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Where's my iMac?:mad:
I've been waiting since February, with a big pile of cash, to buy a new iMac.

Yes, the current model is much faster and more powerful than my six-year-old one, and can more than handle the jobs I'm likely to throw at it:

But the longer I wait, the more I'm sure that new models must be imminent.

And if I do buy the current model now, I'm going to feel like I've been shafted when the new ones turn up, which inevitably will be 10 minutes after the 14-day refund on my purchase expires.

IvyBridge, better GPU, cheaper/more SSD and USB 3 will do me fine.

As for Mountain Lion: I'm hoping that it will fix all the bugs in Lion, and that the Dictation feature will be useable. Apart from that, I haven't seen that much to commend it. If it's a bit snappier, that will do.
 
Thank baby Jesus you're here to save us from all that tyranny.

I'm not here to save you. You can only do that yourself. But since thinking about what happens to your data once it's in the cloud requires more effort than posting a pseudo-witty comment that makes you feel superior, I doubt you are capable of questioning things presented to you by father Apple and mommy facebook.
 
I'm not here to save you. You can only do that yourself. But since thinking about what happens to your data once it's in the cloud requires more effort than posting a pseudo-witty comment that makes you feel superior, I doubt you are capable of questioning things presented to you by father Apple and mommy facebook.
Haha great stuff. Hit me with some more probing insight into my character and potential parental issues based upon a sentence you've read on the internet.
 
Oooh Nooo! What does this mean for all those complainers that said they would NEVER upgrade to snow leopard/Lion?!?

Suck it! You are going to have to upgrade eventually. Even better yet switch to Windows 8!

We don't need your disloyally!

What???

It's a product you purchase not a cult.

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In total, Mountain Lion is a good upgrade. I don't need any of that useless Facebook/Twitter/Social Network crap that crawled into the OS, but it has MANY little improvements and features that make Mountain Lion a much better operating system with higher usability than Lion or any other of its predecessors. After having used it for a coupe of days, I am not sure whether it is really faster than Lion in everyday use; after a fresh install it felt faster, but once all my other software was on the system, I didn't feel that much of a difference anymore.

That brings me to this rather important point:

Do NOT make an upgrade installation! Wipe the hard disk and install a FRESH version of Mountain Lion. I tried a direct upgrade from Lion and afterwards the system was slow and behaved erratic to a point that made it unusable. A clean installation fixed all this for me.

One other thing: If you have a Cyborg RAT7 Contagion mouse, forget about it. The mouse is not yet compatible with Mountain Lion and it causes a ton of weird behavior of the dock, the menu bar and even your web browsers. The current available driver version is 1.1.42 and it does NOT solve any problems on Mountain Lion. Wait for the next release.

By the way, Microsoft Office 2008 and even Adobe Photoshop CS3 work both well under Mountain Lion. The only problem with CS3 is that it no longer connects to Adobe's update servers, you have to download and fetch the available updates manually.

Growl from the Mac AppStore also still works properly and runs side by side Apple's new notification system. Personally, Apple's notification system is of no use to me - I don't use Safari or any other of Apple's mini applications that come with the operating system, so I have yet to see the first notification coming through that pipeline. I'm sure that will change over time, but at the moment it doesn't do anything for me.

Gatekeeper: I prefer to call it Dungeon Keeper, but it doesn't really matter because it was the first feature that I had to turn off - VLC does NOT run if you have Gatekeeper activated, and VLC is my default video player.

Apple has a major design flaw in Gatekeeper - you CANNOT leave it turned on and simply add exception for that one application that does not run when Gatekeeper is turned on. It's either all or nothing. So I'd say that this whole security design is useless and Apple does not deserve any laurels for it. But then again, I still suspect that they did not care for security at all and only tried to push more users into the Mac AppStore.

Thats it..

Apple lost it's chance to prove "security" with flashback.
 
