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Apple to Launch OS X Mountain Lion on July 25th?

Really?

BlackMangoTree said:
Mountain Lion is incredibly fast blows away Lion, a must upgrade from the get go.
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Did u do clean install? I think any new OS install will feel faster because of this. Also are u using an SSD? I would like to see a website do a benchmark comparison of 2 clean installs of OS X 10.7 & 10.8.
 
ghostlines said:
Did u do clean install? I think any new OS install will feel faster because of this. Also are u using an SSD? I would like to see a website do a benchmark comparison of 2 clean installs of OS X 10.7 & 10.8.
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I don't think there's actually a benchmark which can measure the responsiveness of two different OS's. Benchmarks usually measure hardware.
 
Sofabutt said:
I've always been slow to adopt apples newest os and os updates. Only retarded or new os x users adopt early updates. But I will never upgrade to mountain lion. I don't need sand boxing or fewer features or iOS like options. Screw apple.
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Seems like you're just slow in general.
 
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Where is my friggin' iMac!
 
I'll probably do what I did for Lion and wait until .2

I don't have anything against Mountain Lion other than that it will probably have bugs because it's a new OS release.
 
pwhitehead said:
Another operating system i wont upgrade to. I purchased lion and wasnt happy with it using final cut pro 7. I'm happy with snow lepard still and wouldnt give it up for the world.
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Final Cut Pro X rocks.

I even taught 5th graders how to use it.

Final Cut Pro 7 scared the 11th graders away

Like they say, "once you go X, you never go back."

OK so no one says that, but it's true.

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zorinlynx said:
I'll probably do what I did for Lion and wait until .2

I don't have anything against Mountain Lion other than that it will probably have bugs because it's a new OS release.
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But don't wait to .3 because .3 traditionally introduces new bugs/features that don't get addressed until .7
 
Sofabutt said:
I've always been slow to adopt apples newest os and os updates. Only retarded or new os x users adopt early updates. But I will never upgrade to mountain lion. I don't need sand boxing or fewer features or iOS like options. Screw apple.
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Since the day the Macintosh saw the light of day we have been reading posts like yours and, quite frankly, it's getting boring.
 
zorinlynx said:
I'll probably do what I did for Lion and wait until .2

I don't have anything against Mountain Lion other than that it will probably have bugs because it's a new OS release.
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Why not wait until .2.5.9?

Operating Systems always have bugs.. otherwise there'd never be patches. If you're always waiting for the newest update you'll always own the oldest version.
 
I like Mountain Lion but...

I only started using Lion late in the day because of all the bad press it was getting and I moved on to developer previews of ML soon after. Virtually all the problems I experienced in Snow Leopard have been dealt with, well done Apple.

Both upgrade and clean installs worked fine. It's been noticeably quicker. Apparently they've done a lot of work on the low-level APIs and memory management which make it faster (according to the WWDC sessions).

While I'm very positive about this release, I do have complaints mostly concerning the Server side. Under the hood many things have changed since Snow Leopard and there's very little documentation or vision going forward. For example concerning the change from MIT to Heimdal Kerberos or from ServerAdmin Tools and WGM to Profile Manager.

While I'm more than happy to use Terminal to configure and manage servers and can accept the need to buy expensive books every year from Apple-insider gurus, I feel that if Apple need to keep moving the goalposts like this then they should be putting much more effort into keeping their documentation bang up to date and generally helping administrators manage these major changes to the underlying system.

When you include the demise of the xserve and the lack of MP upgrades it's easy to understand why many admins (and pros in general) are becoming disillusioned with Apple and moving away. It's a shame because OSX is very close to being an excellent system for profession use, as well as being a major consumer product.

I've seen various 'world's most advanced operating systems' come and go in my time, there's nothing to say Apple wont suffer the same. Come on guys, with all that money you can and should do much better !
 
Maybe new iMacs and "Mac cheaps" with ML, synergized, for television adverts during the Olympic Opening Ceremonies? One can only dream.

And while i'm at it, the iMacs will have easy hard drive access. :)

Still confused, with $1800 refurbs, how I'm supposed to rationalize the new Meh Pro. Lot's of small businesses out there expect to replace their computers every two years. Harkens back to the days when PC's actually became out of date that fast. Also back to the 90's when everyone bought Compaqs that broke in a week. :(

Oh. and yes, FCPX is a pleasure in most respects.
 
New Retina MBP mountain Lion?

I have repeatedly asked Apple when will new supplies of MBP retina have the new OS in situ rather than Lion and update ourselves. I have even asked what happened when Lion was launched, but they seem to have no clue! I want to buy ASAP a MBP with Mountain Lion as the native OS.
Any clues?
 
I wish Apple would focus more on fixing the MacOS than on adding new features and dropping old stuff we need for our work. I still need Rosetta and Classic. Schools and homeschoolers need the vast amount of software available in those arenas. The hardware is plenty powerful enough to handle the emulation, even an iPodTouch can do it. But instead of maintaining forward compatibility Apple keeps abandoning technology left and right while they introduce new buggy upgrades.
 
