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Apple developed iFrame for this purpose. (The Sanyo VPC-FH1ABK camcorder is the first to implement the new codec.) You'll supposedly get Blu-Ray quality with much smaller (streamable) file sizes.

I've begun to understand Apple's strategy. Fifteen years ago, all my data resided on a handful of floppies. Now I have an array of three external hard drives, and I'm running out of space. It's getting ridiculous. It all has to go to the cloud. There's no other viable solution.

Yep. You're so insightful. And when storage prices for the "cloud" start to get ridiculous, bandwidth for your data is choked, your data gets stolen...you will be on here crying about how the cloud is raining.:D
 
Blu ray? What's THAT?

No surprise that the iPad will be at the forefront of this streaming push. Content providers will have no choice but to be on board.
I'm sure those filling out unemployment on their iPads will greatly enjoy the library's fiber connection. :D
 
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I couldn't disagree more. Perhaps you are the exception, but most users storage capacity is expanding far faster than their storage needs. I think I have about 60 GB on my imac's HD, and I take digital pictures, have thousands of songs, and have even ripped some DVDs. I'm not close to a high end storage user, but I do a lot more than a lot of people I know, many of them in the younger demographic. Computers coming with 1 TB or more standard blows my mind, and if that's not enough, you can terabytes more for a relative pittance.

Unless you create digital content (video, RAW images), I can't fathom how you could exceed the space available in a standard computer plus a couple of externals. Add to that the privacy concerns and potential inability to access data on a cloud and I really can't understand who would want that.

I have one 1TB Firewire drive on my media computer for media storage. I have one 2TB Firewire drive drive I use for backing stuff up. I am running out of space. When you start downloading TV shows from iTunes because the local cable company bites the big pickle, you run out of space fast.

PS, I stream all my iTunes movies and TV shows to my Apple TV. I have never had any bandwidth problems unless I was doing a large file transfer across the wireless.
 
The iPad size is deceptive.

Height:
9.56 inches (242.8 mm)
Width:
7.47 inches (189.7 mm)

The screen may be 4:3 but you can still watch 16:9 720P video.
Indeed. It's not like they are forcing you to watch letterboxed content. 16x9 is really only good for video content.
 
You realize that the only feature that is good for wide-screen is videos. That would be awkward to hold for anything else. If all you are going to do get a JooJoo.

I must disagree: I do indeed find the JooJoo to be a much more attractive dimension than the iPad. The widescreen is gorgeous, and is good for long vertical web pages too, like the New York Times. What would be so awkward about it?

Chief John Anderton liked his widescreen, didn't he?

JooJoo.jpg
 
I must disagree: I do indeed find the JooJoo to be a much more attractive dimension than the iPad. The widescreen is gorgeous, and is good for long vertical web pages too, like the New York Times. What would be so awkward about it?
Um, the width of the webpage would be less. Meaning everything on the page would be smaller. Sure, you could see down further on the page, but you'd likely have to zoom in much more often to see anything. 16x9 for web surfing makes no sense at all when you have another option.

Why do people get so upset over little black bars? Seems stupid to me.
 
I couldn't disagree more. Perhaps you are the exception, but most users storage capacity is expanding far faster than their storage needs. I think I have about 60 GB on my imac's HD, and I take digital pictures...

You must have a really crappy camera.

I know soccer moms with more than 60GB of pictures of their kids.
 
Yeah, why would I want to see my movies on a big 52" TV in 1080p Full HD resolution if I can watch them on a small 4:3 screen in a compressed lossy format? :rolleyes:

I'm going to sell all my Blu Ray discs right now, together with my TV and Blu ray player. The iPad is totally going to replace that old fashioned stuff! :rolleyes:

Hmmm... have you really considered that statement?

Try taking your 52" TV, bluray player and disc collection on an aeroplane/train/bus/car, etc.
 