Apple has a major design flaw in Gatekeeper - you CANNOT leave it turned on and simply add exception for that one application that does not run when Gatekeeper is turned on. It's either all or nothing. So I'd say that this whole security design is useless and Apple does not deserve any laurels for it. But then again, I still suspect that they did not care for security at all and only tried to push more users into the Mac AppStore.

No. Not really. It could be better. But if you turn Gatekeeper off, run VLC once, then turn it back on (to its default "Mac App Store and identified developers" setting) you will be able to continue running your precious VLC, "and" Gatekeeper will warn you of any future apps that violate the rule. That is, after authorizing an app to run once, by you the user, it is authorized forever.
 
Apple has a major design flaw in Gatekeeper - you CANNOT leave it turned on and simply add exception for that one application that does not run when Gatekeeper is turned on. It's either all or nothing. So I'd say that this whole security design is useless and Apple does not deserve any laurels for it. But then again, I still suspect that they did not care for security at all and only tried to push more users into the Mac AppStore.

I disagree with that - the whole point of Gatekeeper is that Apple cannot vouch for third party apps or non verified developers so allowing you to allow through such apps would actually be the design flaw in Gatekeeper. Software installations are still a manual process so it is up to you to decide if a particular app is safe or not - if you disable Gatekeeper you can still elect to install an application or not. Gatekeeper is just more suited to the more paranoid user who doesn't know exactly what they are installing. If I was setting up a Mac for my parents then I would enable Gatekeeper but for myself as I have done - I would disable it.
 
An updated iMac is extremely overdue. Bring on the Ivy Bridge, Retina Display, minumum of 8 GB RAM as standard 27 inch iMac. Now!

The chances are that, if the iMac lineup is indeed updated, then Apple will sell Retina versions of this computer alongside the existing design, just as the current MBP models are being sold. The reason for this is because, like the higher specs and price of the R-MBP, Apple can justify selling a next generation iMac at a higher price whilst maintaining a profit margin with the more expensive components.

It'll be quite a while before the iMac or MBP are phased and out replaced by the Retina counterparts.
 
If that's true, they have a lot of work to do.

If they ship 10.8 GM in its current state, then that's going to be downright embarrassing. There are so many graphical and aesthetic glitches it's not even funny. There are issues with kernel panics on Nvidia hardware, issues with sleep affecting nearly every pre-2012 Mac Pro, ColorSync support is broken, etc.

Their developer forums are literally overflowing with complaints, and every single bug report I've filed (over 23 in total) has been flagged as a duplicate of another bug.

There has to be a second GM. The first is simply too broken. You don't release something with that many "known issues" and confirmed bugs as a retail shipping product. If that's what we have to look forward to- crippled and broken GM releases with patches a few months later (where something is always broken all the time)- then I question the stability of OS X as a reliable platform and Apple's ability to actually push out working code.

-SC

It was the same with Leopard, SL and Lion GM's. It's what a GM is, a copy with many bugs, none of which are too crucial.
 
Day of earning...still cant wait

Apple does not release products the day of the earnings call. Nor do they release products in between the announcement of the earnings call date and the call.

There will be no product releases until AFTER the 24th, so the 9to5 Mac article makes complete sense.
 
Do you have any tests to back up that statement? The few people I've talked to about it say it's about the same in performance.

Safari scrolling is way waster, but obviously don't expect to get better results in Geekbench. That's a hardware test.

Overall system responsiveness have been pretty much the same since SL. Leopard was way more responsive than anything that came afterwards but there's no big difference between SL, Lion and ML in responsiveness. Obviously due to newer graphics drivers each OS ran games better than the previous one. But that's something to be expected.
 
Is this only a upgrade or can I download it to make a clean install?
Also, all revisions of Lion that I got in the torrents and all the previews of Mountain Lion I've tried are buggy in my computer (iMac late 2008 3.06gh C2D and 4gb mem) so what if I pay for this Mountain Lion and it's still buggy?
Does anyone knows if I would be able to get a refund from Apple..?:confused:


Buggy? In my experience 99% of "Lion's problems" are user problems or old software problems. check your system about updates for third party software.
 
