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What I want to know is, why is this being announced on a wednesday? What happened to new-product tuesday?

I don't think that there's been a new product tuesday since the intel switch. Everything's been announced on a wednesday IIRC, and no one's seemed to notice this, or they just ignore it.
 
???

How many people on here agree with me that any radio feature on the iPod is the stupidest, most worthless feature ever??? The reason I got a freaking iPod is because I hate the radio, and ever since I got an iPod the radio has never even existed to me lol. It's like including an 8-track player with the new iPod lol. Seriously... If someone really wants to listen to the radio go buy one of those little portable wireless radio gadgets for literally $2.00 because if that's what you want, you don't need an iPod.
 
Unfortunately, they would be offered in very few places, no doubt, only a handful of places in the states, so would be meaningless to the vast majority of iPod customers.

Disagree. A good initial rollout would be small banks of units in select terminals in the nation's top ten airports. Already you're talking about several dozen.

Add at least one in every Apple Store (you really can't make these and NOT put them in an Apple Store), and you have quite a lot of units in some of the country's most convenient locations.
 
Disagree. A good initial rollout would be small banks of units in select terminals in the nation's top ten airports. Already you're talking about several dozen.

Add at least one in every Apple Store (you really can't make these and NOT put them in an Apple Store), and you have quite a lot of units in some of the country's most convenient locations.

Where would they put them? All of the Apple Stores I've been to are pretty tight inside. Although the stores did recently change over from using set register positions to ringing credit card buyers up on the spot so maybe they'll remove the major register area in the store and use that for Apple kiosks. I still don't personally see the value in it (I've never walked through the mall and thought "Damn! I forgot that song on my iPod that I wanted. I'll be right back I'm going to download it at the Apple Store.") but maybe it'll be useful.
 
How can anyone get excited about a NAND only iPod? At most that would be a 32GB model instead of a 120GB one. I don't see it likely that the 120GB model would be axed from development for market this soon in the approaching but not yet ready for prime time NAND era. :rolleyes:

We need a large HD inside an iPhone like interface with a 640x360 screen (1/3 HD res

The problem is that having a large screen + a mechanical hard drive is the perfect formula to drain a battery as fast as you can. I personally believe that the iPod Touch or whatever it is going to be called will not have a hard drive.

Here is the new iPod line up to be expected:
- new iPod nano " the leaked ones"
- new iPod Touch "with 32 geg NAND"
- iPod video (same as current) with upgraded hard drives and updated firmware.
 
Omg!

If Apple uses wifi for connecting with nearby ipod users, and adds a radio, Microsoft should do a "Cupertino, start your photocopiers ad". This will be a Zune with coverflow. My Creative Zen from 3 years ago had a radio, played video (avi, mpg, divx, mp4, mp3, ogg, etc) had a built-in recorder. Apple needs to revolutionize, not copy.

Apple BETTER NOT disappoint us with crippled wifi and a radio. Give us a phoneless- iPhone.

Dude, the future is about wireless, being able to buy a song wirelessly is a feature everyone wants and every gadget will have, its not really a copying issue. Apple will definitely implement it a LOT better though.

AND once and for all will you people freaking realize how stupid it is to expect a phoneless iPhone??? If they do that, they might as well proclaim the iPhone a failure right now, it would be suicide for the iPhone. The iPod is a digital media player.... The iPhone is a communications device, so if you want those features buy a damn iPhone and quit expecting Apple to make the stupidest business decision in history.
 
I agree, and dont understand why people think Apple is going to build a product that cannibalizes iphone sales. Also, keep in mind that chips that make an iphone a phone probably cost less than 5 dollars.

Dont hold your breath for a flash based Video iPod. The Video-Nano will play video and be flash. The full size iPod will still be HD based because the storage-to-cost ratio is still beneficial as such.

this is what i love to hear. if apple released a phoneless iphone, i would be devistated with my iphone.
 
But it won't be a good roll out. Initially, the states first, and then, maybe 12 months later will a select few other countries receive these units.

We see this over and over again.

Apple stores aren't in good locations in all countries, for example, 3 in Canada - Toronto only, none in Germany, 1 in Paris ( France), a few in the UK.

WIFI iPod would be prove to be far more beneficial to users, and more accessible.

Disagree. A good initial rollout would be small banks of units in select terminals in the nation's top ten airports. Already you're talking about several dozen.

