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Good analysis.

I think they'll make another marketing push when the next big update to the firmware comes (likely with 3rd party apps/SDK in Feb/March).
 
Which target is that?

iPhone has a publicly stated target of 10m by the end of calendar 2008. Where are the AppleTV targets you mention? Apple hasn't made any projections public.

The only so-called targets are analysts pulling numbers out of their arse - and we all know how often they get things right. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly or easily speculation becomes accepted as fact.

Exactly. The only ones who knows what Apple's internal sales targets were for Apple TV is Apple.
 
CLEARLY that's what he meant. lol... I wish I could read minds as well as you can!

And this is exactly what we’re going to try to do in 2008



Yeah I noticed. And um, "I don't think that word means what you think it means." Let's see - 1 billion cell phones per year, 10 million iPhone sales in a year and a half. See the problem?

Look, I admitted my err, you don't have to have an attitude. I did not realize steve was talking about sales market share, I'm sorry!
 
re: 2008 sales...

I'm shocked no one has mentioned that technically, as far as Apple Inc. is concerned... it already *IS* 2008...

Apple Inc's fiscal year 2007 ended Sept 29th.

:)

Sooo.. 10 mil iPhones in 2008... How many have been sold since the 29th of Sept so far?


jwd
 
It Steve does announce 5 million sold in his MacWorld keynote that is going to be a very good thing for Apple. Still a small portion of the cellphone market share but plenty of profit for Apple. There are many people I know that I have seen post on the forums and even some people that I know in person who are waiting out for the iPhone 2. There are others that I know who will not get the iPhone while ATT is the only carrier, I don't know if this is ever going to change, I hope it does. I would personally like the choice to change services and use my current phone with a data plan if ATT decided to treat me like they have treated others.

10 million plus before the end of 2008, I see it possible certainly with iPhone 2. I don't know if I will be getting one when it first comes out, but I will be getting one. I wonder if I am going to have to sign another two year contract to get one. I am hoping that they decide to waive the 2 year contract for those who already have an iPhone on their plan, but knowing ATT I am not sure if this will be the case. I also wonder if Apple has any plans to make deals with any other services.
 
Fantastic news.

Honestly, much better than I thought they would be at this point.

I am EXTREMELY happy with my launch-day iPhone but I really do hope more updates come. Incredibly disappointed on the updates so far as many things should have already been added.
 
Worldwide rollout isn't near..

True but keep in mind sales will slow as the iPhone gets near the end of it's worldwide rollout.
Now if we count the second Gen. iPhone in the 10M target I can see Apple being ahead of it's target because a lot of people will buy the rev.b iPhone in 2008.

Geesh, the phone is only sold in about 6 countries so far, not exactly near the end of a worldwide rollout. All the rest of Europe(!),Japan, Korea, India, China, Russia, Canada, Brazil and dozens of other huge populations still to go. Timeframe: don't know.
 
Because...

No way in hell they will sell that many by January Mac World. The source of this is a fantasy rumor site. Someone just wants to see this get out and steal any thunder during Macworld when the true number is announced - somewhere around 2-2.5 million. Why would Apple BUILD 4 million iPhones for sale in 3 months when they sold only 1 million in the first 3? The European markets are much smaller than the US market. The die-hards already have their phones. Only gift-giving will up the normal sales rate a bit for the rest of the market.


Because they knew that a $200 price drop would drastically increase the sales rate as would the Christmas shopping season. Not to mention all the gift cards that get redeemed in January, that won't be on the 1st quarter's books (Sept-Dec).

For 6 months we've heard nothing but nit-picking attacks on the iPhone, yet they are in fact turning up everywhere. Much like a product that had sold many millions of units. Next year more and more people will be going off contract and a lot of them will want an iPhone. With a higher capacity (?) 3G iPhone out mid year they will most likely have sold 20 Million units by the end of 2008, maybe 25 Million. You need look no further than the first year's iPod sales to get an idea how new Apple products ramp sales.

