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Ming-Chi Kuo pretty much knows what's going on.

I had hoped the tall iPhone wasn't real, but it looks like Apple has decided to provide another resolution, additional aspect ratio, and require all new after market parts for docking.

I don't doubt all of these will sell well, but this doesn't seem like a smart move.
 
With the Nexus Tablet having a 7 in. 1280x720 display, a quad core CPU, and a very good Tegra 3 GPU for just $200, the new iPod will have to be really cheap to even be in the race. Frankly, I am surprised Apple would even consider releasing a new iPod touch at this point.

Yeah, the Nexus Tablet... Here today, gone tomorrow.

If the Kindle Fire didn't cause any damage to Apple's revenue, hardly anything will.
 
I can't image Apple producing an aluminum front iPod touch unless they're releasing them in colors like the nano.
 
The iPod touch community is kids whose parents won't spring for an iPhone yet. It's like an iPhone with training wheels. They don't need an update because soon they are older and get their own damn phone. Come on Mom, I'm going to college, how am I gonna call you and ask for money.

not always, I have an iPhone and will be buying the new iPhone however due to pricing I'd rather also get an iPod touch to let my friends play with, use as the music player in my car via bluetooth, and be my jailbreak testing device so that I don't mess up my entire iPhone, and have to spend two hours restoring
 
The next iPhone will come with a 19-pin connector rather than the 30-pin port on the current iPhone and iPad ”to make room for the earphone moving to the bottom,” two Reuters sources who are “familiar with the matter” said.

Apple has recently moved to a new dock connector on the iPhone Pro with Retina Display and sells an accessory so the new charging port is compatible with older chargers.

The move to use a new dock or charging port would save some space and may also allow the phone to be thinner.Which brings us to another rumor. Last week The Wall Street Journal reported that Apple will use a new type of thinner screen that will integrate the touchscreen right into the LCD.

On the current iPhone, the touchscreen is a layer on top of the LCD. The new screen technology, which is said to be currently in mass production, would allow the iPhone to be thinner. Previous rumors also suggested that the phone would have a slightly larger 4-inch display (the current iPhone has a 3.5-inch screen) and use the second generation of Gorilla Glass, the durable glass that covers the current iPhone. That glass is also thinner, although it provides the same level of protection.

iPhone

Yep.

Unless this analyst is being burned (seems unlikely as he's a supply chain analyst with a proven record) we now know the following:

~The new iPhone leaked before WWDC--likely causing Tim Cook's talk of doubling down on security.

~Tim Cook, oddly, seemed to deceive everyone with is "one phone one size, one resolution" quote. Not only are they going to be selling multiple sized phones with different resolutions, they'll not even share a common aspect ratio.

~The new iPhone will continue to have a tiny screen. It looks to be even harder to hold.

Android is starting to look less fragmented then ever, with a far larger user base, not looked down to Apple's walled garden. If I were a developer, it seems like I'd be developing for Android.

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Yeah, the Nexus Tablet... Here today, gone tomorrow.

If the Kindle Fire didn't cause any damage to Apple's revenue, hardly anything will.

But you're overlooking the fact that Apple has been forced to build a 7-8" tablet in the first place. Remember how they were never going to do that?

And yeah this should push the price of the touch down considerably...so even less reason not to abandon iPhone for a cheaper and technologically superior phone from a competitor.

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not always, I have an iPhone and will be buying the new iPhone however due to pricing I'd rather also get an iPod touch to let my friends play with, use as the music player in my car via bluetooth, and be my jailbreak testing device so that I don't mess up my entire iPhone, and have to spend two hours restoring

Or, if the mini pushes the touch down enough in price you can get a better phone from someone else, get a new touch for cheap and not feel like you're abandoning all your apps in Apple's ecosystem.
 
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Don't really care.


Just improve the sound.

That's where the iPod started. A good product, well designed, ergonomic with style, and yet AN GOOD-AVERAGE SOUND QUALITY

Come on Apple... Improve the sound.

And what about ALAC on ithe iTunes Store - let alone FLAC?

Come on.

Apple you always were an innovator - but you are drifting behind in the sound quality.


Ann
 
Android is starting to look less fragmented then ever, with a far larger user base, not looked down to Apple's walled garden. Seems like I'd be developing for Android.


You're saying something just happened which made having 2 possible resolution/aspect ratios for iOS handhelds more "fragmented" than having all of the many different ones for devices running Android?

And I'm not sure the "far larger user base" for Android is a slam dunk from a development standpoint, just ask Madfinger games. Seems like you need a far larger user base that also is willing to buy your app, unless it's free.
 
You're saying something just happened which made having 2 possible resolution/aspect ratios for iOS handhelds more "fragmented" than having all of the many different ones for devices running Android?

And I'm not sure the "far larger user base" for Android is a slam dunk from a development standpoint, just ask Madfinger games. Seems like you need a far larger user base that also is willing to buy your app, unless it's free.

You have two resolutions for iPads, at least two for iPhone (3 if you count the 3Gs), and now three aspect ratios (iPhone, new iPhone, iPad).

I'm not saying people will stop developing for iPhone. What I am saying is that none of these developments makes it easier to develop for them, while Android continues to become easier to develop for and provide better hardware (all with a larger user base which continues to grow).

Wouldn't you HAVE to develop for Android at this point? Sure, you'll develop for iOS too, but you'd be silly to ignore Android.

As Apple stagnates, Android hardware now leads the way, Android OS continues to improve, app development will continue to shift over to Android.

This leaves Apple with an expensive product that used to be cool.

