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Any rumors as to whether The Mac Book Pro with lose the option of a Matte screen. The loss of Ethernet is annoying, but an Adapter is an inelegant , but usable solution, the lack of a Matte screen would really screw parts of the pro market.
 
About the Flash memory: would that be replacing the hard drive entirely, or will it come in parallel to store just the OS or something like that?

I'd love to see it replace the hard drive entirely, but only if something decent like 500GB of Flash isn't too expensive...
 
Then go get that PC. No one is stopping you from making that choice as a consumer.

This is the comparison you want to make?

That $250 PC also will have a DVD drive (tray!).

Look, if it's not for you, then don't buy it.

Nah, I just posted what I did because I knew this is the type of replies I would get. If Apple decided that the screen should be dark all the time and unusable people would be raving at how wonderful it was. Obviously only Apple knows what an individual needs.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if apple scuppered BOTH the 13" and the 17" to consolidate the line.

I don't think it highly likely nor a good idea, but it would definitely not surprise me.
 
Try transferring 25+GB of data over WiFi on a regular basis...Not to mention I remotely control 3-5 edit suites over a gigabit connection. Wifi would make it far more difficult.

No kidding. I find wifi quite infuriating when it comes to remotely accessing machines...
 
Nah, I just posted what I did because I knew this is the type of replies I would get. If Apple decided that the screen should be dark all the time and unusable people would be raving at how wonderful it was. Obviously only Apple knows what an individual needs.

Oh so you're just trolling? Good to know!
 
I wouldn't be surprised if apple scuppered BOTH the 13" and the 17" to consolidate the line.

I don't think it highly likely nor a good idea, but it would definitely not surprise me.

scuppered is such a great word. Thanks for using it!

The MBP 13 is the best seller so if anything we may be headed towards just 3 screen sizes.

11.6
13.3
15.2
 
Exactly, we already carry a handful of them. I don't want more. And yes, $50-100 is not much money to almost anyone, pro or not. The point is, its silly to spend this money on such a feature, or lack there of. And a lack of FW800 only complicates it.

What's happening is that we're getting pushed into buying these expensive TB docks. Yeah, again ~$500 (I'm thinking for those multiple feature TB docks here) for a someone using the machine to make money isn't a huge obstacle, but its also not totally trivial. Think if you're a small business and you need to buy 10 or 50 of these things. I'm sure you can think of a lot of things your business needs and paying maybe $10,000 just to get your business adequately set up to transfer data, when it used to cost nearly zero, doesn't sound like a pittance.

The retina display will be nice, and ultimately I'd certainly rather have a Macbook Pro w/out Ethernet than it competitors, but that won't exactly make me happy about the lack of Ethernet should I need to buy a new MBP.

You will need to buy a new MBP eventually, so you might as well get used to the fact that it won't have an ethernet jack. It's the thickest port on the chassis, I'd be happy to get rid of it and buy an adapter for the places I usually use gigabit than have a thicker machine. I'm one of those guys who has a power adapter at every point-of-use for my MBP so I don't have to carry one everywhere, I'd use the same practice for a USB/TB->Gigabit adapter.
 
Retina display = awesome. Loss of Ethernet and Superdrive = not awesome. I'm a DJ, I burn/backup CDs all the time on the go, and it isn't convenient to carry around an external. It's one of the reasons I didn't go with the MacBook Air in the first place.

Plus I live in a college apartment complex where everyone and their mother has a wireless router set up in their room, so Ethernet is the only way I get a reliable signal 99% of the time.

I guess this really doesn't affect me too much, since I bought the late 2011 model 13" Core i5 MBP anyway. That should last me at least a few more years before I feel the need to upgrade. :)
 
Bring it on, folks! Anything will be an upgrade from my first gen MacBook.
(Yeah, that's right - I said MacBook!) :eek:
 
This will doom the company. The thinner laptops are worthless overpriced netbooks. Why pay so much money when you can have the same functionality with a $150 netbook?

Already android phones and tablets are driving Apple out of the market, and once they lose the PC market, the company will probably fold up by 2013-14 at the latest.

Sounds like you're reading the journalists the Macalope makes fun of. :)
 
About the Flash memory: would that be replacing the hard drive entirely, or will it come in parallel to store just the OS or something like that?

I'd love to see it replace the hard drive entirely, but only if something decent like 500GB of Flash isn't too expensive...