All those who nit-picked and said the iPhone would fail because... Well, you fill in the lame complaint will be proven wrong when earnings come out in a few weeks and Apple has indeed sold 5 million units. I'm sure they'll find something to complain about with the 3G units when they come out. And in December 2008 they will be saying "There's no way Apple sold 25 Million iPhones."

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple had 10% of the cell phone market by 2010. And don't forget boys and girls, Apple get a portion of everyones iPhone bill every month. And that's free money for Apple and it's going to add up REALLY FAST.

Happy to be long of AAPL

Al
 
Just think what the number would be if it was not AT&T exclusive. I have 3,000 anytime minutes with T-Mobile for $49.99. It makes switching over to AT&T impossible at their current over $200 for 2,000 minutes rate. And yes, I use close to 3,000 mins a month for work. If T-Mobile and other carriers were provided the chance to buy an iPhone I know I sure as hell would have bought one and others as well.
 
I have everything crossed for a HDD based iPhone unveiled at MacWorld. And of course a price drop in the ridiculous contracts.

Go on Apple, give me a nice Christmas present!

And don't forget boys and girls, Apple get a portion of everyones iPhone bill every month. And that's free money for Apple and it's going to add up REALLY FAST.

Happy to be long of AAPL

Al

It's not "free" money. It's money Apple are getting by ripping off their consumers. Only an Apple stock-holder could be happy about that.
 
It still amazes me how many people just don't get this and praise Apple for making their phone bills more expensive :confused:

I know, had MS done a similar thing they would rip them to shreds. But if Apple rips you off it's a "Good Thing"tm.

Charging users to use a product they've already bought. Genius, money for nothing! /rolls eyes
 
Just think what the number would be if it was not AT&T exclusive. I have 3,000 anytime minutes with T-Mobile for $49.99. It makes switching over to AT&T impossible at their current over $200 for 2,000 minutes rate. And yes, I use close to 3,000 mins a month for work. If T-Mobile and other carriers were provided the chance to buy an iPhone I know I sure as hell would have bought one and others as well.
Rates are $120 for 2,000 not $200
and 4,000 is $170, maybe now that you were off by so much, you can afford the plan.
 
My iPhone bill is LESS than when I had my Razr because they didn't have the lower priced data plan. Less money, way better phone!!

Did you go with an expensive contract to get a Razr? Because they really aren't very good phones IMO. Your iPhone must be a million times better!
 
I use close to 3,000 mins a month for work.

Hmmm... 31 days x 24 hours x 60 = 44,640

Assumption - 8 hours/day sleeping/shower/bath/eating/various bodily functions, so that would be 31 x 16 x 60 = 29,760

Sooooo... just over 10% of your waking time is spent on the phone? Also assumes no days off :D

Looks like we have a candidate for the first Human/cel phone hybrid surgical grafting project! Igor! To the lab!
 
It still amazes me how many people just don't get this and praise Apple for making their phone bills more expensive :confused:

I have no problem paying more when I get more from my phone.

I know browse the internet with ease, email check consistently, ipod included, etc....

Well worth the added price per month
 
Fake!!!!!

Hate to burst everyones bubble, but these are fake. One quick look in Photoshop and a look through the channels shows they have been altered. See attached image and you can see the difference of pixels in the Blue channel. The Gear Live icon is all pixelated in the black area compared to the rest. A box can be seen where they copied and moved the image.

Wish it was true, but Steve probably has something else up his sleeve.

Oops, sorry. Posted this in the wrong place.
 

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I like the approximately 1 million in the eu, now I know we've had it for less time etc but thats not exactly good when its over 3 countries is it, maybe the europeans aren't so daft after all :D.

Oh do your maths!! The population of the 3 EU countries the iPhone is on sale in is much less than the USA, so if 1million iPhones have been sold in 2 months in the EU then that shows we are more interested in it than AMerica!!
 
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