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This article tells me they are trying to move as far away from Google as possible. This makes me sad. Google is a great company and I only hope that Apple's maps application will either be as good as, or exceed google's maps already on the iPhone. That's going to be hard to do, though. What sucks even more is this lessens the chance that the google voice app will EVER be allowed back on the iPhone. But I could be wrong. With a different maps application, Apple may be willing to let Latitude back on the iPhone as a native app, and with it, google voice. But with apple, you never know. I don't like seeing Apple and Google fight. I like both of their products too much and I want to be able to use them both without jumping through any hoops.
 
Same here. I'm glad I didn't get the 3GS.

the only thing I dislike about my 3G is I SWEAR TO GOD that ever since the 3GS came out, they slowed down the 3G iPhone. What better way to make people want the "S" for Speed and make them upgrade.

meh... is it Apple or AT&t? I agree though that the iphone 3G has gotten slower.... but how much of that performance difference is due to Apple? I would say the burden of blame lies on both parties. Like you I am waiting for something better than the 3GS.
 
Same here. I'm glad I didn't get the 3GS.
It honestly didn't seem like enuff of a "upgrade" to me.
CAN'T wait for the 2010 iPhone tho! (I'm not gonna call it any name as of right now, 4G, 4GS....)
the only thing I dislike about my 3G is I SWEAR TO GOD that ever since the 3GS came out, they slowed down the 3G iPhone. What better way to make people want the "S" for Speed and make them upgrade.


Not a big upgrade? Its way bigger then the 2G to 3G iPhone upgrade
 
thank god, good bye google
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u cant wait for the day when i can just hold my thumb on the icon, and let it press the cross on maps
 
Not a big upgrade? Its way bigger then the 2G to 3G iPhone upgrade

I'm sure a lot of people will agree, iPhone 3G to 3GS is NOT much of a upgrade.
I never said anything about upgrading from a 2G. The 3G was my first iPhone and I dont see the 3GS as a worth while upgrade.
 
meh... is it Apple or AT&t? I agree though that the iphone 3G has gotten slower.... but how much of that performance difference is due to Apple? I would say the burden of blame lies on both parties. Like you I am waiting for something better than the 3GS.

Smart move on Apple's part if you think about it. What better way to make the 3GS shine.
Since the release of the 3GS I would say without a shadow of a doubt the 3G got slower. Ive seen a lot of threads where people are sticking to 2.x.x (cant remember the exact number) firmware because they swear its faster. That firmware is pre 3GS release.
Even on wifi my 3G is a dog sometimes. When I play around with my grandpas 3GS I always think "thats how my iPhone used to be"
 
I think Apple trying to play a game of brinkmanship with Google is a bad idea...and not because I think Apple can't win. With Apple's ZFS implementation breaking down Google wanting to move into the hardware world I think it's a match made in heaven. Google having the largest database of information on the plan one could argue that they know a thing or two about building the ever critical fast and efficient file system and obviously everyone knows Apple's capability in hardware. Google wanted to merge for years and Apple didn't...rather than Apple spending money to do something that Google already does well it would make more sense them to just cooperate and do so before some other player innovates their way into the market.
 
I guess we'll just have to see what it will look like. if it isnt as user friendly as google maps, (the best mapping out there), then it will really hinder my iphone usage.

Google maps has the best userabillity, because you can just zoom in easilly and type in just a single word and get results. Yahoo! has a great perk which is neighborhood color schemes, but you can't just look up an address, you need to put in directions and zooming in lags.

What I'd really like is an OS where we can have multiple apps running. It sucks when I'm walking and listening to last.fm and I have to get out to look at Maps or a newspaper site. :(
 
What I'd really like is an OS where we can have multiple apps running. It sucks when I'm walking and listening to last.fm and I have to get out to look at Maps or a newspaper site. :(

Yea I get annoyed with that to. I listen to Coast to Coast AM on AOL Radio every night and it does suck having to break the transmission to check a text message or something of that nature..
 
I can't see how it can get much better than Google's map viewer.

The ability to switch between standard map view, satellite imagery and see photos of the actual location itself all seamlessly has proven its value many times over for me.
 
I can't see how it can get much better than Google's map viewer.

