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Apple to Launch Standalone 'Passwords' App in iOS 18 and macOS 15
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That provided access to a Store? That you could buy things from? Or subscribe to things from? Try again.
That was merely an option. You could, as we all did, rip your existing CD collection into iTunes at no cost.
I welcome an Apple entry to sharpen up competition and provide another option for folks
But I personally like to keep my critical services operating independently.
I prefer to pay for Fastmail and 1Password and use services that are optimized to do the #1 critical feature as their only business.
But I personally like to keep my critical services operating independently.
I prefer to pay for Fastmail and 1Password and use services that are optimized to do the #1 critical feature as their only business.
I have the same set up. If I didn’t have 1Password for Families when my daughter got locked out her Apple ID, she would have been screwed:
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How’s that take away from the fact that iTunes was a completely free service unless you chose to buy optional things from it?
And there are many people who didn’t buy CDs
You said no cost. The cds are a cost to someone on one way or another.
When was iTunes a free service? What did it have that was free? I’ve used iTunes side day one and never remember anytime free. They released songs for .99 when it was launched.
You are completely missing the point. Apple didn’t release iTunes for Windows users out of the goodness of their hearts. It was a store. Sure, you didn’t HAVE to buy anything off it and could use it freely, but it was still a gateway for sales. So again, if Apple releases a new Passwords app for Windows users, what is their endgame? They’ll ONLY do it for a financial reason. I’m skeptical it will exist solely to facilitate syncing passwords for Windows users who have iDevices, but I’ll be glad to be proven wrong if/when formally announced.
You mean like the existing iCloud sync for Windows?
That works even if you don't pay for iCloud (just have free/included tier w/ iDevices)
Exactly. But iCloud is a subscription service past the meager free tier. It’s a GATEWAY to being monetized. So again and again… how do you think Apple will monetize Passwords?
CDs weren’t bought from Apple. And lots of people made CDs of downloaded music, or copied from friends. iTunes played all of this music - for free.
Yes, you could pay them but for an additional service. It doesn’t change the fact that it was free to install and free to use.
No it’s you missing the point. I didn’t say iTunes had no option for spending money.
But it was free to use, and spending money was entirely optional. It wasn’t a case that you had to spend to unlock features or a new tier either.
I’m not missing the point. What you did was interject yourself into a question that I posed to another member who stated this would not be a sub service for various reasons. I was rebutting his rationale and you are taking this off course. I could have phrased my statement more clearly to suit you, but regardless, neither you nor anyone has addressed my stance.
Passwords is probably just the KeyChain Access app rebranded and made to look friendlier. Don't overthink it. It will be part of the OS not some add on.
Will only be part of the Apple One Premium tier imo. $65 per month, if you stop paying they imessage all of your passwords to your contacts list.
Why does it matter who you were originally replying to? This is a public forum and you asked a question to which I provided an answer. There is nothing “off course” about it and frankly it seems like you’re getting defensive for not liking the answer.
Here is what you said:
So I told you when Apple released something that was wholly free to Microsoft users.
Yes we can argue around the houses about the fact that iTunes had options to pay Apple, but the point was, and remains, that iTunes was wholly free to install and use. Paying Apple a single penny was 100% optional and there was not a free tier, nor limited features for not paying.
You could import your music, listen to it, organise it, rate it, change album art and meta descriptions and it was 100% free to do so.
Multiplatform as in Mac/iPhone/iPad, or as in Mac/Windows? Or Safari/Chrome/Firefox? Or all of the above? Keychain already syncs across all my Apple devices - my only gripe about it is that it doesn't talk to Firefox. What additional features would make it "full featured"? This is a sincere question - I'm quite content with Keychain, but all the commentary under this article has me wondering if I am missing something.
So allow me to point out that iTunes is NOT wholly free to use, as I said. Not to Windows users. Not to anyone. It has content locked behind a paywall. Anyway, enough. I'm not playing this game. You are being petty and argumentative. You know and knew full well what I was getting at. Done here.
There already is a chrome extension to autofill iCloud passwords. From the comments on it, it’s not super stable.
chromewebstore.google.com
Hopefully they make ot better over time. Given Apple’s walled garden history, I’m not super hopeful.
iCloud Passwords - Chrome Web Store
iCloud Passwords lets you fill passwords from iCloud Keychain when signing in to websites using Chrome.
chromewebstore.google.com
Hopefully they make ot better over time. Given Apple’s walled garden history, I’m not super hopeful.
1Password requires your 1Password account password to unlock its vault. Either you provide that by typing it in, or the 1Password software gets it from your Keychain. Fingerprint/face alone can't unlock your 1Password vault.
"My keychain isn’t even on, and I [have] nothing stored in it" - that''s not correct. Launch the "Keychain Access" app on your Mac and you should see a lot in there. Note that the Keychain itself is different from the option to save web site logins to the Keychain.
Yes I know, but it’s not stored anywhere on your device for Face ID to work.
I was talking about iOS.
And my keychain on my Mac has nothing listed for 1Password or Agilebits.
1Password Shares?
Apple plans to introduce a new Passwords app in iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS 15, reports Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. The Passwords app, which will serve as an alternative to third-party apps like 1Password and LastPass, will provide a simpler way for iPhone, iPad, and Mac users to access their stored login information.
There's already a Passwords feature built into Apple's operating systems, but it is hidden in the Settings app and it can be a little difficult to find for those who are not familiar with it. Apple has been gradually introducing new password features, such as storing logins and passwords, supporting one-time login codes, and offering password generation options directly in Safari.
Like the existing Passwords section in Settings, the dedicated Passwords app will be built on iCloud Keychain, Apple's feature that is able to sync login and password details across Apple devices. It will support all of the features that Passwords in Settings supports, and it will also work on the Vision Pro and Windows PCs.
The app includes logins and passwords for websites, Wi-Fi network passwords, and Passkeys, a feature that uses Face ID or Touch ID to log into websites instead of a password. Data from the app can be automatically inserted into websites and apps when a user logs in.
Apple's aim with the Passwords app is to encourage customers to use stronger passwords and avoid repeating passwords for multiple websites and services. Apple will be competing with longtime third-party password services like 1Password, and the company does plan to allow customers to import their passwords from other services.
Apple plans to unveil Passwords during next Monday's WWDC keynote event.
Article Link: Apple to Launch Standalone 'Passwords' App in iOS 18 and macOS 15
Actually I don’t know what you were getting at. But you are fundamentally wrong to suggest iTunes wasn’t free. It was.
You can pretend otherwise all you want, but the paid features of iTunes were the optional rental or buying of music - not for additional iTunes features.
Sorry you think it’s “petty and argumentative” to answer your question and explain why it’s an answer. Perhaps engaging in a public forum isn’t for you if you’re so thin skinned.
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And if one can store payment info #'s, passport/ID data, locked note - for misc stuff it may happen for me. Oh and export to CSV.