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Those are recommended requirements, I didn't say that Vista runs well with those specs. The original conversation began with someone saying that $800 PC notebooks come with 250GB hard drive, 2GHz processor and 3 gigs of memory. Someone replied that those system specs barely meet Vista's requirements. My point was to tell that Vista's requirements are much lower than 250GB hard drive, 2GHz processor and 3 gigs of memory.
 
I don't even want an optical drive on my laptop. Not everyone needs it. Many/most have a desktop as well.

Joshua.

I don't want a firewire to my laptop. However I understand that users have different needs and while I never need some feature, the same feature could be in everyday use for some other user.
 
Actually, looks like Apple will now try for the K-12 market with the lower pricing.

I have two sons, grades 6 and 8, and both use Macs exclusively at school. They're in middle school now, but that was true at the elementary level as well.

Only one data point, I know (this is the Ann Arbor MI school district), but I think Apple is already pretty decently placed in the younger educational market.
 
And pay an extra 500 to do it ? :eek:

If you're asking if I'd pay $500 extra for Mac OS X w/ combo drive rather than Windows w/ DVD burner, hands down I would gladly pay that much, however I buy my computers refurbished from Apple so it's not like I paid quite that much

But again, I've never burned a DVD in my life (yes I do have a super drive on my iMac) and don't find it needed since if i want to watch my files on TV I use my iPod w/ composite cables
 
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I was going to but an atv but will hold out till I find out what's going to come out of this.
Your right who wants to burn DVDs these days I'd rather stream from my mac to my tv. For £199 the atv is an expensive bit of kit for what it does. Stick leopard in it keep the price and ill be there!!!

Umm actually me.... I use DVD's for permanate backups as they will hold 4.7gb. Also, I have friends & family who (believe it or not) do not have a computer or have one, but not really saavy with it - so I just put together a DVD and they can play it in their DVD players.

Plus I distribute DVD's of all our church outings I tape or take pictures of (you be surprised of how many people are greatful and say thanks, and wish they had brought their own camera).

Yes I am a shutterbug - I have over 5,000 photos and about 300 or more videos.
 
Why does everyone want a macbook with a Dedicated GPU? We know the dedicated GPU is loads better, but the macbook is entry level equipment. Probably of 1/2 the mac users out there do not require a dedicated GPU, so no sense putting it in the macbook.

I'll add another reason to those listed above. A lot of users need more power than an entry level model but also prefer the Macbooks smaller form factor over its larger siblings. The Macbook Air is pure form factor over function at a much higher cost so it isn't really comparable.

I suspect this is what a lot of Asus Eee buyers are feeling- the need for increased power for what is essentially a barebones laptop. They appreciate the form factor which provides greater utility than larger laptops but are constrained by the performance due to the fact that in order to price the device in that range Asus had to compromise on features.
 
How many of those had Mac OS X?

OSX is £85. How do you explain the other £500?

I'm not arguing for Macbooks to be £300 ( although I think they are over priced) - I'm simply saying that a laptop that costs £800 should have AT A MINIMUM the abilities of a laptop less than half the price.

Selling a >£800 Macbook with iLife, but no means to use iDVD, is a rip off.
 
OS X for the masses...

Is definitely a good thing. Increase market share, react to economic changes, and grow the user base. Smart, very smart :)
 
Those are recommended requirements, I didn't say that Vista runs well with those specs. The original conversation began with someone saying that $800 PC notebooks come with 250GB hard drive, 2GHz processor and 3 gigs of memory. Someone replied that those system specs barely meet Vista's requirements. My point was to tell that Vista's requirements are much lower than 250GB hard drive, 2GHz processor and 3 gigs of memory.

Yes I didn't mean the specs listed by Microsoft I meant real world specs for Vista to run well
 
No it wouldn't, I'd scream from teh hills. :) I don't want some POS $800 laptop. I want a nice new MBP and a new Mac Mini!
$800 is a POS laptop?

I'd welcome the addition to the Mac line up. Apple never touched the lower end Core 2 Duo processors and Pentium Dual Core. It's about time.
 
if rumors are right and pictures too, seems macbook still will have optical drive, but $800 will probably buy you only combo drive. However $800 price is what I was talking about- $1000 with apple care and I hope they will not get rid of any of current mb ports, I wouldn't mind FW800 too. As for netbook I can purchase asus too, but that is not what I want. $600 addition is not worth OS and apple sticker only. Also after apple will cut prices competitors will have no choice but to do the same.
 
Question regarding Blu-Ray, my understanding was that software wise Macs wouldn't be able to support it till Snow Leopard is released, does this mean that if the new MBPs did come with a Blu-Ray drive they wouldn't be able to use it to it's full potential until Jan?

bollox lad all it would need is for apple to update the dvd player, the issue would be making sure all new macs can play them, without stutter, the nvidia chipset would help this
 
OSX is £85. How do you explain the other £500?

Form Factor and the fact that they retain their value since I always sell my computers to get new computers (i.e. I sold my old Intel Mac Mini for $400 to a co worker to help me afford my MacBook, yes I know some people will say he paid too much for a used Mac Mini but isn't price based on what someone is willing to pay for it?)
 
Question regarding Blu-Ray, my understanding was that software wise Macs wouldn't be able to support it till Snow Leopard is released, does this mean that if the new MBPs did come with a Blu-Ray drive they wouldn't be able to use it to it's full potential until Jan?

or it could be like Bootcamp in Tiger. it was Beta and a download. Perhaps we can download a "beta" software package that will be standard in 10.6?
 
Reason why apple will still keep optical drive? Because without one you will get something very similar to air and almost $1000 cheaper.
 
I can't wait!
But if thiis is true I really hope the $800 one is even worth getting.
Well worth it or not I will probably get different model depending on the specs.
I really hope they release a highend 250GB and 2GB Mac Mini and lower the price of the current highend by at least $100.
 
Aren't these rumored NVIDIA chips (integrated) capable of decoding Blu-ray discs? I would think that takes the burden off the OS and shifts it onto the hardware. Or would there still be the problem of the media player?
 
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