Not sure what some people are waiting for... and egg shaped MacBook Pro?
I do like the current design. The notch doesn't bother me. The notch is not invading your existing display area. It's more of 'extra display space' around the camera.
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Apple to Unveil 13-inch M2 MacBook Pro With Unchanged Design Next Month, Claims Original MacBook Pro 'Notch' Leaker
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I do like the current design. The notch doesn't bother me. The notch is not invading your existing display area. It's more of 'extra display space' around the camera.
Idk why everyone always claims has a giant inventory of XYZ part and that's why they keep using it, we are talking about Tim Cook's Apple, the master of supply chain.
At worst they maybe haven't hit a minimum order quantity, but more likely it's just cheaper to keep the existing tooling running vs creating something new.
At worst they maybe haven't hit a minimum order quantity, but more likely it's just cheaper to keep the existing tooling running vs creating something new.
This rumor really doesn't make a lot of sense. From a marketing perspective, why would you release a new chip, M2, in a not-redesigned / old form factor, 13" MacBook? That makes no sense. You'd want to release it on your flagship product. For the base model cpu, that'd be the Air.
In the current lineup, the 13" MacBook is really out of place. It is poorly differentiated from the Air. The additional cost is hard to justify for what you get.
It seems more likely to me that we'll see the M2 in a redesigned Air. Back-to-school is second only to X-mas for retail. For some retailers it's even bigger. Apple sells a ton of Airs for back-to-school. Getting a redesigned Air out in plenty of time so that there's inventory come mid-summer / early fall would be crucial. If we're really going to see M2 at this point in the roll-out of Apple Silicon, I'll place my money on it being in a MacBook Air.
In the current lineup, the 13" MacBook is really out of place. It is poorly differentiated from the Air. The additional cost is hard to justify for what you get.
It seems more likely to me that we'll see the M2 in a redesigned Air. Back-to-school is second only to X-mas for retail. For some retailers it's even bigger. Apple sells a ton of Airs for back-to-school. Getting a redesigned Air out in plenty of time so that there's inventory come mid-summer / early fall would be crucial. If we're really going to see M2 at this point in the roll-out of Apple Silicon, I'll place my money on it being in a MacBook Air.
Sure, but there is a difference between a $200 upsell and a $1300 upsell (base 13" MBA to base 16" MBP) or $1000 (base 13" MBP to base 16" MBP) for someone who just wants a 15"+ screen.
It makes total sense to me.
But the strategy will be much clearer once the new multi-coloured MacBook Air with white bezels appear.
This low-end MacBook Pro will target those who prefer a space grey finish and black bezels but don't need the power or expense of a M1 Pro.
Well just read this comment a few posts after yours...
So my M1 16" MBP is set to arrive in about a month, and now they have the M2 coming out?
I feel like canceling my order and waiting for the M2 refresh, but that may take another year.
Releasing a new model every year decreases the value of the device.
I do like the idea of having the TouchBar, I do find it very useful.
Its all about the price-point. Some people will always want a MacBook Pro, whether they need the extra power or not, so having a cheaper Pro makes sense.
Based on all of that, you should buy a used 16" TouchBar MacBook Pro. Great value and you get your touchbar.So my M1 16" MBP is set to arrive in about a month, and now they have the M2 coming out?
I feel like canceling my order and waiting for the M2 refresh, but that may take another year.
Releasing a new model every year decreases the value of the device.
I do like the idea of having the TouchBar, I do find it very useful.
I love the fact Apple releases new versions of their devices every year. I always buy at least 2-3 generations back to save 50-70%. I'm using an XS Max iPhone at the moment.
The only exception is my 14" MacBook Pro. I had bought a used 2015 15" Retina MBP in 2017, and it died 2 years later. In 2019 I couldn't justify buying a new MacBook given the crappy design, and that crappy design was keeping the 2015 model values high. I didn't want to invest in another 2015 model, so I waited 2 years for the new form factor.
Now, if you buy brand new and actually keep your device in perfect condition, keep all the packaging etc., you can sell it every 2-3 years and be about the same TCO as buying a 2-3 year old device and using it for another 2-3 years. In most cases the cost is about the same.