The only problem with CS3 is that it no longer connects to Adobe's update servers, you have to download and fetch the available updates manually.

Hasn't been working in Lion for me either since some time back. Not sure it has anything to do with the OS anyway. Probably just Adobe who turned of the servers for CS3 (or something).
 
What???

It's a product you purchase not a cult.

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Thats it..

Apple lost it's chance to prove "security" with flashback.

1-That was not and Apple fault
2-They realized a tool for auto removing it
3-App Store is so good, multi license, endless installs and simply payment

Cmon being a whiner is not cool anymore. GateKeeper is very hand for most users, and devs can sign they apps even if not on mac App Store.
Speaking of this, all users who use VLC could download MPlayerX from MacApp Store which is more modern, updates and faster.
 
They are not the future, just a way for corporations to mine even more of your data and information. That's why they are proclaimed as the future by these corporations. Sadly, too many people repeat it and play along without a second thought.

Exactly what I always say.
 
Ml was good until GM release, clean install and seems to return to slow choppy Lion.
They try to cut 2011 macs make em obsolete.
 
No. Not really. It could be better. But if you turn Gatekeeper off, run VLC once, then turn it back on (to its default "Mac App Store and identified developers" setting) you will be able to continue running your precious VLC, "and" Gatekeeper will warn you of any future apps that violate the rule. That is, after authorizing an app to run once, by you the user, it is authorized forever.

Good to know. Unfortunately, this behavior of Gatekeeper is completely undocumented.
 
I disagree with that - the whole point of Gatekeeper is that Apple cannot vouch for third party apps or non verified developers so allowing you to allow through such apps would actually be the design flaw in Gatekeeper. Software installations are still a manual process so it is up to you to decide if a particular app is safe or not - if you disable Gatekeeper you can still elect to install an application or not. Gatekeeper is just more suited to the more paranoid user who doesn't know exactly what they are installing. If I was setting up a Mac for my parents then I would enable Gatekeeper but for myself as I have done - I would disable it.

Let's just say that we disagree here. Gatekeeper basically is a "Firewall for applications", and the normal way to setup a firewall is to first shut everything and then drill holes in the cheese to let the stuff through that you need or want. An either-or setup is no good here. But as I've learned here, you can apparently disable Gatekeeper temporarily, launch the app, and then re-enable Gatekeeper again and the once launched app still launches afterwards. Not necessarily an ideal way to do it, but it seems to work that way. I would have expected a dialog similar to the "Login items" dialog windows where I can add the apps that I want to use even when Gatekeeper is in place. And I'm pretty sure that Microsoft would have implemented it this way - but the guys in Redmond like customizable software and (hidden and complex) configuration dialogs, Apple plays in a different team.
 
1-That was not and Apple fault
2-They realized a tool for auto removing it
3-App Store is so good, multi license, endless installs and simply payment

Cmon being a whiner is not cool anymore. GateKeeper is very hand for most users, and devs can sign they apps even if not on mac App Store.
Speaking of this, all users who use VLC could download MPlayerX from MacApp Store which is more modern, updates and faster.

The Java vulnerability that flashback used was patched by Oracle in February. Apple released the fix in May that's not exactly a quick reaction time.

On Gatekeeper, did I ask for Gatekeeper "please daddy Apple lock my computer down some more so I'm safe from myself." I know the faithful will say "but it's optional" and they'd be right for now.

Apple is removing optical drives and adding Gatekeeper, it sounds to me like a push to the MAS not safety.
 
Ml was good until GM release, clean install and seems to return to slow choppy Lion.
They try to cut 2011 macs make em obsolete.

...just bought a new SSD and installed clean ML on a mid-2010 MacBook Pro, and it goes like hell! Its a screamer!
 
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