Because the next update will probably coincide with Apple Retina LED Display, and break compatibility with non-retina laptops.
only half sarcastic.
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Apple to Use 'San Francisco' Apple Watch Font in iOS 9 and OS X 10.11
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Because the next update will probably coincide with Apple Retina LED Display, and break compatibility with non-retina laptops.
only half sarcastic.
anything that is less thin...
than that current iOS font looks like an improvement to me.
Same goes for OSX. Hated that thin font from the start. And those "looks like Android" comments. I wouldn't be surprised if Android would get a horrible thin font in the next version because Google thought when Apple does it, it must be sexy and reverse that decision in the next one afterwards.
than that current iOS font looks like an improvement to me.
Same goes for OSX. Hated that thin font from the start. And those "looks like Android" comments. I wouldn't be surprised if Android would get a horrible thin font in the next version because Google thought when Apple does it, it must be sexy and reverse that decision in the next one afterwards.
What exactly is "Android-ish"? Roboto, like San Francisco is very similar to Helvetica and Din. Helvetica Neue is a great print font.
It's not easily readable, for example. Neue is also ugly, but that part is subjective.
SF provides much better readability. Has nothing to do with Android.
To my eye, it looks rather similar to Roboto (the default font in Android)...I understand that Apple likes to have product lines to have somewhat similar interface elements so this doesn't surprise me. I guess I need to see it for real rather than some mockup to make a decision.
This is slightly off topic but I hope iOS 9 offers some big improvements and maybe even a complete overhaul of CarPlay. It is 1/2 there and certainly functional but it has the potential to be "insanely great" and it is just not there yet.
This is slightly off topic but I hope iOS 9 offers some big improvements and maybe even a complete overhaul of CarPlay. It is 1/2 there and certainly functional but it has the potential to be "insanely great" and it is just not there yet.
I can confirm that you will have a choice.
San Francisco font will be the standard font in iOS9 but, if you don't like that font and wish to stick with the original iOS font, don't update from iOS8.
Who nose.
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I don't like either. They're both effeminate.
I prefer Georgia.
I tried using San Francisco on my Mac but didn't like it. I felt that the tracking was too tight. When you replace Helvetica with another font, you're still using all the metrics that Apple uses for Helvetica, so it looks bad in places.
I agree it does look rather odd in some places, which is one of the reasons I hope 10.11 uses it as the default despite my already using it to replace Helvetica Neue. For the most part it still looks better than Helvetica, but takes a little getting used to.
That time on the lock screen is absolutely dreadful. Do they not know about kerning?
How come when I install San Francisco font on my font book on Yosemite I still can't choose it on the font picker on Outlook?
I can't hear Apple talking about using San Francisco as a font without thinking of Susan Kare's original San Francisco
Installed fonts regularly have problems working with office.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/295062/
It's not that Helvetica is hard to read, but that San Francisco is designed for smaller sized fonts to be better legible. It's the little things that matter
It would be interesting to see how much of this is caused merely by marketing. Apple no longer run ads on a regular basis that show where they're ahead of their competitors. They just show a product and let their competitors bash them.
After all, one of Apple's ads focused solely on the MagSafe adaptor. Another where PC is playing "Pick-A-Vista".
They could run similar ads with iPhone: Free, quick updates on iOS vs months of waiting on Android. Point out Android 5.0 adoption rates. / iPhones come with a slow motion-camera and iMovie which work together beautifully. / Touch ID lets you get into your phone quickly, pay for things in-app and now, with iPhone 6, let's you buy things in-store. / etc
A hint that this may be happening is on the WWDC invite, under the ominously worded tag line, "the epicenter of change," the font used for "WWDC15" is San Francisco.
Scott Forstall... Brilliant. 10/10.
Easier ways of picking fonts in Notes would be lovely as well.
As long as the Bold option doesn't go, I'm good though. I've bad eyesight, and that function saved iOS for me.
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I know the icon thing was a joke... But I actually do. I've organised them so the colours are matched with rows.
blue red blue green black white. It's so pretty I feel so happy when I see it. I'm being legit here btw.
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I like it.
I like Helvetica Neue as a font but I also miss Lucida Grande. It seems SF has better readability then HN but is more stylish then LG.
good to see a lot of the haters find their way to this thread with their pompous opinions and reviews
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it's a macrumors news thread, some people would still be upset if Apple released a time travel device.
No joke that was a dream I had about a month ago. It could only go 20 years back though, and everyone was pissed about that.
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It was originally "Think Differently". The ad company made a typo, and offered to change it for free, but Steve loved "Think Different", so they went with it. It's different.