It seems Apple has lot of convincing to do, however, as movie studios are working hard to avoid locking their content into one particular platform. Movie studios would prefer content purchased on once device could also be used on other devices.
Really? That seems the opposite of what I would expect movie studios to want. Their optimal business model is charge you $10-30 for each platform you want to watch the movie on - $30 for a BR copy, $15 for a DVD copy for the kids room, $12-15 to watch it on an iProduct (iPhone/iPad). And the DMCA they lobbied extensively for keeps you from legally ripping your one purchased BR copy for all of those devices due to the anti-circumvention provisions.
Agreed. I read that last sentence and that bunked the whole article.
 
Um, the width of the webpage would be less. Meaning everything on the page would be smaller. Sure, you could see down further on the page, but you'd likely have to zoom in much more often to see anything. 16x9 for web surfing makes no sense at all when you have another option.

Why do people get so upset over little black bars? Seems stupid to me.

Um, not if the iPad were the same width but simply longer. Then you'd have the same size web pages, but more vertical real estate. No extra zooming necessary.

What seems stupid to me is the concept that there's a tradeoff, the idea that you're "sacrificing" something with a widescreen. You're not. You're getting MORE in one direction.

People say the books app is better suited to 4:3... but I'm supposed to accept that the iPad-as-book-reader is going to trump the iPad-as-video-viewer???? That's just laughable. All things considered, the 4:3 ratio represents the greater sacrifice.
 
Yeah, why would I want to see my movies on a big 52" TV in 1080p Full HD resolution if I can watch them on a small 4:3 screen in a compressed lossy format? :rolleyes:

Well, because those huge black bars on the 4:3 screen really add to the movie experience, of course! Makes any movie instantly more stylish, as though its wearing a Steve Jobs turtleneck.
 
What seems stupid to me is the concept that there's a tradeoff, the idea that you're "sacrificing" something with a widescreen. You're not. You're getting MORE in one direction.

But the same argument applies for 4:3. You're getting more in one direction.

My counter is why doesn't Joojoo add width to their device and make it a 4:3. You're just getting more right? But suddenly you would be against it because it's now 4:3 even though the viewable 16:9 resolution is exactly the same.

arn
 
I couldn't disagree more. Perhaps you are the exception, but most users storage capacity is expanding far faster than their storage needs. I think I have about 60 GB on my imac's HD, and I take digital pictures, have thousands of songs, and have even ripped some DVDs. I'm not close to a high end storage user, but I do a lot more than a lot of people I know, many of them in the younger demographic. Computers coming with 1 TB or more standard blows my mind, and if that's not enough, you can terabytes more for a relative pittance..

Yes storage is cheap. But in my case I have about 1TB stored on my computer. I could buy more space fornotr much money. BUT that is not the point. I can't use any of the data unles I'm using that computer. What I want is the abilty to log on to ANY screen I see and have my own desktop follow me. Why drage around a notebook computer. Would it not be better if computers were just available in public places and I could use any one of them I want and all my 1TB of data would be there.

I've operated that way at work for many years. All the data is shared and my password works on any computer. I want this same thing to work world-wide.

My ideal would be that (say) I'm travelling in Tokyo and I sit down at one of those free public computers they have in bookstores. I want to be able to build aslide show using my aperture library and then burn a DVD.

Clouds don't solve the data storage problem. They solve the data access problem
 
Um, not if the iPad were the same width but simply longer. Then you'd have the same size web pages, but more vertical real estate. No extra zooming necessary.

Then the iPad would be nearly 7cm longer which would make it more awkward to manage.

What seems stupid to me is the concept that there's a tradeoff, the idea that you're "sacrificing" something with a widescreen. You're not. You're getting MORE in one direction.

Your argument works both ways. By your logic, in portrait mode a 9:16 screen has more in one direction (ie the vertical one) compared to 3:4.

Has it occurred to you that in landscape mode, a 4:3 screen has more in one direction (ie the vertical one) compared to 16:9?

Using your own logic a 4:3 is ADDING to the device.
 
I couldn't disagree more. Perhaps you are the exception, but most users storage capacity is expanding far faster than their storage needs.

