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Since Apple is sponsoring the Met Gala this year I wouldn't be surprised if we see another big name collaboration maybe in time for that event (which is in May).



I'll never understand why people care what other people do with their money.

No?

I guess if I had no sense of morality, I might feel the same way.
 
That's why I like you max!

I'm still on a crusade that Amiga rules them all!
I should still have my Amiga 500 somewhere in the basement...

Fashion and brands are not the same thing.

Fashion is more about art and style. Fashion is an expression of individuality.

Buying a name to flaunt your wealth is not fashion. It's a statement of greed. And insecurity.

If I was belittling someone individually, publicly, with a view to embarrass, then you might have a point. But I'm not.

Challenging each other is important. I'd hate to think the overly politically correct crowd remove all honesty in the world.
But again, what's wrong in people spending THEIR money for fashion branded object that please them ?
I'm not going to spend $1000 for a band, but who cares if a guy that earn $30000 per month buy one of those bands ? He can afford it. He is happy with that purchase. He isn't stealing my money. Who cares ?
 
I should still have my Amiga 500 somewhere in the basement...


But again, what's wrong in people spending THEIR money for fashion branded object that please them ?
I'm not going to spend $1000 for a band, but who cares if a guy that earn $30000 per month buy one of those bands ? He can afford it. He is happy with that purchase. He isn't stealing my money. Who cares ?
You're right. Folk who live in an insular world who lack perspective may well think that such a purchase is worthwhile.
 
The Macrumors techie demographic is not one that cares much (or appreciates) high fashion. Hence the comments.
Nor do they understand what high fashion is. AW is more digital gadget than anything fashionable that has a long rich history. Or for that matter AW is not particularly contemporary in its style sans whatever band is installed. Apple is indeed...large and successful, but not in the world of fashion. They're just plain out of their element.
 
Got a 3in1 Hoco leather set from china. 34$ quality is perfect.

The quality of these China bands is very good. so good that I really have to wonder what you pay the extra 1100 something $ for.
Im sure if you look really close there will be some difference in leather quality but apart from that the work put in is about the same?
I have seen expensive leather watchbands and the copys have it all apart from the fancy name that still not justifies the price.

Also you get all 3 types in one package for 34$ quality was so good that i got 3 sets in tan,coffie and brown.

a set like this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-...chweb1451318400_6149,searchweb1451318411_6450
 

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You're right. Folk who live in an insular world who lack perspective may well think that such a purchase is worthwhile.

Reign it in a little ;) it's just an apple product, if someone can afford it and it makes them happy, it does not mean they live in a insular world without perspective. Worthwhile is what you can afford.
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Ummm, what? A statement of wealth relates to purchases which are aimed purely at flaunting one's financial position.

Said item 95% of the purchase price gets you the name. People who buy these things just want others to know how much $$ they have. They want to be branded to feel secure.

Buying a bunch of bananas at the supermarket won't get you the same effect.
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Fashion and brands are not the same thing.

Fashion is more about art and style. Fashion is an expression of individuality.

Buying a name to flaunt your wealth is not fashion. It's a statement of greed. And insecurity.

If I was belittling someone individually, publicly, with a view to embarrass, then you might have a point. But I'm not.

Challenging each other is important. I'd hate to think the overly politically correct crowd remove all honesty in the world.

This is true, people who buy things cause of the brand , do not understand fashion, they buy the brand with the expectation that it will magically make them fashionable and cool. Behind all these tend to be insecurities .

This even works with bananas, same banana can be bought from a high end branded supermarket :)

Heck I've bought some expansive things to make me feel better, including apple priducts, while a cheaper alternative would do the tasks just fine. So yup, I put my hand up and admit it.
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Got a 3in1 Hoco leather set from china. 34$ quality is perfect.

The quality of these China bands is very good. so good that I really have to wonder what you pay the extra 1100 something $ for.
Im sure if you look really close there will be some difference in leather quality but apart from that the work put in is about the same?
I have seen expensive leather watchbands and the copys have it all apart from the fancy name that still not justifies the price.

Also you get all 3 types in one package for 34$ quality was so good that i got 3 sets in tan,coffie and brown.

a set like this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-...chweb1451318400_6149,searchweb1451318411_6450

It's the branding. It says Hermes, the exact same strip would sell for 1/10th the value without it having Hermes stamped on it.

At the end of the day, to get leather mass produced to that level of quality is going to be under $100..... And I am way over estimating.

