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Apple to Launch Cheaper AirPort Extreme, 3TB Time Capsule

miles01110 said:
News flash: transfer speed over wireless is rarely limited by the wireless protocol. It's almost always the crappy processors that get put into consumer routers.
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Certainly the case with my 1st gen time capsule, or as I like to call it, my external pinwheel generator.
 
z4n3 said:
Unless it comes with Thunderbolt (for initial Backup & move Large files quickly) and a way to link up to my AppleTV via Wifi there is no way I am going to buy this.

It is a complete nightmare trying to move large Aperture or Motion files, which transfer at a snails pace.

Mine has been sitting there for almost a year without use. I have used it a few times to connect via iPad to view videos stored on the TimeCapsule, but as far as a practical HD to store content the current version has allot to be desired.
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YOu can use gigabit ethernet for initial backup. :eek: AT best TB would be a small increase in transfer rate. You're more limited by the speed of the hard drive inside.

But it would be awesome if the $300 Time Capsule could also be used as an iTunes server.
 
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trip1ex said:
Not sure that's new.

They still say the Mac Mini is new and the Macbook Airs are new.

So the word "new" doesn't mean anything.

Don't see anything else to indicate it is new.
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It's not new. If you add it to your cart and then proceed to checkout you'll see that the model number is still MC340LL/A.

I'm really interested to see how they change the AEBS. The current generation has 3x3 MIMO already. I'm sure there's something up Apple's sleeve just not sure what.
 
kfscoll said:
It's not new. If you add it to your cart and then proceed to checkout you'll see that the model number is still MC340LL/A.

I'm really interested to see how they change the AEBS. The current generation has 3x3 MIMO already. I'm sure there's something up Apple's sleeve just not sure what.
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Well the Time Capsule isn't updated in the store either, but the description under Mac accessories is new.

That TC description tells you everything you need to know about a new AEBS. IT appears the only update for AEBS will be faster wireless N throughput and/or longer range and better heat dissipation. Small refinements in other words.
 
Just bought a new AEBS on ebay for $109. Works flawlessly, as expected. However, seeing new units are imminent really got me PO'd, but thinking about it, what new features (not design changes) could they be implementing that I'd find useful? I use it simply as a wireless router...that's it. No USB HDD, no remote printing, just a wireless router.
 
emfsfo said:
Damn, my linksys died on Sunday and I immediately ran out and replaced it with an Airport Extreme. I should've noticed the lack of units when I bought it from the Apple store.

If I go back and swap it out for a new one, has anyone had any luck in getting the 10% restocking fee waived?
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Apple canned the restocking fee about 6mths ago. go back to the store and pick up a new AEBS for one that............LOOKS and FUNCTIONS THE SAME as the previous gen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Update FAIL from Apple.
 
SimonTheSoundMa said:
ADSL please? Come on Apple, you could sell way more if you put an ADSL modem in it like every other manufacturer.

Anyway, I still do not 'get' the AirPort Extreme extra expense over a £40 router.
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Why the heck would you want ADSL modem built into your router?? What happens when you want to switch to DOCSIS cable? You are going to swap out the whole router?
 
way off

Ahheck01 said:
Assuming the prices are much more reasonably than current offerings ($99 seems very Apple), I will almost definitely buy the new Airport Extreme, if not a Time Capsule.

Although I hope this isn't the only announcement for today. Final Cut Pro X can't come soon enough. Anyone else?

What do you think:
Airport Express: $69
Airport Extreme: $129
Time Capsule 2TB: $229
Time Capsule 3TB: $299
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Man, we were WAY off target, too bad. I would have liked a new one for 229$. this must be the new apple austerity we've been experiencing.

HOW can an extra 1TB in the 3TB model be 200$ more than the 2TB version?
 
hitekalex said:
Why the heck would you want ADSL modem built into your router?? What happens when you want to switch to DOCSIS cable? You are going to swap out the whole router?
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I can't get cable.

I do not know of any reasonably cheap standalone ADSL modems, and almost all routers have ADSL modems, apart from Apple's own offering.
 