I love my iPhone, but I'd say it's likely now I'll be moving to a flagship Android phone soon. The only Apple product that really interests me is the new mini-iPad...and we'll have to see what price point that comes in at.
 
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Since the galaxy s came up. Great device for music or kids. 80$ used on eBay. Just for someone on the fence about a touch.
 
You have two resolutions for iPads, at least two for iPhone (3 if you count the 3Gs), and now three aspect ratios (iPhone, new iPhone, iPad).

I'm not saying people will stop developing for iPhone. What I am saying is that none of these developments makes it easier to develop for them, while Android continues to become easier to develop for and provide better hardware (all with a larger user base).

But the resolutions that are exact multiples do not really "count"- they are extremely easy to develop for once you start supporting the higher resolution device (you just need one high res bitmap and then a "1/2 sized" version). It's not like they require a re-layout of your app.

I think if you ask most developers that develop for both platforms which one is easier (from a resolution/aspect ratio perspective) they'll tell you it's still MUCH easier on iOS devices. And that's not to mention the different CPU and GPU nuances are far more varied on devices running Android.

You're right, Apple changing screens doesn't make things easier, but it has a pretty long way to go before it reaches Android-like complexity. And any developer worth his/her salt isn't going to find much of a problem adapting to a new resolution/aspect ratio every few years which is the rate Apple seems to be going (again, I don't count exact pixel doubles as being a serious problem for developers).
 
Hello, finger print magnet.

Are you thinking of Pewter? Look at any anodized Aluminum MacBook or any Brushed Aluminum kitchen sink. Finger prints are pretty difficult - unless they're covered in pasta sauce or fresh paint.

However, after 5 minutes of use with a freshly cleaned iPod Touch will leave the mirrored-polished-steel back covered in finger prints. It's always been that way...

Android is starting to look less fragmented then ever, with a far larger user base, not looked down to Apple's walled garden. If I were a developer, it seems like I'd be developing for Android.

Android is LESS fragmented than Apple?

Apple may introduce a new aspect ratio. If they do, there will be a 3rd market for iOS Apps under the new ratio. There are currently only 2 - iPod Touch & iPhone, or iPad. A developer then chooses to update the App for Retina capability. Even still, you had better believe that the older Apps will be compatible with the new iPhone.

That was a pretty clueless comment. Android is less fragmented? Don't make me laugh.
 
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The New iPhone

Do you guys realize that on the new iPhone, it's going to be very close to the iPod touch. They're not going to make the iPhone display just taller, and make the iPod display wider and taller. The iPhone renderings that have been leaked are fake. Also, if there is a metal back on the iPod touch, and there has to be one on the iPhone. My conclusion, the New iPhone renderings that where leaked are fake! (all of this was done with dictation on my MacBook Pro!)
 
If the iPod touch will be announced in September, it means that Apple will show its first 4" display before the iPhone launch?

That would be strange. The iPod touch has always been updated after the iPhone.
 
Wow, a lot of mocking in this thread.

I think it is more likely a misdirection leak than anything, but . . . .

The useful purpose for such a hole is a place to click your iPod into a mount, likely a car mount.

Apple wants to sell you a Mac, an iPhone and preferably an iPad too. Wouldn't it be great (for them) if they could sell you yet another device for each car or bike?

Look for the click hole on an iPod Touch and an iPad 7 for usage in "places".

Or it's just a misdirection leak to catch a leaker.

Rocketman
 
The useful purpose for such a hole is a place to click your iPod into a mount, likely a car mount.

Apple wants to sell you a Mac, an iPhone and preferably an iPad too. Wouldn't it be great (for them) if they could sell you yet another device for each car or bike?

Look for the click hole on an iPod Touch and an iPad 7 for usage in "places".

Rocketman

I like it! An iPod touch or 7" iPad for every car! Navigation. Also maybe with 4G cell data - a local hotspot for your car.
 
Are you thinking of Pewter? Look at any anodized Aluminum MacBook or any Brushed Aluminum kitchen sink. Finger prints are pretty difficult - unless they're covered in pasta sauce or fresh paint.

However, after 5 minutes of use with a freshly cleaned iPod Touch will leave the mirrored-polished-steel back covered in finger prints. It's always been that way...



iOS has a smaller user base than Android?

Wait, wait...

Android is LESS fragmented than Apple?

Apple may introduce a new aspect ratio. If they do, there will be a 3rd market for iOS Apps under the new ratio. There are currently only 2 - iPod Touch & iPhone, or iPad. A developer then chooses to update the App for Retina capability. Even still, you had better believe that the older Apps will be compatible with the new iPhone.

That was a pretty clueless comment. Android is less fragmented? Don't make me laugh.

No Android is clearly far more fragmented than iOS, that would be a silly thing to say. What I'm saying that as things are going, Android is becoming easier to develop for.

And, I could be wrong, but I believe Android does have a larger user base.
 
Pretty sure he meant without a phone number attached to it like the iPad.

Every 3G subscription, even if it's dedicated exclusively to data, has a number attached, that's simply how the 3G standard works. Your iPad-data-only 3G subscription can potentially be used to make phone calls if you put the SIM-card in a device that supports it and your carrier hasn't actively restricted that service.
In other words, a 3G iPod touch wouldn't be anything less than an iPhone without the phone app.

...because it's the 5th generation. Did a chart with 5 iPhones confuse you?

If iPhone 4 and 4S is the same generation then surely the 3G and 3GS is the same gen as well, which means 3G/3GS == 2nd gen, 4/4S == 3rd gen and upcoming new iPhone == 4th gen. Can't you see your logic eats itself?
 
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