i'm not surprised about this. i hope Apple profits from this, but i won't be buying any ringtones
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Apple to Launch Ringtone Service?
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Another thumbs down for charging for something you own. Moreover, a ring tone is what 3-9secs. That's fair use territory anyway. Seriously why do we have to be nickel and dimed at every turn. This is just going to encourage hacking even more.
Well, nobody says that the media had to come from a CD. There are loads of singers and musicians in this world who create their own content.
What if I play electric guitar and use Garage Band to record my own ring tone? It is hard to believe that I owe money to ANYONE, in that case, to put the clip that I own the rights to on a phone that I own.
The minority doesn't seem to matter anymore though. Nobody cares about the right of a person to record their own ringtone, just like it was okay to shut down file sharing networks because *some* of the material was copyrighted. I believe some countries tax blank CDs just because you MIGHT decide to copy music illegally?
Why not just throw everyone in jail now because we MIGHT break the law at some point!
I agree, and I certainly don't share their position. I'm just attempting to explain why the music industry wants providers to charge higher prices for ringtones.
I'm in total agreement with you on this point. We should definitely have the right to create, record, and upload our own ringtones if we want to.
I just downloaded the trial for iToner and iPhoneRingtoneMaker. Used the latter to create the ringtone (cropung the file with fading, in parallels) and the first to transfer the tones to the iPhone without hacking. Works like a charm. Lets see, if Apple wants me to pay for my inported and legally bought CDs than I will pay 15 bucks to Ambrosia and 10 backs for the other...
iPhone Destined to be Hacked
Exactly. Apple's deal with AT&T has really softened things for a phone EVERYONE thought would stick it to the telecoms for $5 songs and $3 ringtones. You'd think that bypassing the over-the-air downloads would let you use existing mp3s as ringtones... but nooooh, Apple had to deal with both AT&T and the labels, which are forcing Steve Jobs into this so they can keep their other revenues.
The bottom line is, Apple likes to appear they swing both ways, for their benefit. It's becoming pretty easy to make a free and cool ringtone (iToner), DVD rips (Handbrake) and a few apps (iFuntastic).
If there's ever something good to come out of it, it's that we're potentially looking at the most hacked gadget of all time. Now, if someone can figure out how let it make free calls...
Exactly. Apple's deal with AT&T has really softened things for a phone EVERYONE thought would stick it to the telecoms for $5 songs and $3 ringtones. You'd think that bypassing the over-the-air downloads would let you use existing mp3s as ringtones... but nooooh, Apple had to deal with both AT&T and the labels, which are forcing Steve Jobs into this so they can keep their other revenues.
The bottom line is, Apple likes to appear they swing both ways, for their benefit. It's becoming pretty easy to make a free and cool ringtone (iToner), DVD rips (Handbrake) and a few apps (iFuntastic).
If there's ever something good to come out of it, it's that we're potentially looking at the most hacked gadget of all time. Now, if someone can figure out how let it make free calls...
Except Mac users have been pretty consistent criticizing verizon for charging extra for ringtones.. It would be hypocrytical to now agree it's a good thing to charge to turn a song into a ringtone after you have bought the song. Know your history.. this has never been cool with apple fans
Why you hope apple profits from this?. You also hope verizon profits from selling ringtones at $2 a pop?. Isn't this the same thing.. $1 per song, $1 to turn it into a ringtone.. how is this different?.
i hope apple charges $100/ringtone, eventhough i'm sure they will not... however, i'm pleased as punch that they will charge for this service... it should reduce the amount of annoying ringtones in public...
Yes it is a great app. Sure, I paid $10 for it, but I made a lot more then 10 ringtones with it, so the cost per ringtone is a good deal better then what Apple is offering (and I begrudge Apple not one wit for their offering).
I just bought iToner, as well, since I am trying to stay within OS-X (I bought Efko's product when I was on Windows).
Is this the same music industry that seems to think that ripping a CD is the same as stealing it? They can have an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's legally valid. It might be, but it might not be.
I also really don't give a hoot about ringtones. Ringtones are for teenage boys and girls in my opinion.
I would say most European countries tax sales of blank CDs but I am only know for sure that it is the case in France, Germany and Switzerland. And there are also taxes on empty tapes, VCRs, copy machines and portable music players (but I don't think on the paper that goes into the copy machines).
By taxing blank CDs, these countries implicitly allow you burn CDs with music ripped from CDs. By the same token you are allowed to make copies of pages of a book, eg, in a library, because the copyright holder gets compensated for by the tax on the copy machine.
Nope. Only EMI and its subsidiaries are part of the iTunes Plus thingy.
I wouldn't completely rule out an announcement on Tuesday though. The whole hidden ringtone graphic people found on June 29 makes one wonder iTunes will receive a minor upgrade to support this. Ringtones, meh.
