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With only 128GB storage...

With only 128gb of SSD storage...

Id rather have 60gb of storage than every use a 5000rpm drive again. Ditched CDs in 2004, ditched mechanical drives for anything other than archival storage in 2009.
 
Then what are we going to call the MacBooks pros that have retina display. Are we just going to call them MacBook Pros? What if people forget what kinda of screen they have they can't just look at the name and go oh I have retina display.
 
Having bought a retina pro, despite hating the idea, I can honestly say thank goodness they are getting rid of it.

I'll take retina, light, thin, SSD, instant on over any expandable/swap-able laptop any day. I never thought I would thing this way but the difference between the two macbook pro models is huge they should not call the non retina a PRO at all.

For the sake of double the storage with a mechanical disk you are really short changing yourself not getting the retina anyway. Yes space is currently a little short but you can guarantee it'll soon exceed all small mechanical disk completely at a price point much lower.

If you think about the volume of SSDs on market they must be outselling HDDs by now.
 
I'm waiting for the Macbook plastic version to come back.


That said my 2006 Macbook flies since dropping an SSD in it.

It was retired but I decided to extend my white 07 MB by bumping the memory up to 4g and I use it all the time now. No ssd in there just the original hd. I am hoping I will get quite a bit more use out of it. :)
 
Can't wait until the only Macbook I can buy is non-upgradable.


I can't express how much I hate that this soldered stuff has happened. I'll take a little thicker body and non soldered RAM instead of this soldering because it's so thin stuff.

I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of this. Just max if out when you buy it. If you configure it how you want it when you purchase it, you don't have to worry about it. I bought a Retina MBP 15" recently. I maxed out the ram and processor.
 
Having bought a retina pro, despite hating the idea, I can honestly say thank goodness they are getting rid of it.

I'll take retina, light, thin, SSD, instant on over any expandable/swap-able laptop any day. I never thought I would thing this way but the difference between the two macbook pro models is huge they should not call the non retina a PRO at all.

For the sake of double the storage with a mechanical disk you are really short changing yourself not getting the retina anyway. Yes space is currently a little short but you can guarantee it'll soon exceed all small mechanical disk completely at a price point much lower.

If you think about the volume of SSDs on market they must be outselling HDDs by now.

Yes SSD's are wonderful, and luckily you can put two into a non-retina MBP :)
 
hmmm, since when was the exchange rate from USD to AUD 2.5

so the rMBP is $100 USD more than the non retina model
but in Australia it is $250 more
 
That's fine, but they better upgrade the standard RAM of the rMBP to 8 at the same price. 4? It's 2014..
 
Consumers have spoken and they don't want clunky old non-Retina MacBooks. Just like they didn't want the 17" MacBook Pro. Apple is right to kill them all off and focus on the innovation they are driving in the new Retina range of products.

Have they indeed? Excuse me, but I think I wasn't there when they spoke. I'm sure there is some opinionated git somewhere on the internet making these claims, but that doesn't make it true.
 
I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of this. Just max if out when you buy it. If you configure it how you want it when you purchase it, you don't have to worry about it. I bought a Retina MBP 15" recently. I maxed out the ram and processor.
Maybe some people can't afford to pay Apple's BTO prices on top of a laptop all in one go. Being able to upgrade the RAM and storage several pay checks later is "a big deal".

Also, even flash drives can go bad, and the ability to replace the unit easily without incurring huge service charges (outside of warrantee) is also a big deal. The same for the battery.

For some, the purchase of a laptop happens every 4, 5 or 6 years, and we want to ensure that we get the most for our money across that time frame. In 3 years time, an SSD twice the size will cost half as much (probably), and I may have filled my drive by then.
 
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Have they indeed? Excuse me, but I think I wasn't there when they spoke. I'm sure there is some opinionated git somewhere on the internet making these claims, but that doesn't make it true.

I'm also wondering how much the market has truly spoken. Weren't the 15inch non-retinas outselling the retina at about the time they removed them from the market? Does anyone have those stats handy?
 
Maybe some people can't afford to pay Apple's BTO prices on top of a laptop all in one go. Being able to upgrade the RAM and storage several pay checks later is "a big deal".

Also, even flash drives can go bad, and the ability to replace the unit easily without incurring huge service charges (outside of warrantee) is also a big deal. The same for the battery.

For some, the purchase of a laptop happens every 4, 5 or 6 years, and we want to ensure that we get the most for our money across that time frame.

Totally agree with all the points above. Apple's BTO prices especially for RAM are often something between ridiculous and insane.
 
With only 128gb of SSD storage...

Id rather have 60gb of storage than every use a 5000rpm drive again. Ditched CDs in 2004, ditched mechanical drives for anything other than archival storage in 2009.

