So, just as a bunch of us assessed, the iPhone e line is a direct competitor to the Pixel a line. No surprise, really.
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Apple to Launch iPhone 17e Next Spring, Claims Korean Report
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Being with iphones the last five years, this weekend I was looking at my son's Samsung S24 Plus and was amazed at its flush cameras. I was envious.
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I think I’m going to wait until iPhone 18e. Jokes aside, I think that first gen of 2nm Apple Silicon, including the A20 and the M6, is going to be quite interesting. Such a significant performance and efficiency jump, that I’m even considering waiting for an M6 Mac mini instead of getting the M5. If the M5 Mac mini has goodies such as Thunderbolt 5 ports, or the all new WiFi/Bluetooth chip, I may consider getting the M5. Otherwise, I think waiting for the M6 is the wise choice.
I’ll se what I end up doing with the Mac, but I’m quite sure that I’m not buying any new iPhone until we land completely on the 2nm + 12GB of RAM territory.
I think I’m going to wait until iPhone 18e. Jokes aside, I think that first gen of 2nm Apple Silicon, including the A20 and the M6, is going to be quite interesting. Such a significant performance and efficiency jump, that I’m even considering waiting for an M6 Mac mini instead of getting the M5. If the M5 Mac mini has goodies such as Thunderbolt 5 ports, or the all new WiFi/Bluetooth chip, I may consider getting the M5. Otherwise, I think waiting for the M6 is the wise choice.
I’ll se what I end up doing with the Mac, but I’m quite sure that I’m not buying any new iPhone until we land completely on the 2nm + 12GB of RAM territory.
Uhh...what? Can you name models since iPhone X that DON'T have a 60hz display? Or rather just go ahead and list the models that DO have 60hz display to date. That list will be a lot longer. You're not missing out much until you get used to 120hz, then you see how much you're missing out and it gets worse when you see for how long you've been missing out.
Yep .. the best way to enjoy 60hz is never use 120hz.
Once you do, it sort of ruins 60hz for you.
I get reminded of this constantly since I use 120hz on desktop with my Mac Mini M4 and OLED TV.
With out the U1 or eventual U2 chip and magsafe it is a no go for me.
Add those and give it a price break I would consider it otherwise i will hold on to my 12
Add those and give it a price break I would consider it otherwise i will hold on to my 12
If this is just going to be mostly a chip update, then they need to lower the price to $499 as it should have been this year. Then I think most of the complaints people have would go away.
I owned one for a few weeks and really liked it, but even with a deal from an MVNO to get it for ~$450, I had a hard time justifying it over an iPhone 13 (from the same carrier for $165).
I owned one for a few weeks and really liked it, but even with a deal from an MVNO to get it for ~$450, I had a hard time justifying it over an iPhone 13 (from the same carrier for $165).
When I put my iPad Pro or iPhone in Low Power Mode, I notice the difference initially but quickly forget that it matters much.
I actually thought the 16e would skip a generation. Apple themselves hinted that it was a phone that was built to last. I interpreted that as saying "Hey, now you get this e-version, and it's going to be a while before a successor comes out"
But okay, we don't know for sure either. But new equipment is always welcome. I think the 17e will be a minor update - new processor, and I'm sure they'll also add MagSafe. Dynamic Island is reserved for the "main line" for now, and they can't add Camera Control for God's sake - I sold my regular iPhone 16 to get rid of it. Maybe there will also be 1 new color, so there are 3 to choose from. Otherwise, I can't see what news 17e could bring.
But okay, we don't know for sure either. But new equipment is always welcome. I think the 17e will be a minor update - new processor, and I'm sure they'll also add MagSafe. Dynamic Island is reserved for the "main line" for now, and they can't add Camera Control for God's sake - I sold my regular iPhone 16 to get rid of it. Maybe there will also be 1 new color, so there are 3 to choose from. Otherwise, I can't see what news 17e could bring.
Maybe the modem if they've made improvements on the c1, I'll guess they'll release this for the next fews years with modem improvements (c1,c2,c3) then they'll be ready to have it in all iphones.
