Certainly not. I am mostly happy with my Apple devices. The DMA will make them even better.
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Overall they won’t, imo, but we will all see in a fair amount of time.
Already made them worse. And will continue to do so.
That's pure speculation. But even if it was the case. It's Apple's fault if they don't know how to prioritize their resources. They can just postpone some new thing like mirroring or the silly tinting features, which nobody really asked for.
This is code that will be used in different jurisdictions as well. It's just a matter of time.
A rational person would also find it ridiculous to compare smartphones to game consoles. There are good reasons why iOS and Android are subject to the new rules. Everyone is using them, and you need them to organize your daily life.
Anything more complicated than "Don't lockdown the phones you make."?
Well, hot dog, that's exactly my point.
That was me clarifying what the common position is regarding what counts as anri-competitive. My reason for supporting a ban on lockdowns is user freedom.
Yeah. And?
Okay? I'm not sure what your point is in the context of the discussion.
Again, what does that have to do with the conversation I was having? The person that I was responding to said no platform should be able prevent third party stores on their platform. I disagree. It appears you do to.
Yes.
Yep. I just think no reasonable person could agree with you.
Maybe put a little thought into all the platforms that exist and how ridiculous it would be to expect all of them to add support for third party stores.
Actually, I would say, that much more customers, even in EU, is asking for mirroring or the silly tinting features, than for 3rd party app stores. I for one, would much prefer mirroring, than 3rd party app stores, so it isn't nobody anymore
Tinting maybe 😉.Actually, I would say, that much more customers, even in EU, is asking for mirroring or the silly tinting features, than for 3rd party app stores. I for one, would much prefer mirroring, than 3rd party app stores, so it isn't nobody anymore
But to use mirroring you would need a Mac. I'm pretty confident, that the overwhelming majority of iPhone users does not even own one.
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Mac OS desktop EU marketshare is 16%.
Mobile OS EU marketshare is 31.5%.
So just over half of the iPhone users probably have a Mac... hardly "overwhelming majority" as stated.
I suspect many people are overrating the short-term benefits (third party app stores) while underrating the possible long-term ramifications of the DMA (disincentivising Apple from offering the integrated platform that they are so renowned for within the EU).
You will win some, and you will lose some, and we will have to see whether the pros outweigh the cons ultimately.
I'm not sure if percentages are similar in the EU but according to U.S. CIRP data from 2021, around 37% of iPhone owners own a Mac.
iPhone users drawn to iPad but not Mac or Apple's home devices, study finds | AppleInsider
With a sticky software and services ecosystem, iPhone has proven to be an effective gateway device to other Apple products, but that pull has its limits, a new study shows.
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It's not my case I own almost all Apple devices, but maybe we would have to do a census to see the penetration it has in the market that Apple users at least have two different devices!
US iPhone owners are a higher percent I believe than EU.I'm not sure if percentages are similar in the EU but according to U.S. CIRP data from 2021, around 37% of iPhone owners own a Mac.
iPhone users drawn to iPad but not Mac or Apple's home devices, study finds | AppleInsider
With a sticky software and services ecosystem, iPhone has proven to be an effective gateway device to other Apple products, but that pull has its limits, a new study shows.
And you can comfortably (although you miss out on nice features like AirDrop) use Windows instead.
If 37% is still accurate and U.S. iPhone owners are even a higher percentage of Mac owners than EU, that would make the other poster's comment about "the overwhelming majority of iPhone users does not even own one [a Mac]" fairly accurate.
Recommend everyone participating in this thread read Gruber's latest article.
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The iOS Continental Drift Widens
What’s happening with Apple Intelligence and iPhone Screen Sharing this year is what I expect to happen with every new product or service Apple creates that integrates with iOS: they will come late, or never, to the EU.
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overwhelming is a vague term
and it was used to exaggerate. I provided actual data. use that as you wish...
No. I'm saying that device manufacturers should not be allowed to lockdown the devices they make. That is not "forcing a platform to support third-party stores".
I would disagree. I see no reason game consoles should not also be forced to open up and allow normal software installation.
I care less about that since software that features signature checks can be patched.
I suspect this feature is coming with iOS 18.2, as I think there’s a screen inside Settings App on the latest beta dedicated to default apps.
Hopefully this will end the big dialog each time I want to open certain types of documents.
Hopefully this will end the big dialog each time I want to open certain types of documents.
you're just arbitrarily drawing the line.
if it's a platform, it should abide by rules made for a platform. just because you don't care about game consoles doesn't mean the rules should be relaxed. in fact, arguably, plenty of people spend more $$$$ and time on game consoles than they do on iPhones.