Agreed, especially when you consider that Apple's own implementation of Google Maps is better than Google's on Android.

I don't really see this as a big deal. Apple may just need an extra hand on the Maps application considering they will have their own implementation of Google Navigation and probably apply voice control to it in OS 4.0.

Like another poster said, before Apple releases their own Maps solution, they had better make sure it is far better than what Google Maps already offers.
 
What I'd really like is an OS where we can have multiple apps running. It sucks when I'm walking and listening to last.fm and I have to get out to look at Maps or a newspaper site. :(

That was the main reason I gave my iPhone 3g up for. Even basic multitasking (1 3rd party app at a time) would have been enough.

I know that backgrounder worked on a jailbroken phone but I wanted something that could multitask as a core feature.

I'm sure Apple will address this eventually, especially with the 3GS (and beyond) with its extra ram.
 
Agreed, especially when you consider that Apple's own implementation of Google Maps is better than Google's on Android.

This seems to have all changed with the navigation added to Android 2.0 and now Adnroid 1.6. The Apple implementation on Google Maps (especially on the 3GS) had quite a few Android owners asking why Google had left them with an inferior version.

I can't wait to get 2.0 on my Hero!
 
Look at 3G data. The iPhone was a year late with 3G connectivity compared to most smartphones, but yet its release was many people's first 3G experience, and it now accounts for 50% of the cellular data usage in the world.

A year? Try 4 years, maybe not in the US, but in the rest of the world, I'd say that the iphone 3G/GS isn't as USA-centric as it the first generation was.

Which is why remarks that iChat and front facing cameras would "bring down the networks" annoys me, they might bring down the sorry excuse of a 3G-network that AT&T has (when I visited NYC this summer I was without any covergare for extended periods of time, in one of the most famous cities in the world).
But I dont really see any issue surfacing here in sweden where our largest telecom opeators are selling 3G modems at 14.4 Mbps en masse to consumers as an alternative to DSL.
and that's happening all over europe, and my guess is that japan is going the same route.

I dont really understand why AT&T are having such issues with this, yes, they have a larger geographical area to cover, but they could atleast make sure that the cities have good enough coverage.

But on topic: I really look forward to a rehash of the maps app, but at the same time it seems like a less important issue, there are larger issues to be fixed in the iphone before that.
 
I would have a hard time believing that Apple is only in the hiring phase for a developer to further the built in Maps app, which surely will be abandoning Google Maps in the near future...

...if it weren't for the fact that Apple all but abandoned in house iPhone software development the day they introduced the SDK. No reason to develop when you make money off of other's work.

(honestly, does anyone ever believe these stories the way the author seems to? It's much more likely that Apple makes fancy moves such as putting out snarky job ads to buzz the community)

I wonder how the original developer of the Maps app feels about this job listing? Is he not capable of copying off all the great Location-based app ideas and rolling them into one App? Surely he can.

currently they just depend too much on google maps.
may it be the iphone app, or in iPhoto to show picture locations, find my iPhone, ... and i guess there is even more.
 
you have to admit, when Apple jazzes stuff up it is impressive. I can imagine all types of new and clever features they could add to a mapping program. Go Apple. This is the type of stuff that sets them apart.
Funny how MS doesn't do this. Oh well.
 
I hear you. When they introduced the App store, I laughed heartily, and when I saw the icon, my jaw simply dropped. It's hard to say it was copied directly from Installer.app, but its even harder to say that it wasn't.

But this is what Apple does. Success in the consumer world is two fold: you need a solid idea, and you need to get it into people's lives. Many companies and proprietors succeed at the first task, but fail utterly at the latter.

Look at 3G data. The iPhone was a year late with 3G connectivity compared to most smartphones, but yet its release was many people's first 3G experience, and it now accounts for 50% of the cellular data usage in the world.

Good idea, medicore idea, stolen idea... makes no difference. Make people want it, and you WIN.
There is no denying that Apple has stellar marketing but I think you're missing the key element to Apple's success...

