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I can already see a few *known and ever ready apple apologists* salivating and ready to chime in with their wholly self-curated armchair expert and conclusive judgements!!
People are super naive if they think they can have privacy and have a device with camera, microphone and gps on their person all day long.
Yeah about that
Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”
gizmodo.com
Um, I'm with you. Hence the "leaning towards #2" comment. I never said anything about "settle if your innocent".
Uuugghhh - it’s OK, I’ll download the internet then just go off-grid for the rest of my life. If you see me post again it means they got to me, or I just have no will power.People are super naive if they think they can have privacy and have a device with camera, microphone and gps on their person all day long.
Yeah about that
Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”
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This happens to me all the time. I'm sure we'll never see any of that class action lawsuit. Just the layers will make money. We'll get like $25
So you are absolutely, positively convinced that Apple is guilty as charged. Might you enlighten us with how you came to this conclusion? Or is the usual “It’s Apple so they are guilty as hell. Fire Tim Cook!"
And this is exactly why there will be a mic in the new magic mouse.
There was a class action lawsuit many, many years ago over installation CDs. I don’t remember the particulars but I got a free OS 9.2 installation CD as my settlement. I already had OS 9.2 installed on my Mac at the time.
The biggest joke here is that people still think iPhone is private and secure. It's all marketing BS, and Apple has successfully marketed themselves that way to people. Nothing new though, as apple are kings of marketing.
So what proof do you have? Any? Or do you just believe Apple are evil and liars because, well, just because?
The on/off functions for all these apps and functions are not manual mechanical switches. Think about that fact.
You slide a dot and when it changes color, we are supposed to believe that a single transistor out of the multi-millions in the iPhone gets turned off and nothing leaves the phone. Except the user has no verifiable way to ensure said info is NOT leaving the iPhone.
Turning all the switches off is interesting. But I wonder what the default position is when turned off. The possibility exists that the default is on and for the first few seconds of connectivity, data could flow to the cell tower or WiFi internet before the list of things to be turned off is accessed.
Really paronoid folks should get an old Western Electric rotary dial phone. No electronics and a real wire tap is necessary to listen to their call. Or even better, walk next door and talk face to face.
You slide a dot and when it changes color, we are supposed to believe that a single transistor out of the multi-millions in the iPhone gets turned off and nothing leaves the phone. Except the user has no verifiable way to ensure said info is NOT leaving the iPhone.
Turning all the switches off is interesting. But I wonder what the default position is when turned off. The possibility exists that the default is on and for the first few seconds of connectivity, data could flow to the cell tower or WiFi internet before the list of things to be turned off is accessed.
Really paronoid folks should get an old Western Electric rotary dial phone. No electronics and a real wire tap is necessary to listen to their call. Or even better, walk next door and talk face to face.
Thanks for clarifying - it was wrong of me to make to wild assumption that the content of your post in any way reflected your opinion
Thanks for clarifying - it was wrong of me to make to wild assumption that the content of your post in any way reflected your opinion
The meme doesn't say anything about people not being reported for CSAM either.
It points out the irony of Apple refusing to unlock the San Bernadino shooters iPhone because they argued at the time that any backdoors in iOS could be exploited by bad actors and then later proposing systematically scanning all iPhones for CSAM which is obviously open to abuse also.
Apple didn't go ahead with its proposed CSAM scanning, so does Apple think CSAM is ok too?
It’s off by default, you know.
Well, you mean you think it happens every time. But there is no actual evidence, and humans are terribly biased.
We won’t find out either. The claims have no evidence. Claims are not the same as facts.
No, they are just constantly accused of it. But there has been no evidence of it.
Or could it be exactly for the reason they provided?
No one was affected since the claims are bogus (about advertisement).
..and then you proceed to state pure speculation for the rest of the comment.
Pure speculation?
Security researchers say that the App Store still tracks you even when you disable the tracking of device analytics.
Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”
gizmodo.com
A favorite posting device. Post articles multiple years old.Pure speculation?
Security researchers say that the App Store still tracks you even when you disable the tracking of device analytics.
Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”
November 2022. Multiple years old. 💩
I've been talking to Siri since it launched and never experienced anything like this.
In fact, I've had many(!) moments where I felt it would have helped my experience if it was able and allowed to suggest products and services to me. But, as always, it's only ever able to talk about trivia-esque facts and then "search the web for that" for everything else.