But the risk of buying a $1000+ iPhone and dropping/losing it keeps me on a cheap XS Max. My 14" MacBook is much less likely to be damaged or lost accidentally, so I didn't mind dropping the cash on it knowing the industrial design will last the next 5-6 years. I'll sell it in the last year or two perhaps of this run and bridge on an older used machine till the next major redesign.
no idea what that means but it made me spit out my coffee with confused uncontrollable laughter, so thank you
I'm among the few Touch Bar fans out there. I will miss it on my next laptop, as I nevertheless believe having a Pro Motion display and the notch (because of the larger screen real estate) is better overall than the Touch Bar.
Quick question: I use a second monitor. Would it be strange, noticeable, to have a Pro Motion display on the laptop and the second monitor not having it?
Quick question: I use a second monitor. Would it be strange, noticeable, to have a Pro Motion display on the laptop and the second monitor not having it?
They need a cheaper Pro model for the cheaper Pros. Or, they will just call it “MacBook,” which would be fine, too.
And how many of those who want a 15"+ screen are willing to settle for a 14" screen? If the proportion is high, Apple does not need the 15" MacBook in the lineup.
If the MacBook base model is 8/256, the customer base for the 15" model has to be huge. Otherwise, the market is covered by the 14" MBP with just a $100 upsell.
If the MacBook base model is 16/512, it will cannibalise the already relatively niche MBP line.
I think it will be renamed just ‘MacBook’ with the same design as the first M1 MBP. I don’t think they are gonna keep the Touch bar. Apple likely did that to throw off the leaker. I think Apple is using a similar strategy to the iPad.
iPad Mini - no Mac equivalent
iPad - MacBook (formerly Touchbar MBP)
iPad Air - MacBook Air
iPad Pro 11 - 14 inch Macbook Pro
iPad Pro 12.9 - 16 inch MacBook Pro
It’s really about having something at different price points that can pull a potential buyer into the ecosystem. Or just provide options to existing Mac users.
Let’s face it, the 14 inch and 16 inch MacBook Pros are very expensive and overkill for most average users.
"If the MacBook base model is 8/256, the customer base for the 15" model has to be huge"
I think it is. Apparently Apple's #1 notebook seller is the 8/256 13" MBA. I think you underestimate the number of people who don't need anything more than 8/256. It would actually be upselling those people who again would want a the bigger screen but aren't willing to pay basically twice as much for one (even say going from base MBA of $999 to base 14" MBP of $1999). That is a lot for one inch (actually less than 1").
Apple (most likely) is making a similar move with the iPhone 14 by adding in a regular Max model as there is a market for people who want the bigger screen but don't need or want the other features and cost that the Pro Max provides.
If it has a TouchBar I won't be upgrading !
Will consider one of the Mac mini instead !
Currently using an early-2015 13" MacBook Pro, & it has served me well w/ an Ext monitor (for App Dev, that is).
Will consider one of the Mac mini instead !
Currently using an early-2015 13" MacBook Pro, & it has served me well w/ an Ext monitor (for App Dev, that is).
I don’t really see where this assumption that Mac buyers are simple minded comes from.
Who exactly would get confused? If your workflow takes advantage of more CPU cores, bandwidth or GPU resources, the M1Pro and M1Max is of benefit to you.
(We don’t know the video codec support of the M2 so that remains to be seen.)
But it is a trivial matter to look at your wants and needs and pick what suits you, and your wallet, best.
Have some faith in your fellow Mac users. They are capable of tying their shoe laces themselves. And those who aren’t have figured out velcro. They aren’t confused that easily.
The new LOW PRO - less power, but feel like a pro using it.
The point of this product is smart: deliver good performance in an old design to use up old supply. Simple.
The point of this product is smart: deliver good performance in an old design to use up old supply. Simple.
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I believe it is called MacBook Air…so it is a MacBook? or not? Anyway, no fan, please Apple.
I also see it that way.
In my view there should be an Air line-up from 12 inch to 15 inch, and a Pro line-up from 13 to 16 inch.