Same here. Use SSD blades and chuck out the HDDs, using the space for battery. If this is going to be a thinner MBP with Retina, we will need as much juice as possible.

I'd settle for a 128gb SSD blade if it'll give me a couple more hours battery. Don't even need as high as 512gb. With USB 3 and TB, if I need more space I can just get some small externals.
 
Only, you probably won't pay any less because its not there. In fact, it will probably be the opposite.

I WANT to pay more money. I am iSheep! LOL I'm kidding.


I feel like computers should be balanced. Which means that Apple needs to be looking and seeing where they can design their computers to affect the largest group of people.

DVD drive usage is waning. Wireless has become the standard for home users. Why not simplify and take the money that was used on the ODD and apply that towards things like SSD and higher quality display that everyone can use?

Then make sure that there are accessories that help me reach back and connect to legacy systems.

Thunderbolt to ADB!!!! FTW
 
I really wonder what is going to happen with the Air line now. I love my MBA, but that new Pro is going to be really tempting.
 
However many of us in the real world (most of whom have never heard of macrumors.com and are too busy working to waste time on forums)

Count yourself out of that group.

Perhaps they will also have a thunderbolt-to-ethernet adapter or USB-to-ethernet adapter... one more THING to keep track of, which if you accidentally leave it at home, and the job calls for you to need it, now you are SCREWED.

Be more careful.

Client wants all the photos burned to DVD. Oops, forgot DVD burner at home, or it's broken from floating around in my bag, etc. SCREWED.

Be more careful.

Client needs Linksys WiFi router reconfigured. Oops, forgot ethernet dongle adapter. SCREWED.

Be more careful.

I tell client, "Get with the times. You are so 2007." Never hear from client again. SCREWED.

Learn how to deal with client expectations.

I tell client, "Apple is a forward-thinking company, and your reliance on DVD and ethernet is quaint and laughable." Never hear from client again. Get bad review from client on Google. SCREWED.

Learn how to deal with client expectations.

Oh, and don't drink any more whine.
 
You will need to buy a new MBP eventually, so you might as well get used to the fact that it won't have an ethernet jack. It's the thickest port on the chassis, I'd be happy to get rid of it and buy an adapter for the places I usually use gigabit than have a thicker machine. I'm one of those guys who has a power adapter at every point-of-use for my MBP so I don't have to carry one everywhere, I'd use the same practice for a USB/TB->Gigabit adapter.

I'd be happy to lose it, and anything else built into the computer, if I thought I had a adequate alternative. Having a single dock for all these needs in all two of the places I'd really need them, plus a few adapters for what I really need on the go, wouldn't really be so bad if they were more cost effective. Thunderbolt has that possibility, but its just not there yet. Right now its just insane to buy a multiple hundred dollar adapter for something that used to built in just to save a few millimeters and maybe 1/2 pound.
 
If they're really gonna introduce this on WWDC, I expect them to also introduce a Mac Pro – IF(!) they decided to continue the Mac Pro line.

No Mac Pro on WWDC = Mac Pro is dead.
 
I'd be happy to lose it, and anything else built into the computer, if I thought I had a adequate alternative. Having a single dock for all these needs in all two of the places I'd really need them, plus a few adapters for what I really need on the go, wouldn't really be so bad if they were more cost effective. Thunderbolt has that possibility, but its just not there yet. Right now its just insane to buy a multiple hundred dollar adapter for something that used to built in just to save a few millimeters and maybe 1/2 pound.

What's insane to me is that the few people who might genuinely need ethernet might think that everyone else should be prevented from benefiting from thinner, lighter, more aesthetically pleasing designs. Face it, there will not be two assembly lines, one producing an ethernet model for a couple % of the users who need it, and one producing everyone else's laptops.

And Apple shouldn't include the adapter for free, again for the exact same reasons. Most users wouldn't want to subsidize other people's adapters. If you can afford a laptop that is 2k, you can afford the adapters.
 
Count yourself out of that group.



Be more careful.



Be more careful.



Be more careful.



Learn how to deal with client expectations.



Learn how to deal with client expectations.

Oh, and don't drink any more whine.

Condescending post of the month, finishing off with a freudian slip. Priceless. :D
 
Hmm...I must have missed the announcement from Apple that the new MBP would be losing Ethernet. When was that announced?
 
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