Have you ever heard the expression the difference is in the details? This, IMO, is what has made Apple such a successful company. Since we're talking about phones, let's forget OS X and iLife and iMacs and iPods and other Apple hardware/software. Let's simply talk phones. When the iPhone was released, there were other touch based products and certainly there were other smartphones but *none* of them brought it all together in a *polished* product like the iPhone. The ability to access all of your apps. with the flick of a finger without having to navigate through archaic looking submenus. Brilliant! The detail given to each and every application. Incredible! Take for instance, the phone app. Having favorites, recents, contacts, keypad and voicemail *all* available right there without having to navigate to a different app. Fantastic! BTW...I could be wrong but I don't think any other phone places all of these elements directly within the phone app. Also, have you noticed that if you close out the phone app. and return to it, it will be at the last sub-function you left it at? Pretty sure this is true for every app. Once again, the difference is in the details. Even syncing via iTunes and the App Store store experience was light years ahead of what other phones offered in terms of getting stuff *on* your phone and purchasing third-party apps. I could go on and on but I'm sure that most people will agree that in creating the iPhone, Apple married new technology and existing technology and created a product that was polished and approachable by the common man. *That*, my friend, is what Apple does so well.

Let me say that one more time - approachable by the common man. My g/f had a pre-iPhone smartphone which was very popular at the time. Let me get another cup of coffee in me and I might even remember the name of the damn thing. :D Anyway, it was <allegedly> able to play music and retrieve her email but hell if we could figure out how to perform either of those functions. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that I'm no uber-geek but I'm a pretty bright guy and I gave up on it.

Those who think that marketing alone will drive consumer sales is kidding themselves. Take the Motorola Droid, for instance. They had some *awesome* adds running on TV and their pre-release website was very cool but have you had any personal hands-on experience with the thing? If not, and you plan to do so, be prepared to be very underwhelmed. I'm not 'gonna turn this into an iPhone vs. Droid thread but it brings me back to my point that the difference is in the details.

To take this a step further, the reasons I have stated above lead me to believe that Apple will be equally successful with the iPad or iTablet or whatever you want to call it. The market has been established and there are already players including Kindle and Nook but they are all very, dare I say, boring! Nothing excites me less than to take existing print, format it into a PDF file or whatever and deliver it electronically to a device. -Yawn- Once again, Apple will marry existing technology and new technology and make said device approachable by the common man. Oh yeah...also, be prepared to be blown away. :D

Palm! That's what my g/f's device was. It was a Palm.

Rant over...
 
I guess we'll just have to see what it will look like. if it isnt as user friendly as google maps, (the mest mapping out there), then it will really hinder my iphone usage.

Google maps has the best userabillity, because you can just zoom in easilly and type in just a single word and get results. Yahoo! has a great perk which is neighborhood color schemes, but you can't just look up an address, you need to put in directions and zooming in lags.

What I'd really like is an OS where we can have multiple apps running. It sucks when I'm walking and listening to last.fm and I have to get out to look at Maps or a newspaper site. :(

maybe i am wrong, but i think the google maps app was done by apple, based on the google services.
and what they maybe do is taking the google part out of it, or make it redundant, just in case
 
- Pssst - You can do that on your iPhone. :D

but i think the google maps app was done by apple
The Maps app. UI is *all* Apple. They simply have a licensing agreement with Google to use that actual maps.
 
maybe i am wrong, but i think the google maps app was done by apple, based on the google services.
and what they maybe do is taking the google part out of it, or make it redundant, just in case

Apple wrote the software, Google provides the map tiles and related data.

Presumably, in addition to new features, Apple would like to replace the google data with its own data at some point.
 
Same here. I'm glad I didn't get the 3GS.
It honestly didn't seem like enuff of a "upgrade" to me.
CAN'T wait for the 2010 iPhone tho! (I'm not gonna call it any name as of right now, 4G, 4GS....)
the only thing I dislike about my 3G is I SWEAR TO GOD that ever since the 3GS came out, they slowed down the 3G iPhone. What better way to make people want the "S" for Speed and make them upgrade.

Ive been having the same problem, everything is so slow now. I actually spent hours looking for a way to go back to OS 2.X, but it is impossible.
 
I can't see how it can get much better than Google's map viewer..

Then you must not have seen Bing's Maps "Bird's Eye View" yet. Instead of staring straight down at indistinguishable rooftops, you have a diagonal ariel view that you can actually recognize things from
 
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