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Apple to Launch Ringtone Service?
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And that's irrelevant; Nokia doesn't run a music store and isn't bound by contracts to record labels like Apple is. It's unfortunate that Apple's position prevents them from releasing a free iPhone music service, but we're barking up the wrong tree to criticize Apple. Write your congressman and demand that the federal government strenghten the right of first sale.
Hahaha, Are you serious? This is the cell phone industry you are talking about, do you really think they are gonna pass on the chance to make a buck?
Yes, actually. If Apple made the rules of the arrangement, which most likely they have and they HAVE agreed to, putting in a clause that says they are not welcome to make songs sold over iTunes as Ringtones is, in one way, shape or form, their fault. Period.
If any of you have been scared of hacking your phone, don't fear. I have used the GUI installer app and installed apps right on my phone with no problems or errors. It's automatic and easy. One of the apps thats availible in the list is SendSong, it can move anything in your library to ringtones directory, or email the song to someone directly from the phone.
Install Installer - OSX universal
This app will give you a list of other apps to install.
Install Launcher - "spaces" like virtual desktop, used for displaying all the 3rd party apps in one place.
Install Community Sources then SendSong, MobileTerminal, OpenBSD, and NES and ApolloIM and others if you want.
Very easy, you won't brick your phone, I promise you.
Best part is, Installer.app acts like software update and will easily install updates for apps when availible.
Install Installer - OSX universal
This app will give you a list of other apps to install.
Install Launcher - "spaces" like virtual desktop, used for displaying all the 3rd party apps in one place.
Install Community Sources then SendSong, MobileTerminal, OpenBSD, and NES and ApolloIM and others if you want.
Very easy, you won't brick your phone, I promise you.
Best part is, Installer.app acts like software update and will easily install updates for apps when availible.
While I agree that paying to edit a song into a ringtone is lame some of you guys are getting kinda nuts...
I mean, if they introduce this service at a cost wouldn't that be better than not introducing it at all?
And maybe for 50 cents or whatever we can go download pre-edited ringtones. If they're cheaper than songs that's a plus.
However, with this service if you have to download a song then pay to edit it, that stinks.
I mean, if they introduce this service at a cost wouldn't that be better than not introducing it at all?
And maybe for 50 cents or whatever we can go download pre-edited ringtones. If they're cheaper than songs that's a plus.
However, with this service if you have to download a song then pay to edit it, that stinks.
A lot of people here are knocking paying for a ringtone at all when you have to admit we're not the average cell user. The general cell owner doesn't know how to rip, convert, or edit their music for use on a cell phone. It is a profitable industry and that's why. Sure, we're angry but we're not the one's that will matter. I would be willing to pay 99 cents for a ringtone if it's a song I don't own. I think the usual price is about $3 on cingular. So 99 cents probably wouldn't seem unreasonable and i'm sure they would sell well on itunes.
I think they need to offer a + option though using your song history as a reference where something you've purchased has a ringtone button or whatever pizazz they want to put on that and it would be maybe 10 cents? You would have a window pop up and you could edit out your 30 seconds, hit done and it would download and i'm sure be in some submenu under the iphone option. From then on you have rights to that song as a ringtone and could go back on the store and re edit for free. I'd be cool with that. Hell do you change your ringtone so often that 50 cents a month would break the bank? Hell maybe they could do a tonepack, make 4 a month for a dollar? Whatever the pricing may be if it's how i described i'll pay up. I mean, I paid 600 for a phone, I can't be complaining about a few bucks when I'm supposed to look like a baller.
If Apple thinks they are going to charge me to use MY music that I have ripped from MY 20 dollar cd's they are nuts!! I will start using all of the different hacks before I pay!!!
Although I don't like the idea of them charging to make a ringtone from music already in your library, people also have to realize that you don't own the music.
It is not YOUR music that you ripped. You own media (the cd) which gives you certain rights to do certain things with the artist's music.
Just because you bought the cd doesn't mean you can do anything you want with the music that's on it (such as copying it and giving it to all your friends).
I am using any song as ringtone right now it is great and was very easy to install!!
I am using any song as ringtone right now it is great and was very easy to install!!
Thank you for quoting me and making it look like i copy and give the music i buy to my friends. I never said that.
That's not what I was implying. I was just using that as an example.
I quoted you because of the use of "MY music" which it really isn't.
And then complain that they "just paid 99 cents two weeks ago to buy a ring tone and now Apple made it free"...
If this is true, then the original story might be read to only apply to songs purchased on iTMS, leaving open the possibility that other Quicktime files may not require the additional payment.
Personally I think being able to use Garageband compositions as ring tones would be pretty slick.
ALL I WANT IS A TEXT MESSAGE ALERT THAT I CAN HEAR!
yes. I was shouting. Do you hear me Steve? No? Well that's ok, I can't hear my iphone either. F'n'A. How tough is it?
yes. I was shouting. Do you hear me Steve? No? Well that's ok, I can't hear my iphone either. F'n'A. How tough is it?
Whatev
Im sure the fee will just be applied to songs with a current ACC code on them. If you import your own cd's, I dont think you will get hit with the charge.
Also if it turns out I'm wrong...im sure we will have a very easy "back door" option in iTunes thanks to the great hackers out there.
Im sure the fee will just be applied to songs with a current ACC code on them. If you import your own cd's, I dont think you will get hit with the charge.
Also if it turns out I'm wrong...im sure we will have a very easy "back door" option in iTunes thanks to the great hackers out there.
Wouldn't that be a trip. Though I've gotta say, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the music industry made it illegal for some obscure reason. Good 'ole corporate activity.
The music industry's position is that ringtones are a public performance. When you buy a CD, you buy a license for private performance only. So you need to pay additional licensing fees to use the same music for a public performance.
It will be interesting to see if this has any effect on Efiko Software's iPhoneRingToneMaker (which works absolutely great)... well see what happens.
Babya Logic is a freeware tool for Windows to make ringtones. Just import the files into iTunes, and convert from there.
So since I buy a ringtone for Public performance, does that mean I can amplify it and hold a concert?
Or does it mean I have to pay additional fees to be able to blast my cd player in my car, because people outside can hear it....?
Just because it may be the music industry's position doesn't mean it's anyone elses. People have subjected others in public to the music playing on their portable players via leaky headphones for years without paying additional licence fees for a public performance.
Charging to use it as a ring tone when you've already paid for a recording of the song is a rip off, pure and simple.
Lame
It is lame of Apple to charge for ringtone conversion.
Almost as lame as using a song as a ringtone in the firstplace.
Is there anything more annoying than being forced to listen to someone else's awful music every time their phone rings?
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It is lame of Apple to charge for ringtone conversion.
Almost as lame as using a song as a ringtone in the firstplace.
Is there anything more annoying than being forced to listen to someone else's awful music every time their phone rings?
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yeah me too! i dont own an iphone (im an aussie) but i certainly hope i wouldnt have to buy a tune on itunes just to use it as a ringtone!