The best Siri has done with pairing my data with ads is sometimes suggesting apps from businesses when I travel around, based on my location. But I feel that's about it (and it only works on occasion). It's great when it works as it saves me a little time finding the app myself. But, of course, that's something I've enabled and not happening without my permission
With that in mind, I can entertain that there's some truth to what plaintiffs are alleging. Sure, I don't know the exact details, but I know that some apps and tech corporations have been doing something like that. So why not also Apple and its advertisers? It's not impossible just because Apple is branding itself and selling many of their products on "privacy".
But I also have to employ some critical thinking and suggest that getting ads for (generic, mainstream, hugely popular) clothing and fast-food brands, like Nike and Olive Garden, will happen to most of us a couple times a year.
The same goes for surgical treatments: millions of people are researching all kinds of surgeries every day. I've never had any elective surgeries, and don't look for beauty and health topics online or in apps. But have still gotten many ads for surgeries and various clinics.
Furthermore, all websites and many apps are constantly trying to build a "profile" on users to serve them ads, even the ones that aren't logged in, haven't used the site before, etc.: With just a few interactions, your IP address, and maybe gps location, they can quite accurately make some very good guesses about who you are and what you want to buy.
Not super specific, revealing guesses that would identify any particular individual. But something like "it's March and users in this location, who are online at this hour, probably belong to this age range, who have clicked these things on the site, usually shop for these mainstream clothing brands or look up locations of these fast-food chains. Let's send some New Balance and Subway ads their way. If they don't click that then they belong to a different demographic and want Urban Armour and McDonald's".
I'm undecided.
But in the meantime, I'll keep using Siri every day, constantly berating and belittling it for its incompetency while "share audio recordings with Apple to help make Siri better" is confidently toggled on, thank you very much! 😏
In fact, I've had many(!) moments where I felt it would have helped my experience if it was able and allowed to suggest products and services to me. But, as always, it's only ever able to talk about trivia-esque facts and then "search the web for that" for everything else.
The best Siri has done with pairing my data with ads is sometimes suggesting apps from businesses when I travel around, based on my location. But I feel that's about it (and it only works on occasion). It's great when it works as it saves me a little time finding the app myself. But, of course, that's something I've enabled and not happening without my permission
With that in mind, I can entertain that there's some truth to what plaintiffs are alleging. Sure, I don't know the exact details, but I know that some apps and tech corporations have been doing something like that. So why not also Apple and its advertisers? It's not impossible just because Apple is branding itself and selling many of their products on "privacy".
But I also have to employ some critical thinking and suggest that getting ads for (generic, mainstream, hugely popular) clothing and fast-food brands, like Nike and Olive Garden, will happen to most of us a couple times a year.
The same goes for surgical treatments: millions of people are researching all kinds of surgeries every day. I've never had any elective surgeries, and don't look for beauty and health topics online or in apps. But have still gotten many ads for surgeries and various clinics.
Furthermore, all websites and many apps are constantly trying to build a "profile" on users to serve them ads, even the ones that aren't logged in, haven't used the site before, etc.: With just a few interactions, your IP address, and maybe gps location, they can quite accurately make some very good guesses about who you are and what you want to buy.
Not super specific, revealing guesses that would identify any particular individual. But something like "it's March and users in this location, who are online at this hour, probably belong to this age range, who have clicked these things on the site, usually shop for these mainstream clothing brands or look up locations of these fast-food chains. Let's send some New Balance and Subway ads their way. If they don't click that then they belong to a different demographic and want Urban Armour and McDonald's".
I'm undecided.
But in the meantime, I'll keep using Siri every day, constantly berating and belittling it for its incompetency while "share audio recordings with Apple to help make Siri better" is confidently toggled on, thank you very much! 😏
I did not go into class action work exactly because of how slimy this is.
But man is there a lot of money in it if you don't have shame.
But man is there a lot of money in it if you don't have shame.
Gizmodo didn't do the research. Not able to refute any of it then?
Heres a link to the researchers Twitter account showing the code as it was running in real time.
You are a gullible as the day is long if you think your constantly connected pocket computer made by mega corp that recently went to court to defend their collusion in Google search monopoly is looking out for your privacy.