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Careful, or you'll get a PM reminding you of a certain minor forum rule...

Personally, if someone from the USA or the UK uses bad English grammar, they should be fair game... :D

<sarcasm>English is my second language, so any bad grammar on my part CANNOT be reported</sarcasm> (Well, I'm fair game too) :D
 
MacRumors needs to return the downvote button. Clearly you haven't had a chance to get your hands on the new OS yet, but I can assure you that there are many more changes and refinements under the hood than the additional "iOS goodies" Apple has sprinkled on top. I have been using this as my primary OS for a few months now and my computer has gotten a breath of fresh life as far as speed and feeling lightweight. Don't expect any major overhauls for interface or core technologies until OS XI, if that ever exists.

And hey, if you don't want the new features, by all means don't use them. You have that option, unlike another company's competing operating system.

Exactly, I feel sorry for Windows users who don't like the Metro interface. From what I understand, MS pretty much railroads you into using it (to the point you have to load the desktop like an app on top if you want to work in desktop mode).

At least Apple so far isn't changing things so drastically you have to use the OS the new way. If you don't like the features, you don't have to use them. They aren't replacing stuff, more like adding.
 
Careful, or you'll get a PM reminding you of a certain minor forum rule...

Personally, if someone from the USA or the UK uses bad English grammar, they should be fair game... :D

<sarcasm>English is my second language, so any bad grammar on my part CANNOT be reported</sarcasm> (Well, I'm fair game too) :D
To your credit, I've known a number of ESL students/graduates with vastly better spelling and grammar than home grown hicks. But yes, the reminders are piling up. Weird though that no one seems to get a reminder of this minor forum rule: "Common sense. In the end, use common sense."
 
Oooh Nooo! What does this mean for all those complainers that said they would NEVER upgrade to snow leopard/Lion?!?

Suck it! You are going to have to upgrade eventually. Even better yet switch to Windows 8!

We don't need your disloyally!
 
Mountain Lion is incredibly fast blows away Lion, a must upgrade from the get go.

Do you have any tests to back up that statement? The few people I've talked to about it say it's about the same in performance.

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Please Apple, please release Logic X soon. Logic is unreliable on Lion, and from what I've heard the performance is not up-to-par on Mountain Lion. It's pretty ridiculous that Apple's professional software is not tuned to work with their latest operating systems.
 
I'm not upgrading till 10.8.x (10.8.1 or 10.8.2)
It's not worth downloading the day it comes out. I waited to download Lion till 10.7.2. Must likely do the same with Mountain Lion. Upgrading to brand new OS is stupid. Too many bugs and glitches. Rather wait a month or two till they fix it. The only major feature I'm looking forward to is Messages app. To me this next update isn't the same as upgrading from Panther (10.3) to Tiger (10.4). I remember when I made the upgrade from that OS and it was really like day and night from new features and improvements.

Lion to Mountain Lion is like upgrading your car windows from manual to power
 
Do you have any tests to back up that statement? The few people I've talked to about it say it's about the same in performance.

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Please Apple, please release Logic X soon. Logic is unreliable on Lion, and from what I've heard the performance is not up-to-par on Mountain Lion. It's pretty ridiculous that Apple's professional software is not tuned to work with their latest operating systems.

All you need to do is load up Steam, and play L4D2 or Serious Sam 3 BFE, and the difference in performance (between Lion and ML) on an AMD based GPU is literally like getting a hardware upgrade. Its staggeringly better. No idea if the Nvidia improvements are as great.

The OS in general seems more responsive too, but then that could just be psychological on my part. The gaming/opengl performance on the other hand is far from psychological.
 
I'm really happy to read from more than one developer/tester that Mountain Lion is way faster and zippy than Lion. Someone even writes that it's like Snow Leopard.

I was really afraid that with all that iOS controlled features, the new OS would have slowed down even more the machine, but it looks like this won't be the case!

Fingers crossed.
 
Apple has only said that the new version of OS X will launch in July, but 9to5Mac now speculates that Apple may be launching the new version of OS X on July 25th.

That's still...um...July. They said July, and it will probably be July. So I can't understand why you even put in "but 9to5mac.com now speculates". Wouldn't it make more sense to phrase it like that if it weren't launching in July?

"They said it would launch in July, but now it's speculated to ship in August". See what I mean? I don't know, just looks weird. :rolleyes:
 
I can't wait for the release!
Not because of ML itself, but because Siracusa will publish the review of it.
I judge about installing it based on it!
 
I've always been slow to adopt apples newest os and os updates. Only retarded or new os x users adopt early updates. But I will never upgrade to mountain lion. I don't need sand boxing or fewer features or iOS like options. Screw apple.