I posted this in another thread as well...however I have yet to see any of the news blogs pick up on this. While the price, overall appearance remains the same on the Airport Extreme, there seams to be a significant difference in the radio performance.


According to the FCC reports, there is a significant difference in the power output of the g/n radios at both 2.4 and 5ghz...

Previous Version...(follow the link, then click on the "Report" link)
http://goo.gl/B8PIu

New Version...
http://goo.gl/3yKRl


Previous Version...

freqency range mode output power dbm output power watts
2412-2462 802.11b 24.57 286.42
2412-2462 802.11g 21.56 143.22
2412-2462 802.11n(ht20) 21.17 130.92

5745-5825 802.11a 23.07 202.77
5745-5805 802.11n(ht20) 22.17 164.82
5755-5795 802.11n(ht40) 21.44 139.32


New Version...

2412-2462 802.11b 24.10 257.04
2412-2462 802.11g 24.88 307.61
2412-2462 802.11n(ht20) 24.11 257.63

5745-5825 802.11a 25.14 326.59
5745-5805 802.11n(ht20) 25.28 337.29
5755-5795 802.11n(ht40) 25.94 392.64



This should mean a fairly significant increase in range with the new model. I would imagine these figures would carry over to the Time Capsule as well.
 
SimonTheSoundMa said:
I can't get cable.

I do not know of any reasonably cheap standalone ADSL modems, and almost all routers have ADSL modems, apart from Apple's own offering.
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Here in the US, nearly all people in metro areas have a choice of DSL or Cable/DOCSIS. So hard-wiring a specific broadband technology into a router wouldn't make sense.

eBay is flooded with run-of-the-mill ADSL modems for as little as $10 bucks.
 
SimonTheSoundMa said:
I can't get cable.

I do not know of any reasonably cheap standalone ADSL modems, and almost all routers have ADSL modems, apart from Apple's own offering.
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Many companies make stand-alone ADSL modems (I used DSL for years and went through about 4 different brands). And contrary to your statement, most routers do not have ADSL modems in them.
 
cmaier said:
Many companies make stand-alone ADSL modems (I used DSL for years and went through about 4 different brands). And contrary to your statement, most routers do not have ADSL modems in them.
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That might be true in your country but here in the UK they are about 50/50 in ratio to normal routers.
 
lol at the guy wanting his cable modem built into apple's offering, and insulting apple because they didn't do such a stupid, stupid, stupid thing.
 
cmaier said:
Many companies make stand-alone ADSL modems (I used DSL for years and went through about 4 different brands). And contrary to your statement, most routers do not have ADSL modems in them.
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Yep, I use a Draytek Vigor 120 along with an AEBS. Works fine, just obviously means you need an extra plug socket.
 
So through reading page 5, it seems as though new AEBS, and TC's were announced but not much is really known what all of the new features are besides new frequency rages?
 
fat jez said:
Yep, I use a Draytek Vigor 120 along with an AEBS. Works fine, just obviously means you need an extra plug socket.
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I've had at least speedstream, motorola, and zoom. I found the zoom worked the best. I also found that routers with built in dsl tended to be low end affairs with little configurability, and that having a separate router allowed me maximum flexibility - i could swap dsl modems without having to re-do my NAT, wifi settings, port forwarding, etc.

It also worked well in the end since I was able to switch to docsis without having to re-configure my network.

Almost every time I've seen a router with built-in modem it's been some crappy thing AT&T is trying to foist on me. Go to Fry's, best buy, or check newegg.com and you'll see almost all the routers lack modems.
 
cmaier said:
Go to Fry's, best buy, or check newegg.com and you'll see almost all the routers lack modems.
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To be honest, that's because you're looking at a market that's heavily biased towards cable. In the UK cable is a minority (basically, the only cable company ran out of money and can't afford to expand), which means for most of us we are stuck using ADSL on poor quality copper lines (which is why few people in the UK get more than a 3-4Mbps download rates. The main telco, BT, refuses to put fibre down unless it gets significant government subsidy (which is unlikely to happen).

Rock and hard place, really.

But I totally take your point about swapping out kit and not having to reconfigure your network.
 
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