €1299 for the same specifications (except 1 GB less of RAM and slightly slower frontside buss).
 
The world economy is being devastated (intentionally, I might add).

Apple had better start making their gear more affordable or they will loose a lot of the market share they have gained in the past several years.

Besides, there is a logic to making "entry-level" units. Camera makers have been playing that game for awhile. They get people to buy into their system with a well-appointed starter model, and then they are hooked, as it were.

A cheap MacBook and even cheaper MacMini would bring a lot of people over to Mac. Once in, they will stay and upgrade.

This is true but they have to get the balance right. The cant just take the mini put an atom cpu in it keep the ram low, hd small and pimp it as the new mini.

Sure its cheaper but its also a poorer machine.

If these 4 new price models are true it says to me that apple are aggresively going after the low income buyer or those who just dont like apples current prices.
 
Like someone said, all bets on that the combo-drive will still be there for the base $800 MacBook...

Now I just wonder what they will downgrade on the base MacBook Pro to make us buy the middle priced model... A return of 128 MB VRAM? A stinky videocard? Whatever it will be, it's gonna be something annoying, that's for sure.
 
They could throw in a 17" model with an SSD as another MBP model
I think they will probably have the SSD as an upgrade or maybe they will come standard on the high-end.

So you're saying 1. 15 inch model, 2. 17 inch model, 3. 17 inch model w/ SSD?
I think the SSd will be an upgrade or may come standard on the high end models.
that should make my proposed set up cheaper
If you want your system to be cheaper don't buy the extra 2 gigs of ram from Apple. Buy it online for cheaper and install it yourself.;)
 
If you want your system to be cheaper don't buy the extra 2 gigs of ram from Apple. Buy it online for cheaper and install it yourself.;)

RAM, while still expensive from Apple is much more affordable than in the past
 
If you want your system to be cheaper don't buy the extra 2 gigs of ram from Apple. Buy it online for cheaper and install it yourself.;)

For sure, apples ram is one of the most overpriced things I have ever seen. They must have the same amount of profit in a ram upgrade as they do in an actual computer! I upgraded my iMac to 4gb for the price of a mighty mouse :D
 
you should say it runs windows and not same insides because I would wager u get more hardware for your money from a dell then a mac:rolleyes:

ok, I will let you slide on this one :p. i was not clear enough... What I meant by that was for the same hardware specs, you have to shell out $130 if you want bamboo, I think it was $50 or $100 if you wanted leather, and these Artwork laptops add in extra for the artwork lids. then you add in $20 (each) for the colored / interchangeable sleaves.

all that extra money, yet your specs are the same.

But as a second point of your comment - Yes you get more hardware for the money than a mac, but.... I would rather have a mac. Dell's tend to break alot , there sutomer service stinks, and yes there is that windows thing....

People say I have too high standards when it comes to customer service and I need to back down... However, I do not like where Customer service is headed in this county, and if I dish out $1000 or more for a machine, then I want to be treated with respect and not given a hassle when it breaks - especially if within the warrenty period.
 
yer reaching, I have opened up ibooks, macbooks and macmini's.
nothing special in there

I agree 100% with the highlighted part. But I find your ignorance to the point I was attempting to make quite amusing myself. ;)

Regardless, you don't seem like the kind of person that services computer hardware that often. Case design (Cooling, mountpoints, and chip location) plays huge in any electronic device's longevity and durability. This is true for everything from game controllers to laptops. In the case of devices with poor industrial design, you see a common string of issues and failures.

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In the new age of Apple,inc. a holiday makes Wednesday the new Tuesday. This fits in conveniently with the Monday Holiday..

I'm guessing invites pop up in inboxes later this afternoon or tomorrow for an event on Tuesday. Jobs will say available for order now.

$799-$1199--Macbooks 16:9 w/superdrives. Higher end Macbook upgrade for Quad-Core
$1799-$2499 Macbook Pro-16:9 w/superdrive. BTO option for Quad-Core.
$999-$1999 iMac 21" and 25"..The iMac is the disparity between the current 8 products and the 12 price points listed in this topic.

Monday is a holiday? Where?

Anyways, I think you're right on with the iMac updates, close on the specs - the only thing I disagree with is the MB

MB: $799, $999, $1199 (13" WS, nVidia NB/integrated graphics)
$799: 2.26Ghz, 1GB, Combo, 120GB HD
$999-1199: 2.4GHz, 2GB, 120GB/250GB, SSD BTO
 
I agree 100% with the highlighted part. But I find your ignorance to the point I was attempting to make quite amusing myself. ;)

Regardless, you don't seem like the kind of person that services computer hardware that often. Case design (Cooling, mountpoints, and chip location) plays huge in any electronic device's longevity and durability. This is true for everything from game controllers to laptops. In the case of devices with poor industrial design, you see a common string of issues and failures.

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like apple laptops overheating because steve has them made so slim?
:p
 
Not everyone burns DVD's yes, but having the SD drive in my Blackbook, and previous notebook w/ a burner, I used it and these were never buying points for me, at all. The truth is though CD's just don't cut it now for backing up data, making home videos etc. If it's there, trust me you will use it.

But ultimately, IMHO the combo drive works for the supposed $800 macbook b/c well if you want it cheap, then some aspects will be lower. I bought my macbook for $600 used from a friend a couple weeks ago, but it was the black model so I'm hoping selfishly the $800 doesn't have much better specs lol.
 
Too lazy to read what everyone else wrote but I think the $800 price tag is legit. Penn State is offering its students the low end MacBook for $799

2.1GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory (2×512mb)
120GB hard drive
Combo drive
 
I really hope this happens. Apple is getting blown out of the water with all of these sub-notebooks being released. Its almost every day on Engadget that there are at least four new sub-notebooks.
 
$800 would shut people up. good

No it wouldn't. Apple thought the Mac mini being $499 (first one made) would shut people up but it's lack of desktop components and limited expansion still have people crying.
 
Why are people so chuffed up about 16:9? What's the point? It's really not an ideal ratio for laptops. 16:10 is a nice compromise between 4:3 and 16:9.

Joshua.
 
I am really hoping they are doing a 15" 16:9 Macbook. The basic config will do me fine, with combo or not. Can't remember the last time I burnt anything on the superdive on my iMac let alone a laptop.
 
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