LOL! I agree that being an early-adopter carries risks, and I also prefer to wait until the kinks are worked out before I upgrade to a new OS. However, even if you do leave Apple, I am afraid that you will run into sandboxed applications and iOS/iCloud-like features no matter where you turn. Cloud computing, sandboxed apps, and social networking features are the way of the future.

And what do you say about fewer features? Apple says that there are over 200 new features in Mountain Lion, it appears that there are far more features than in Snow Leopard or Lion.
 
LOL! I agree that being an early-adopter carries risks, and I also prefer to wait until the kinks are worked out before I upgrade to a new OS. However, even if you do leave Apple, I am afraid that you will run into sandboxed applications and iOS/iCloud-like features no matter where you turn. Cloud computing, sandboxed apps, and social networking features are the way of the future.

Agreed. For better or worse, it seems this is way things are going. At least until it becomes obvious that it wasn't such a great idea after all.
 
The single best feature about Mountain Lion I've read about is the hot key for 'Save As'! I'm quite happy Apple listened to that request. I sent that to their feedback site quite soon after Lion's release, and I remember many people on these forums wanted to see a return of 'Save As' and suggested going to the feedback site. The only real problem is how awkward the keyboard shortcut will be - Command-Option-Shift-S! Anything beyond a three-finger shortcut just seems ridiculous to me, but you probably won't hear any further complaints from this end. Really looking forward to this release.
 
they also speculate that there wont be any updated hardware WTF!!!!!! seriously whats going with the iMacs is anyone with me?

I couldn't agree more. An updated iMac is extremely overdue. Bring on the Ivy Bridge, Retina Display, minumum of 8 GB RAM as standard 27 inch iMac. Now!
 
I'm really happy to read from more than one developer/tester that Mountain Lion is way faster and zippy than Lion. Someone even writes that it's like Snow Leopard.

I was really afraid that with all that iOS controlled features, the new OS would have slowed down even more the machine, but it looks like this won't be the case!

Fingers crossed.

In total, Mountain Lion is a good upgrade. I don't need any of that useless Facebook/Twitter/Social Network crap that crawled into the OS, but it has MANY little improvements and features that make Mountain Lion a much better operating system with higher usability than Lion or any other of its predecessors. After having used it for a coupe of days, I am not sure whether it is really faster than Lion in everyday use; after a fresh install it felt faster, but once all my other software was on the system, I didn't feel that much of a difference anymore.

That brings me to this rather important point:

Do NOT make an upgrade installation! Wipe the hard disk and install a FRESH version of Mountain Lion. I tried a direct upgrade from Lion and afterwards the system was slow and behaved erratic to a point that made it unusable. A clean installation fixed all this for me.

One other thing: If you have a Cyborg RAT7 Contagion mouse, forget about it. The mouse is not yet compatible with Mountain Lion and it causes a ton of weird behavior of the dock, the menu bar and even your web browsers. The current available driver version is 1.1.42 and it does NOT solve any problems on Mountain Lion. Wait for the next release.

By the way, Microsoft Office 2008 and even Adobe Photoshop CS3 work both well under Mountain Lion. The only problem with CS3 is that it no longer connects to Adobe's update servers, you have to download and fetch the available updates manually.

Growl from the Mac AppStore also still works properly and runs side by side Apple's new notification system. Personally, Apple's notification system is of no use to me - I don't use Safari or any other of Apple's mini applications that come with the operating system, so I have yet to see the first notification coming through that pipeline. I'm sure that will change over time, but at the moment it doesn't do anything for me.

Gatekeeper: I prefer to call it Dungeon Keeper, but it doesn't really matter because it was the first feature that I had to turn off - VLC does NOT run if you have Gatekeeper activated, and VLC is my default video player.

Apple has a major design flaw in Gatekeeper - you CANNOT leave it turned on and simply add exception for that one application that does not run when Gatekeeper is turned on. It's either all or nothing. So I'd say that this whole security design is useless and Apple does not deserve any laurels for it. But then again, I still suspect that they did not care for security at all and only tried to push more users into the Mac AppStore.
 
They are not the future, just a way for corporations to mine even more of your data and information. That's why they are proclaimed as the future by these corporations. Sadly, too many people repeat it and play along without a second thought.
Thank baby Jesus you're here to save us from all that tyranny.
 
I've always been slow to adopt apples newest os and os updates. Only retarded or new os x users adopt early updates. But I will never upgrade to mountain lion. I don't need sand boxing or fewer features or iOS like options. Screw apple.

Whoa, you sure showed Apple who's boss! :p:rolleyes:
 
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