Add at least one in every Apple Store (you really can't make these and NOT put them in an Apple Store), and you have quite a lot of units in some of the country's most convenient locations.
 
My turn to speculate:

iPod Touch-Screen
120GB HDD
BlueTooth A2DP
WiFi to support the iTunes Music Store, iTunes Radio, & YouTube
There will be no Safari or internet access
 
My turn to speculate:

iPod Touch-Screen
120GB HDD
BlueTooth A2DP
WiFi to support the iTunes Music Store, iTunes Radio, & YouTube
There will be no Safari or internet access

Definitely NO youTube. When the iPhone was introduced, it was shown in the keynote as 3 separate devices merged into one; an iPod, a Phone, and an internet communicator. YouTube is part of the third, hence you won't see it in an iPod.
 
Ok

I mentioned this in an earlier post. At the last conference call where Apple gave, once again, conservative guidance, the reason cited was that the company was introducing "transition" products. My guess at that time, and now is that it means transitioning to all flash based product line, even if the capacity is only 16, possibly 32 GB of storage. This may result in lower margins for Apple as well as a loss in sales to those wanting more capacity, hence the caution if forecasting the quarter. There may be one top end HD model in the $399 to $449 price range. If there is, it will likely be the last one.

I can understand that... Think about it, I understand that all you people with tons of media want lots of storage, but eventually Apple will switch to Flash, and Flash will never have the capacity of Hard Drives at a comparable price, so no matter when they switch you guys will want more and more... You will never be happy. Honestly, tell me I'm wrong ;)
 
To offer anymore than that with wifi would be really stupid because it would really hurt the iPhone, can't you understand that from a business point of view???

It does not hurt I phone sales. If wifi is only for playing back audio/video on a home system via airport express or apple tv. Then safari needs a subscription type provider. Why can't AT&T sell two or three data only plans. They have the technology. I said this in another post. Apple did not spend all that
R & D money on one product that ONLY hi end AT&T users can buy and use. That is way too small of a market for that kind of investment. With a two or three year exclusive It's too small of a growth product. I don't think S.J. is that dumb. If the I phone was sold unlocked may be a different story. There are a lot of users who want a I phone but are not willing to change cell providers just for a phone any phone. But I'd pay $20-40 a month for internet access on a I pod type device. For some of us 8 gigs is not enough we need 80 plus so again that kind of out lay of cash for an 8 gig Iphone is a deal stopper. No buy!! What this mean is that there is at least two types of hi end apple user that needs (ok wants) a new hi end toy. Apple knows that also.

I'm done now
Dean
 
Direct wifi connection from anywhere to your home computer would be sick.

Say you forgot to update a few things, go to a wi-fi hotspot, and you can update it from your computer at home, its almost like you have all your music with you.

Just give and take what you want as long as your receiving wi-fi, this almost goes hand in hand with the new direct-link to your computer capabilities on leopard

and if you have this option, whats the need for high capacity ipods? flash will do you perfectly as long as you can swap your music anytime you want.
 
I think some people are dreaming just a tad too big with this 6G iPod? What more should we expect other than a slightly revamped interface, bigger storage and possibly better WiFi implementation. Seriously, my expectations are rather modest for this one. I don't expect much more than a possible *single input* touch screen (larger display), bigger hard drive and maybe WiFi. I don't see the purpose of multitouch on a device that won't be used to the same capacity as an iPhone. There's always the possibility that it won't even HAVE a touch screen. As much as I like the iPhone interface and all, I still want an iPod that can get equal to better playback time to my current 5.5G 80GB. Anything that requires more processing power and more energy sucking components may not cut it.

Mobile purchasing sounds nice and all, but I'd seriously like to have the option to have this disabled as well, because there's always the possibility that this can pose a big problem if someone's ipod is stolen.

WiFi syncing is what I really would like to see. If you're running off to work and decide that you want to snag another track or two from your computer, you simply connect to your computer's iTunes library wirelessly (provided you leave your system active most of the time) and simply zip some songs over. That alone would make the WiFi worth it to me.

Regarding flash to storage, hard drives will not go away for a very very long time. As prices for flash drops, as will the prices of hard drives, and currently hard drives offer decent lifespans (though not so much in durability comparably) and are much cheaper per gig. Flash will get much better and eventually replace HDD's, but not this year, that's for sure.
 
