Never mind the possibility that the company has been acquired or become defunct through other means, and the software couldn’t be supported even if they wanted to.
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Apple to Phase Out 32-Bit Mac Apps Starting in January 2018
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For absolutely no reason whatsoever. Comments like that are only second behind trolling as far as usefulness goes.
I am sure they won't be since they know exactly the piece of the hundreds of pie charts they collect and create that this will impact.
Not smart aleck at all. Sadly, it's the way things are here. What I care about is that situation. But I immediately lose respect for people and have no use for their views who find it necessary to sink to using hackneyed juvenile remarks.
Yeah, that's the biggest problem people are going to have ... deprecated software that has no possibility of being updated.
This is different. It's not "we reworked the network library and it's so much more efficient and developers need to use the new API". It's not "We locked down how we handle memory so programs can no longer fiddle with the memory in other apps" (I had a few apps like QuicKeys that never really recovered from that change.) The reason for breaking old software was for a major improvement for the user in terms of performance or security.
This 32/64 bit is for the convenience of Apple.
Oh, and the argument that people are making of "These are the reasons you should be using Windows" - that's NOT a good argument for Apple.
Awesome, so I guess you're on board with banning any mention to Android and Windows on these forums?
Nice straw man. What I said totally can be translated as "I don't like open discussion on an open forum."
Then please, do tell me how my comment was problematic. I was just pointing out that sticking with Apple and expecting them to put any effort towards backwards compatibility is like repeatedly banging your head against a wall and getting mad because your head hurts. I don't have any sympathy for people who aren't willing to consider competing platforms that might be better for their needs over the long term.Nice straw man. What I said totally can be translated as "I don't like open discussion on an open forum."
Apple has, in the past, been the environment of "it just works".
Why do you want Apple to push into the territory of "if you're not running the latest version, with the latest hardware, it just won't work"?
When you're talking about an office suite, it's not that big a deal for most people. When you're talking about a $30k medical practice management suite, it's not quite the same ballgame. And when you're talking about $150k+ industrial production machines, you're reinforcing the concept that buying Apple is not a good call.
And yes, in the last 5 years, I dealt with a Mac Plus that controlled a $500k CNC machine. As far as I know, it still does.
I have already contacted Thereminator's devs. Such a fun little app that I've even used in live performance. Going to be sad to see that one fade away.
C'mon devs!!
C'mon devs!!
I use a lot of old abandoned fractal graphics programs for special effects that I will loose. I had to abandon tons of PowerPC apps already. I maintain an old MacBookPro just for PhotoGridX. Fontographer is another I don't want to abandon.
As far as being new here, I placed my order on my first Mac on January 25th 1984.
Now I don't look so stupid when I said that Apple needs to throw older Mac hardware and iPhones under the bus.
A 2017/18 MacOS should only be supported up to four year old hardware. Otherwise it's a nightmare for Apple to maintain support.
I know how Apple can nix all this legacy code and hardware, drop intel support and move on to Desktops and Laptops that only run on the A12xFusion chipset. Problem solved for Apple.
Maybe 10.13 should be the last macOS for the intel platform. They should make this announcement and get it over with. Let the old hardware and iPhone die from obselesence incompatible LTE versions and expired certificates so it just stops running in the next four years. Just as the original iPhone stopped working last year as Att nixed it from their networks.
A 2017/18 MacOS should only be supported up to four year old hardware. Otherwise it's a nightmare for Apple to maintain support.
I know how Apple can nix all this legacy code and hardware, drop intel support and move on to Desktops and Laptops that only run on the A12xFusion chipset. Problem solved for Apple.
Maybe 10.13 should be the last macOS for the intel platform. They should make this announcement and get it over with. Let the old hardware and iPhone die from obselesence incompatible LTE versions and expired certificates so it just stops running in the next four years. Just as the original iPhone stopped working last year as Att nixed it from their networks.
And I can get 32GB of DDR4 2400 SODIMM RAM for $216.87 on Amazon right now. Several hundred MB of RAM is utterly irrelevant on modern hardware. (Yes, I know I can't get modern hardware in a current MBP, that's why I'm not buying a new one until I can.)
Actually apple has abandoned technology for decades. Ethernet ports,serial ports, floppy drives, printer ports, power PC, USB 3 type a ports, and the old iPod connector. Apple provides ways with adapters to still use the retiring tech for a while whether physical or software CPU emulation, but ultimately its gone.
Perhaps they should give more notice but this is not unusual for them in my opinion.
Perhaps they should give more notice but this is not unusual for them in my opinion.
Add me to the list of unhappy users. I write books professionally, and I have just used Pages 4.3 (which is 32-bit) to do the layouts for ten highly illustrated books (because the 'new' Pages is so dumbed down that it is useless for the task). I also do conference presentations, and use Keynote 5.3 (which is 32-bit) because the new Keynote lacks features and comparabilities I need. I maintain a 10.5 GB website using iWeb (which is 32-bit) because no other website app yet has such a great good a combination of power and ease-of-use. I use MS Office (Word and Excel, which are 32-bit) because I refuse to be sucked into subscription apps. The easy solution is not to upgrade my OS when 32-bit compatibility is killed, but unfortunately even Macs aren't immortal and they need replacing eventually.
Yes, you do look stupid when you say that.
Can you make a business case for not supporting 5 year old phones? Sort of.
Can you make a business case for not supporting 5 year old computers? Computers that cost thousands of dollars?
Not if you want to keep selling computers.
Apple sells computers for premium prices. That's fine, IF there's actual value in that. I have always been able to make a case to my clients that their investment in a Mac would pay off, both in lower support costs over the life of the computer and in longevity of the hardware. Old Macs have historically had a higher resale value than any other computers.
Drop support after 4 years? That resale value goes to almost nothing, the business case for spending more money up front goes away, and I can't convince anybody to buy a Mac over the Windoze garbage they're using now.
I get pretty tired of hearing this tight fisted, bitching about small change for apps.
No one thinks anything of chucking that same amount of money at a street beggar or busker.
But ask them to pony up for an app they really want..?
I'd like to see ALL apps having an annual re-charge/purchase because only through proper funding can we expect proper quality and not advert riddle crap-ware.
I really hope you're joking.
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I get tired of people thinking that everyone has money to throw at things like this.
I believe Alice is in steam for windows at least. Got it for like $5
Problem solved.
Problem solved.