Seriously? Please tell me you're kidding...

caincha said:
Is this only a upgrade or can I download it to make a clean install?
Also, all revisions of Lion that I got in the torrents and all the previews of Mountain Lion I've tried are buggy in my computer (iMac late 2008 3.06gh C2D and 4gb mem) so what if I pay for this Mountain Lion and it's still buggy?
Does anyone knows if I would be able to get a refund from Apple..?:confused:
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Let's see, you used an unlicensed, pirated copy of Lion that you downloaded from unknown origins, and a beta version of Mountain Lion and you found them to be buggy? Oh my goodness, what is this world coming to?!! How could Apple do this to you?! :rolleyes:

Seriously man, think about that for a moment. You may have to think about it for several moments, I don't know.

However, as long as YOU have a legitimate Apple ID, and OS X 10.6.8 or higher, you should be able to purchase and download a full copy of ML from the Mac App Store (they don't offer it as an "upgrade" per se, there's just one version, "full"). With Lion there are ways you can copy the install files to a flash drive to do a totally clean install with, so the same should hold true for ML. Do a Google search for the instructions.

If you're seriously concerned about bugs (which is hard to believe since you're using a pirated OS), then wait until they release 10.8.1 before you upgrade. That should take care of most of the major early problems and you'll probably find it much more stable than your beta copy.

And I'm pretty sure I read somewhere in the Mac App Store agreement that there are no refunds, all sales are final.
 
benwiggy said:
I have a 2006 C2D iMac, which also won't take Mountain Lion. To be honest, it is getting a bit slow for the tasks I do -- but you're right that it will still do most things reasonably well, like surfing, watching videos, typing up email or Word docs. It even runs Creative Suite, at a push.
So ... why the need for 10.8? Your hardware will keep running Lion as long as the hardware holds together. No one is forcing you to upgrade.

As for whether "you know" that your Mac will cope with ML -- well, who knows? It may be that there is a valid technical reason relating to the graphics cards in those machines. As far as I know, Apple hasn't actually explained the rationale for their decision: it is sites like this that have drawn their own conclusions.
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Honestly, I am still running Snow Leopard, and have been waiting for Mountain Lion with hope that Mountain Lion will do for Lion what Snow Leopard did for Leopard. I realize that I can run Lion and get support for a while yet, but what I don't like is the fact that they are introducing features that I could use with my other apple products (iPhone and apple TV) that should work without too much trouble on my laptop, but yet they won't bring them to Lion or Snow Leopard. They are using software in many ways to obsolete perfectly functional hardware. Yes, your iMac, or my MacBook Pro aren't going to be as fast as a brand new one, but they will still perform all the functions, albeit a little slower. The only things that take a long time are video encoding on mine, and I just do that on my Windows desktop with a quad core anyhow.
 
umbilical said:
how? I want a clean! install
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+1...

Same boat :eek:

I want to also do a clean ( custom install ) , so is all you have to do is download and put the pkg. on a USB Drive and then what ?

Or do you goto disc utility and make it a bootable drive ?

If not then how will you have the option to get to DU before install ?

All I know is that to do a real clean install you need to have something bootable .

Right ?

If wrong then help :D

Thanks ,

O____BTW:

I`m thinking about getting a new Macbook Pro and every time I get a new Mac I always like to do a custom install , so without any software that used to come with new Mac`s how can I reinstall iLife ( custom all I use are iPhoto and GB ) in my new MBP [ if purchased ] :confused:

TY

Me 
 
umbilical said:
how? I want a clean! install
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I think you can install from the dmg to any drive. By the way, I installed as a Lion upgrade and it was more like a software update. Zero problems and saved me tons of time. M<L is not such a drastic update as in the past.

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Jacaranda said:
I have repeatedly asked Apple when will new supplies of MBP retina have the new OS in situ rather than Lion and update ourselves. I have even asked what happened when Lion was launched, but they seem to have no clue! I want to buy ASAP a MBP with Mountain Lion as the native OS.
Any clues?
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I'm guessing only the ones that ship after the release date.
 
BlackMangoTree said:
Mountain Lion is incredibly fast blows away Lion, a must upgrade from the get go.
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Thats certainly good news. I have an MBP-13" (circa Mid-2010) and it runs Lion reasonably well. Was going to sell it for a new MBP 15" (Classic) but will wait it out to see how much of a boost it provides now, and see if I can stretch another year or two usage out of it.

Anyone launch VMWare Fusion 4 on Mountain Lion? Info on this is pretty scarce at the moment. I assume it will be on par with what I'm seeing with 10.7 now, but any improvements would be welcome.
 
dbam987 said:
Thats certainly good news. I have an MBP-13" (circa Mid-2010) and it runs Lion reasonably well. Was going to sell it for a new MBP 15" (Classic) but will wait it out to see how much of a boost it provides now, and see if I can stretch another year or two usage out of it.

Anyone launch VMWare Fusion 4 on Mountain Lion? Info on this is pretty scarce at the moment. I assume it will be on par with what I'm seeing with 10.7 now, but any improvements would be welcome.
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does not work no parallels virtual software .

Virualbox is the only working windows emulator. its iffy at times and does not like linux vms and tends to crash.

IT can take vms from paraless and vm. Was disapointed to be honest. Will vm 5 will be soon now.
I used xp a crap ton in virtual box for two days and its alright, if you dont mind going opensourced route
 
This cat would look much better if she was smiling...she looks too serious, and too sad...like "Why did Apple steal all my kittens??"
 
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