But I don't want that. Netflix already does that and I hate it. I'm hardly ever in the mood to watch my Netflix queue consistently, for example. In fact, most of the time I'm searching through various categories and it sucks. That said, I'm fairly sure that the preview sections for Movies and TV Shows show you immediate content. Although I'm not sure how that's organized.
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Apple to Open Up Apple TV's Universal Search to Additional Apps via New API
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But they're never going to separate. Users can go away from cable but they can't really escape ISPs. Nor can you really expect businesses - which operate under the modus operandi of profits - to separate.
Amazon won't sell the AppleTV and you expect Apple to carry Amazon Prime? DTFO
I can use my unlimited data T-Mobile account with an iPhone to stream any content to my TV. I have 50Mbps down in my home from T-Mobile. No need for a cable company to provide internet. $40/month
of course I'm not. apple's metadata is nothing special.
You can pass legislation that prohibits ISP from having any type of investment in content that passes through their pipes. Show me a candidate that would break up NBC and Comcast and I'll show you a voter ready to begin listening.
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if the third party apps actually put more data in.
Blades, has any developer with the new ATV tried it yet?? That feature alone would be why I would purchase or remain with my ATV 3g. Would someone PLEASE try it out!!
Thankx!
I'm referring to you having more metadata than Apple. There is absolutely no way you can have more metadata than Apple.
i know what you're referring to. the answer is still yes. and yes, there IS absolutely a way we have more metadata than apple. what's special about their metadata compared to any metadata one can download from imdb, themoviedb, wiki, freebase,movieposterdb etc etc etc? then consider that one can merge metadata from all services mentioned above. apple can't touch that.
and you clearly don't know anything about it and just being an apple fanboy.
No one is being an Apple fanboy. As I said I'm replying to your original statement which would be incorrect. You do not have more metadata than Apple on your home servers, as that would imply you have more content than Apple themselves.
Perhaps you ment to say you have more metadata in the content you already own when compared to the same content on Apple servers.
Also try avoiding calling people you don't know names and focus more on the wording of your statements.
If you call that an example of "implicitly endorsing possible piracy," they already do that by providing Home Sharing capability at all. All people are asking for is that Universal Search include Home Sharing content (which Apple already allows.)
For people who create their own videos in iMovie, etc. you could just push the Siri button and ask for "Jane's 10th Birthday Video" or whatever, it doesn't have to be piracy. Apple provides a nice end-to-end experience for video and photo sharing/viewing, this would simply be a part of it. Did the original iPod endorse piracy?
Whether it's feasible or not, I'm not sure as it might depend on how the Siri back-end service works, etc. But I don't think there's any sort of PR reason relating to piracy to exclude it.
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Someone has to budge first, Apple isn't going to be happy not having its product on BY FAR the largest online retailer
But Vudu shouldn't be stopped, Vudu doesn't have hardware, no reason why Vudu would ever block itself on Apple TV
I don't expect it, but it would be a selling point for the Apple TV vs Amazon. But with everyone trying to protect their "territory" I don't expect Apple, Amazon, Hulu or Roku to cut a deal even if it gives them a marketing and publicity advantage.
It's not really unlimited in the sense that it's not unlimited unthrottled data, so gl with that.
Yeah, good luck with that legislation getting passed. That sets a dangerous precedent.
I see your point and it makes sense to some extent. Although, Home Sharing itself is on shaky legal ground and Apple tries to get around it by warning users to only use home content for personal uses. However, think about what Home Sharing is - just a rebranded way of playing content you already have. Apple doesn't signify that your content is on par with verified content which it implicitly could be doing if it allowed Universal Search. Home Sharing itself is neutral, but additional services are not. Regardless, we come back to the problem of recognizable content. With the API, it's still up to the provider to implement Universal Search correctly. From a technical standpoint, it comes down to Apple recognizing metadata from personal content. Possible, but it's unlikely to be implemented initially.
Apple might not be happy, but what does that have to do with anything? At the very least, with the new Apple TV, Apple isn't blocking anything. It's up to Amazon now.
Except that I think Apple would take 30% off the top of all revenue that Vudu would make through its Apple TV app. Does Vudu even have a 30% profit margin on the movies and shows that it rents and sells? It very well may be that Vudu couldn't make any money through an ATV app. That said, perhaps they'll create a "view-only" version of their app for AT3 that doesn't allow any transactions to be made through it but lets you view purchases and rentals made through Vudu.com or the Vudu app on other devices.
For those saying they want to see an Amazon Instant Video app on ATV, Apple's 30% tax is undoubtedly one of the issues involved there too.
Yeah, that's true, Vudu could choose to do that. Regular pricing tends to be pretty uniform across all those SVOD services. For instance, the movie Spy rents in HD for $5.99 on both iTunes and Vudu right now. So if Vudu marked that up 30% in its hypothetical ATV app, it would instead cost $7.79. Why would consumers pay $7.79 to rent a movie when they could get it for $5.99 from iTunes (which they probably already have an account set up with) right on the same device with virtually indistinguishable image quality? Consumers would quickly learn to avoid Vudu on their ATV because they rent/sell all the same stuff as iTunes but, for some reason, the prices are always WAY higher on Vudu.