I'm happy to test it for them, I prefer the 16e look and notch anyway
If Apple releases the iPhone 17e with the A18 chip, I hope the regular iPhone 17 will have the A19 chip — not the older A18 like in the iPhone 16. If they continue using the same chip in 2026, that wouldn’t make sense. Why would they ship a two-year-old chip in the 17e if the A18 came out in 2024?
Apple plans to launch a second-generation iPhone 17e next spring, reports Korean outlet The Elec.
According to the report, the iPhone 17e will use the same OLED panel as that found in the iPhone 16e – a panel that originally debuted in the iPhone 14 – as part of its efforts to use lower-cost components based on established production lines.
Similar to the iPhone 16e, which launched in February of this year starting $599, BOE and Samsung are said to be supplying the display panels, though LG Display may also be involved. The iPhone 16e offers a 6.1-inch OLED display, Face ID, an A18 chip, and a USB-C port, positioning it as a more affordable alternative within the iPhone 16 family.
Back in April, one leaker claimed that iPhone 17e was nearing the trial production stage, with the mid-range device tentatively scheduled for a May release. Since then, industry analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has predicted that Apple will launch a second-generation iPhone 17e in the first half of next year.
It is not expected to be the last of its kind. Looking further ahead, Kuo said a third-generation "e" device will reportedly be released alongside the standard iPhone 18 in the first half of 2027. The unusual timing is because Apple is said to be launching the standard iPhone 18 and iPhone 18e in the spring – a full six months after the iPhone 18 Pro models – as part of its switch to a split iPhone yearly launch strategy.
Article Link: Apple to Launch iPhone 17e Next Spring, Claims Korean Report
The e--short for Europe--series will be the only iPhone available for sale in the EU. It's Apple's revenge for being forced to open up the Appstore.🙃🙃
I am *extremely* sensitive to the "soap opera effect" on tvs--simply cannot watch them for more than a few seconds when it is present.
But I can't see *any* difference in 60 and 120hz screens. I've had 120hz on an Android phone. But I turned it off because I could not tell any difference with it on or off, and it improved battery life to turn it off.
I currently have it on my Ipad pro (right? They have 120Hz?) But I can't see any difference. All I notice is the blacks are much darker vs my old Ipad Air. I guess I should be thankful!
I work in photo / video and think my eyes notice things your average consumer doesn't... Who knows?
Maybe someone at Apple making these decisions also doesn't see what so many of you seem to...
Maybe if I used it all day on my main computer monitor?
That's just a "you thing" honestly
I can tell instantly .. without fail.
Feel fortunate! You don't need more than 60hz! Consider yourself lucky!
I find it weird that I think a native 60Hz display looks smoother than a native 120Hz display downgraded to 60Hz (tried it with iPad Pro, MacBook Pro)
To my knowledge, there is no sense in which a display panel is a “native” particular frequency. There is pixel response time, which affects motion blur, and panels designed for higher refresh rates usually also have shorter pixel response times (though not necessarily, as for example the display of the Nintendo Switch 2 demonstrates, which supports 120 Hz but has horrendously slow pixel response). Maybe you perceive slower pixel response time as smoother at 60 Hz.
The 60Hz side I'm comparing to ranges from the el cheapo TN LCD - iPad Air A14 (I had it for a little bit) - full gamut IPS on a work laptop with unknown panel - iPhone 12 mini/13 mini, so a variety of panels with different pixel response times.
Again, that's why I said it's weird for me, as theoretically the ProMotion displays running at 60Hz should feel the same as the 60Hz max displays
The specs on Apple's site says "48MP Fusion: 26 mm, ƒ/1.6 aperture, optical image stabilization, Hybrid Focus Pixels, super-high-resolution photos (24MP and 48MP)" ??
I already have ProMotion. On the iPhone its advantages are negligible due to hardware(120Hz Touch refresh rate) and software optimizations. Plus it’s a tiny display to notice such differences
But on Google it says otherwise. I am confused!