Yup!

I want to upgrade but not if they use flash memory. With the push of Apple towards T.V. shows and movies, I need a lot of space. I am hoping for at least 160gb maybe even 300gb of space.

You've got a very good point. I think they are enabling the video on the new Nano to really push TV and movie content sales, and if they did low capacity Flash iPods they are kind of shooting themselves in the foot. But like I said, whenever the Flash transition happens, the high capacity people will never be happy no matter what. I think they will keep one touch model with a big HD and that will be the last one.
 
???

I saw a media player the other day that had bluetooth, so when you got a call on your cellphone you could leave the cellphone in your pocket and answer it via your media player.

While I doubt that Apple would do this (because it blurs the line between iPod and iPhone), I think it would be a nice feature: a wide-screen, touch-screen video iPod that can make/receive calls through your existing cellphone via bluetooth.

LOL but how exactly does it work, because if you still have to answer through a device whether its your phone or iPod that seems pretty pointless and worthless. Oh, now I only have to take my iPod out of my right pocket to answer my phone instead of taking my phone out of my left pocket lol. Am I missing something?
 
Seemingly the thing that would make this an iPhone killer (possibly, by some opinions) would be unrestricted Wifi. Well, don't forget that Apple are pretty big on artificial (read: crackable) restrictions these days.

There are ways to run certain versions of OS X on generic Intel hardware, also ways to run 3rd party apps on the iPhone. Apple doesn't seem overly fussed about the occasional geek doing this. If you're not bothered about the potential legalities, even a crippled wifi ipod could be made somewhat more powerful, and it'd hardly affect anything as it'd only be amongst a small minority of geeks.
 
Direct wifi connection from anywhere to your home computer would be sick.

Say you forgot to update a few things, go to a wi-fi hotspot, and you can update it from your computer at home, its almost like you have all your music with you.

Jesus H! That would be freakin cool!

Just imagine it, when you sync your iPod with your home Mac's iTunes, it also transfers the entire list of songs in your home Mac's library. Then, like normal, you drag over the songs that you want to always be on your iPod.

When your iPod has no wifi signal you'll see the songs loaded on your iPod in normal black letters, and the songs that are not currently on the iPod will be greyed out. Then when you get a wifi signal, at work or wherever, suddenly you'll see available ALL the songs in your entire home iTunes library! The songs that are not loaded on the ipod but available over wifi will be listed with a slightly different color and when you hit play on one of those songs there'll be a second or two buffering and then your song sitting on your home computer will start playing on your iPod at work!

Freaking cool!
 
No!

I would love to see an iPod that would have the WiFi functionality of the iPhone. This would make it the ultimate Entertainment device.

No, that would make it a communications device, which is what the iPhone is and the iPod will never be! The iPod will eventually disappear and be replaced by the iPhone. The future is having ONE portable device like the iPhone that does it all, and of course that will include a monthly bill, I hate to break it to you. ;)
 
How many people on here agree with me that any radio feature on the iPod is the stupidest, most worthless feature ever??? The reason I got a freaking iPod is because I hate the radio, and ever since I got an iPod the radio has never even existed to me lol. It's like including an 8-track player with the new iPod lol. Seriously... If someone really wants to listen to the radio go buy one of those little portable wireless radio gadgets for literally $2.00 because if that's what you want, you don't need an iPod.

A coworker of mine ended up buying a Zune because the iPod doesn't have radio integration. Some people want it, and they don't want to have to carry around separate devices.
 
Nice!

Guys,
I think the radio thing may have some truth to it, but may be related to another capability. Sonos recently added the capability to stream Sirius radio over their whole house music system. What is the killer app in the Sonos? The remote. What does the iPod video deliver, the remote, tie that to AppleTV and you have a really interesting Sonos killer. Not only could the iPod control the Apple TV with full coverflow album art, but it could also cue up and control videos. You could imaging sharing tunes from an iPod just as you can from up to 5 other Apple devices to AppleTV. This opens up the possibility of sharing a persons iPod wirelessly and seamlessly with someone's AppleTV. The whole radio thing might provide the ability to wirelessly control internet radio streaming over either AppleTV or iPod, just like Sonos.

Just a thought.

A very good thought. Steve said that the Apple TV would see something new soon. I'll bet you are right on :)
 
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