The life span of an average hard drive is about 5 years. I really don't want to continually back up all that data every time. Maybe I'm the exception; I make a lot of home videos and do a lot of graphic design and audio work. But how do I store that work, except on a hard drive? I can't even burn it as data to BluRay without spanning many disks. I already have three cases filled with DVD data disks. I can't find anything on them without going through each one. So I've simply stopped backing stuff up onto DVD. If my hard drives croak, I'm up a creek. But I don't know what else to do besides starting my own server farm.

But if all of that data is in the cloud, it's easily searchable. And it's someone else's job to make sure it's all backed up. Then if any of my home or portable devices die, I just get a new one and I'm back up and running.

And when storage prices for the "cloud" start to get ridiculous, bandwidth for your data is choked, your data gets stolen...you will be on here crying about how the cloud is raining.

I'd gladly pay a reasonable fee for efficient storage services. With sites like Aviary, I don't need high-end software on my devices. It's doubtful that the entire "cloud" would break down at once. But if it did, I'd just put my toys away and go out for a walk. :)
 
Google: The cloud is the future.
:apple:Fanboy: Google is full of fail!

Apple: The cloud is the future.
:apple:Fanboy: Apple is brilliant!

God, I love this site sometimes.


Lethal
 
I would love to watch videos on multiple devices and not be locked into Apple. All the studios have to do is agree to un-DRM their video and the issue goes away.
 
Umm...

So if AT&T's network is choked as it is, how the hell does Apple expect mobile devices to handle the "Cloud"? I can see the Cloud concept working where you have Wifi, but over the 3G network I think that it would have to put one hell of a strain on the network. I think the mobile world is not quite ready for this concept.

Wonder if AT&T is ******** their pants right now?
 
But the same argument applies for 4:3. You're getting more in one direction.

My counter is why doesn't Joojoo add width to their device and make it a 4:3. You're just getting more right? But suddenly you would be against it because it's now 4:3 even though the viewable 16:9 resolution is exactly the same.

arn
Your argument works both ways. By your logic, in portrait mode a 9:16 screen has more in one direction (ie the vertical one) compared to 3:4.

Has it occurred to you that in landscape mode, a 4:3 screen has more in one direction (ie the vertical one) compared to 16:9?

Using your own logic a 4:3 is ADDING to the device.

You're both right to point out the length-vs-width chicken-and-egg scenario: the device can't keep "improving" itself by adding width/length forever.

To clarify: to me, the issue is not simply "more is better". Rather, the issue is efficiency of screen real estate for the majority of usage. My sense is that 16:9 is a better ratio choice for a tablet computer based on the probable majority of tasks it will be used for, while minimizing wasted real estate. The advantages of 16:9 for video viewing alone make it hard for me to understand why Apple chose 4:3. Because of e-book-reading? I can't believe that.

If I'm wrong about a widescreen ratio being usage-preferable, then why have all Apple's computer screens gone from standard to widescreen ratios? I realize of course that how one uses an iPad won't be identical to a laptop or desktop, but still, Apple must have had some rationale for that evolution. Isn't media consumption moving toward a widescreen environment, not away from it? Even the little iPhone has a 16:9 screen!
 
But the same argument applies for 4:3. You're getting more in one direction.

My counter is why doesn't Joojoo add width to their device and make it a 4:3. You're just getting more right? But suddenly you would be against it because it's now 4:3 even though the viewable 16:9 resolution is exactly the same.

arn
Right on. I was about to post the same thing.
 
You have to consider the limitations of design.

Apple wanted the ipad to fit within a certain size frame. It is easy to say that you "just add more length" but that makes the entire device larger. If they did that, you would all still be complaining about how you can't put a 12" tablet in your pocket. The only way to make the ipad 16:9 would be to trim the sides to give it less vertical real estate.

What would you prefer, a screen of 1024x768 or 1024x576?

I know my answer.

On the topic of storage, I can't believe how much you whine about your storage problems. I currently use have 8tb on my main workstation, mostly full of images. 2tb on my television and 640gb in both of my laptops. Storage is CHEAP. If you run out of room on a hdd, you buy a new one and add it to the cluster. Cloud computing means you go from using a fast USB2 or USB3 connection to your DSL connection... No thanks!
 
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