This. That $100 difference between the retina and non-retina is easily worth it based on the SSD alone.
 
Consumers have spoken and they don't want clunky old non-Retina MacBooks. Just like they didn't want the 17" MacBook Pro. Apple is right to kill them all off and focus on the innovation they are driving in the new Retina range of products.

Have consumers spoken? I think if this story is true then it's just Apple doing what Apple always does. That if you want the osx experience you either have to make do with what you've got or go along with it. Good luck to them. I have noticed though a number of pc manufacturers seem to be producing Ultrabook style thinner gen 4 Haswell notebooks but with discrete graphic cards and optical drives. Interesting to see the numbers 1-2 years down the track.
 
With only 128GB storage...

*128GB PCI-e SSD vs a 5400 RPM turtle...Seriously, once you go SSD for your primary drive you will never look back. I have plenty of external storage that is redundantly backed up (External drives for speed and a RAID 5 NAS for redundancy, plus CrashPlan for offsite backup.) - I don't need to carry my entire photo library with me at all times.

Yes, I would have preferred a slightly thicker body for non-soldiered RAM and maybe an easier to replace battery, but given the other enhancements (Massive resolution increase, I always run on 1680x1050 scaled as I need the space, smaller footprint) it was an easy choice for me.
 
Maybe some people can't afford to pay Apple's BTO prices on top of a laptop all in one go. Being able to upgrade the RAM and storage several pay checks later is "a big deal".

Also, even flash drives can go bad, and the ability to replace the unit easily without incurring huge service charges (outside of warrantee) is also a big deal. The same for the battery.

For some, the purchase of a laptop happens every 4, 5 or 6 years, and we want to ensure that we get the most for our money across that time frame. In 3 years time, an SSD twice the size will cost half as much (probably), and I may have filled my drive by then.
I just have to agree with this on so many levels. Especially having seen the benefits of just adding more memory to an old macbook. It always put me off that the air for example didn't allow you to add extra memory in later as and when funds or needs arose. That and the fact you couldn't even get an 8 gig air off the shelf from my preferred dealer anyway.
 
Not surprising, in fact I see little reason for the 13" MBA as well. Too much overlap on the product lines. Other then the optical drive, there's really no reason to get the 13" cMBP imo
 
Ugh. I wish Apple would add a retina display to the old form factor. Thin is nice, but I'd rather have a slightly thicker laptop that I can upgrade the RAM/SSD on in a few years when I need it for a decent price rather than pay an extra $100-$300 for more RAM that probably won't be utilized until a few years down the line.
 
And even further, is adding RAM really such a substantial upgrade?

Nope. I think computer RAM has reached a plateau. Notice how it's not increasing at the pace that it used to. 4GB ram is perfect for 99.9% of people and that's why it's standard on so many MacBooks now. I have a 2013 air with 4gb ram and 256gb ssd. I doubt it will get slow any time soon....
 
*128GB PCI-e SSD vs a 5400 RPM turtle...Seriously, once you go SSD for your primary drive you will never look back. I have plenty of external storage that is redundantly backed up (External drives for speed and a RAID 5 NAS for redundancy, plus CrashPlan for offsite backup.) - I don't need to carry my entire photo library with me at all times.

Yes, I would have preferred a slightly thicker body for non-soldiered RAM and maybe an easier to replace battery, but given the other enhancements (Massive resolution increase, I always run on 1680x1050 scaled as I need the space, smaller footprint) it was an easy choice for me.

But why do people think its an exclusive thing. I have far more SSD options on a non-retina MBP. I can go off and get a 1TB Samsung 840 EVO for peanuts compared to the equivalent option by Apple. And if I run out of space, can install a second SSD. Granted its not PCI-E, but performance is ample.

Yeh 1680x1050 is a great resolution for a 15" screen, and is the option I chose for my non-retina screen.

In the end I think many people's ideal laptop would be any mixture of features from a retina and non-retina MBP. But perhaps the market has spoken and those of us pining for future non-retina MBPs are dinosaurs. Either way theres no choice now, I'll obviously get a retina MBP once mine dies, but only because Apple has forced my hand.
 
Somewhat sad, but it really died in 2013 since Apple never bothered to update it with the new processors. I have a non-retina 15" and although the retinas make mine look old in comparison, I still like the convince of the old generation.

Ethernet port, diskdrive, headphone jack closer to the user....

Many of these legacy devices are rarely used, but when a situation occurs, it's nice to not need a $30 adapter to burn a $0.25 disk or use an $8 LAN cable.
 
Apple wants you to pay about $400 premium for the retina display, which really brings no benefit. $1,800 for a 13" laptop is crazy. What about those who all they need is a Mac laptop?
 
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