This is the Hermes effect, when combined with other brands

http://www.imaging-resource.com/new...hermes-leica-m9-p-sometimes-beauty-is-only-sk

Hermes + Leica = $50k ......
 
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You're right. Folk who live in an insular world who lack perspective may well think that such a purchase is worthwhile.
The simple fact to have money, a passion, and the willing to spend money for something that please you, doesn't mean you lack perspective.
 
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Products such as these are priced this high, simply because they know some people will pay it.

I wouldn't buy one simply because they use names like 'Double Tour'. I'd feel like a pillock.
 
I'm guessing a lot of the $1000+ watches are given as gifts. They're emotionally-driven purchases - and not, strictly speaking, rational.

(Although one could easily argue that worming your way someone's good graces by giving them a rare gift is entirely rational. If you're Machaivelli. :) )
 
As a shareholder, and evidence of your posts, you seem to care a lot that people spent money on apple products . This is on MR and quite a number of tech sites. Trust me, you care very much :)

Just call a spade a spade.
can you provide an example of where I chided or made fun of someone for a specific product they bought? I don't remember telling anyone here they were stupid for spending their money on X.
 
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can you provide an example of where I chided or made fun of someone for a specific product they bought? I don't remember telling anyone here they were stupid for spending their money on X.

now your twisting what I wrote, I never stated that you called people stupid etc, cause of thier choice of product. What you do is defend apple on MR and a number of sites, like a moth to negative comments, and you are very pro apple. Being a shareholder is in your interest for people to purchase apple products , simple as at.

Do you think I said you humiliate people on here ? On the contrary, you have very bias views but your posts are very much in good taste!

If I was an apple shareholder I would care very much also. And probably be very defensive.

Though since you did call me out , you did call a bunch of posters jerks cause they made fun of the Hermes edition.....just on this thread....so maybe self reflect on that.
 
It's unheard of for an Apple product. The last time I recall a premium Apple product being discounted this much was when Steve Jobs came back to Apple and liquidated the $10,000 TAM for less than 25% of retail, because he hated it so much. I get jewelry stores typically "negotiate" prices this way, so to the extent Apple has given the retailer this kind of unprecedented ability to sell so far below retail, a price otherwise controlled very tightly by Apple, suggests very clearly that Apple has lost control of the watch, or has had a major reversal of policy. Colette sold a $17,000 Apple product for $8500. Can you imagine if Best Buy sold a $10,000 Mac Pro for $5,000? Now that would be insanely great.


Or it could suggest that Apple approached the fashion industry entirely including the heavy discounts they use to make.
 
Apple's NON-iPhone revenue is as big as the whole Microsoft, and growing fast.
The iPhone being a behemoth does not imply the firm isn't thriving elsewhere.

Also, $3B for Beats was basically a steal. This deal will pay itself in just a few years. Compare that to the $7B writeoff of Nokia (Microsoft) or the $12B writeoff of Motorola (Google). In short, you have no idea of what you're talking about.



And Apple is totally famous for announcing vaporware years before actual products... not.

You're a hater with no knowledge whatsoever on how Apple operates and what makes Apple ticking. Hint: it's not nanotubes.
I love it when people take these things personally. Here's a hint: Apple is one of the largest multinational companies on the planet. They don't care about you or anyone else, the only thing they care about is their machiavellian drive to increase their quarterly profits for shareholders. Everything 'deeper' than that is just smoke and mirrors. Apple was hijacked by Wall St years ago. You don't get it. Beats, the Apple watch, these things are distractions that sounded like good ideas to a bunch of clueless MBA drones in a Cupertino boardroom. I'm not saying they won't make money. But they will never come close to the iPhone.

The mobile market is famous for being volatile. Big players in the market today could easily be out of business 5 years from now. The watch and a headphones company aren't gonna save Apple if that happens. And if the iPhone stops being popular, the 'knock on' effect will cause all their other products to become much less popular as well

I don't think you realize just how dependent on the iPhone Apple really is. If you're just looking at the percentage of revenue you're missing the bigger picture. Instead of coming out with some gaudy watch, Apple should really be investing in new technologies that could easily supplant the iPhone (AI, etc) but they're just not doing so.

They keep their R&D private so we don't know they're not working on those things.

Since iPhone, they've launched iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and numerous updates to existing products as well as expanding product categories (like iPad mini).

People need to get over Steve Jobs being gone: it's too hard to make a call on what he was responsible for. The biggest notable change is we don't have his charm selling us new products.

