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Apple to Support Encrypted RCS Messaging in Future Software Update
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That's some deep dedication to the brand there, big shooter. I sure hope Apple rewards you well for your service, because it would be pretty sad to see you willingly sabotage your own social life to carry water for a trillion-dollar corporation that doesn't even know or care that you exist and for you to receive nothing in return.
Rich communication🤣 there’s nothing rich about it. It’s garbage.🙀 very limited in sending capability.
That was Apple's position, but it was an obvious lie: SMS isn't encrypted either. It was about selling iPhones. It always was.
To be honest, SMS is worse for security than RCS without E2EE. At least RCS is always encrypted in transit. SMS sends plain text all the way.
Both RCS and VoLTE are based on IMS architecture. Most of carriers have successfully transited from CSFB to VoLTE, and working perfectly. Then why they cannot make their own RCS server and just hand to Jibe to run it?
Running on Google Servers under Google's control. Google wanted Apple to route messaging through Google's systems, under Google's control.
Google didn't start with RCS servers, they wanted the carriers to handle it. The carriers never did, so google built their own.
It’s so asasine of apple to do this and it’s apple at its worse.
Just allow people to change the chat bubble colour. You know like every other chat / messaging app out there.
Generally this is great and I’d be interested to know how e2e will be implemented. Presumably the encryption is at the edge/device level?
Or do carriers have to flick a switch ? If so I can see that a lot won’t. And if it’s dependent on carriers hopefully it’ll be clear when encryption is not on.
Or do carriers have to flick a switch ? If so I can see that a lot won’t. And if it’s dependent on carriers hopefully it’ll be clear when encryption is not on.
Presumably the networks will need to update to support the new version of RCS (whether that be their own server or a third party server bought in).
Agreed. For those of you in the USA it’s hard to overstate how unimportant imessage is for the rest of the world.
Everyone really does use WhatsApp which has become a lingua Franca for messaging - whether you like it or not.
now this is news I care about…
what about audio calls between iPhone and Android? Is this something that can be incorporated down the line? I’m specifically referring to E2EE calls between iPhone and Android..
ETA: will this give us the option to toggle read receipts on/off?
what about audio calls between iPhone and Android? Is this something that can be incorporated down the line? I’m specifically referring to E2EE calls between iPhone and Android..
ETA: will this give us the option to toggle read receipts on/off?
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Not everything in UP is mandatory. Quite a few features are optional, like typing indicators or read receipts in groups (which coincidentally happens to be how Apple has always treated iMessage group chats).
Not sure what category the new tentpole features fall into, but I hope they‘re mandatory.
This will, at most, be relegated to a tiny tile on their iOS wrap up feature slide.
Since no network runs their own RCS hub on iOS, instead opting to provide Jibe endpoints, it will probably work right away once Google updates Jibe. There is a tiny chance that Apple exposes a boolean property to toggle this on/off for carriers in their carrier profile, but I don‘t think that happens.
You can already toggle read receipts on a global (via the toggle in the settings app) and contact basis (via the conversation info sheet). I have read receipts off globally for everything (iMessage & RCS).
I did read about people saying that it doesn‘t work for them (works for me though), so it‘s probably one of the many bugs that RCS on iOS has.
I'm aware but those features are mandatory.
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Think for a second, how do you think RCS currently works when you send a message from iOS to Android in the US.
Hint: all carriers in the US currently use Google Jibe and in order for cross carrier interconnectivity to work, they all have to connect to Google Jibe RCS Hub. All your RCS messages from iOS is routed through Google's systems under Google's control. Google does not need to demand anything of Apple, that is simply how it must work.
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