Getting Beats to build Apple Music was smart. They have all the industry connections. Would you rather the iTunes Store had remained the only way to get music? That seems more like squandering their advantage rather than trying to leapfrog people who are proving competitive.
Entering an already crowded, hyper competitive, saturated market is an elementary business mistake. Apple is never gonna make much money off of it. In fact I'm betting they shut it down within 2 years. It's just another distraction.

And no, Apple's R&D is usually pretty leaky. We pretty much know what's down the road. And none of their current long term investments are going to really revolutionize anything. Just another player, really. It's sad too. They could really make a huge difference in something like the AI industry, which is the real future of technology, but they don't.
 
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Reign it in a little ;) it's just an apple product, if someone can afford it and it makes them happy, it does not mean they live in a insular world without perspective. Worthwhile is what you can afford.
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This is true, people who buy things cause of the brand , do not understand fashion, they buy the brand with the expectation that it will magically make them fashionable and cool. Behind all these tend to be insecurities .

This even works with bananas, same banana can be bought from a high end branded supermarket :)

Heck I've bought some expansive things to make me feel better, including apple priducts, while a cheaper alternative would do the tasks just fine. So yup, I put my hand up and admit it.
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It's the branding. It says Hermes, the exact same strip would sell for 1/10th the value without it having Hermes stamped on it.

At the end of the day, to get leather mass produced to that level of quality is going to be under $100..... And I am way over estimating.

This is the Hermes effect, when combined with other brands

http://www.imaging-resource.com/new...hermes-leica-m9-p-sometimes-beauty-is-only-sk

Hermes + Leica = $50k ......

You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig!
 
Products such as these are priced this high, simply because they know some people will pay it.

That's an incredibly asinine statement. Of course products are priced so that people will pay it. That can be said of anything from a loaf of bread to a corporate jet.
 

"iPhone is cool, but they will never come close to the iPod", circa 2007.

See how it works?
Nice try putting words in my mouth, but I would have never said that. I was one of the first iPhone users back in 2007. It was a gigantic leap in technology, like an alien spaceship had landed in my front yard. Nothing Apple has come out with since has had even a remote chance of such success. I can appreciate a great product and I know one when I see it. That said, the Apple watch is not one of those great products. And yes, I was one of the first Watch owners as well.

Apple isn't investing in its own future anymore, they seem more content to take all their cash and return it to shareholders in massive dividend and buyback programs. It seems the most interesting thing they've got going on is a self driving car, which is something that Google will definitely be better at since they have a natural advantage. Actual giant leaps in technology, stuff that will make the Apple's and Google's of the future (like AI) seem to be stuff Apple isn't interested in pursuing, a mistake I think will eventually kill Apple off as a consumer goods company. Apple may not be investing in this stuff but Google definitely is. After all, who will want to own a cell phone in the future when you can just have your Google AI make your phone calls for you. Sure, that's a bit of a stretch....but not a big one.
 
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I love it when people take these things personally. Here's a hint: Apple is one of the largest multinational companies on the planet. They don't care about you or anyone else, the only thing they care about is their machiavellian drive to increase their quarterly profits for shareholders. Everything 'deeper' than that is just smoke and mirrors. Apple was hijacked by Wall St years ago. You don't get it. Beats, the Apple watch, these things are distractions that sounded like good ideas to a bunch of clueless MBA drones in a Cupertino boardroom. I'm not saying they won't make money. But they will never come close to the iPhone.

The mobile market is famous for being volatile. Big players in the market today could easily be out of business 5 years from now. The watch and a headphones company aren't gonna save Apple if that happens. And if the iPhone stops being popular, the 'knock on' effect will cause all their other products to become much less popular as well

I don't think you realize just how dependent on the iPhone Apple really is. If you're just looking at the percentage of revenue you're missing the bigger picture. Instead of coming out with some gaudy watch, Apple should really be investing in new technologies that could easily supplant the iPhone (AI, etc) but they're just not doing so.


Entering an already crowded, hyper competitive, saturated market is an elementary business mistake. Apple is never gonna make much money off of it. In fact I'm betting they shut it down within 2 years. It's just another distraction.

And no, Apple's R&D is usually pretty leaky. We pretty much know what's down the road. And none of their current long term investments are going to really revolutionize anything. Just another player, really. It's sad too. They could really make a huge difference in something like the AI industry, which is the real future of technology, but they don't.

I'm going to end this discussion as you seem so out of touch with reality (patent filings, hires, etc) that there's no sense in talking to you.
 
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