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Apple to Utilize Anti-Reflective Glass in Next-Generation iMac?

Low reflection anti-glare screen, a chin job, easily access drive bay(s) would be prefect. Well for home anyway for the office if that easily accessed spinning hard drive could be replaced by a 15min battery pack that would be a great option. A smallish SSD blade drive, limited size so users can't keep to much stuff on their machine which should be on the server.

(design offices = dirty power, grubby staff who like to touch screens and occasionally plug out plugs then moan about lost work)
 
Yamcha said:
I've always preferred glossy display's, and my reasoning has always been that with matte display's like the one I currently own HP ZR22W S-IPS.. There always seems to be that sparkle or grainy effect, where as on glossy display's you don't see this..

I'm a Web Designer so when I'm working on designs I often use the noise effect, but It's hard to differentiate between whats actually just a Photoshop effect versus the sparkle/graininess that's on the monitor..

If the rumour is true then awesome, I'd love to see glossy screens with anti reflective glass, would be best of both worlds..
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The HP ZR22W isn't a pro display for design works. It's standard, not somewhat wide gamut display doesn't meet wider designer's demands. Sure you should consider buying some good colorimeter (calibrator) X-Rite' device, such as i1 Display 2 or i1 Pro, or the new ColorMunki Display, depending on your budget, and you probably should buy one of the Nec displays among their P or SpectraView series models, which supports internal programmable LUT and cold cathode backlit for wider gamut.

I've got no issues with dark / middle tones or small details on my NEC 3090WQXi IPS antiglare display. By the way, NEC is the only producing backlit evenness control option for their professional displays, which is critical for panels ≥ 23"-24".

Here you may read more about display technologies, and some really useful display testdrives: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
 
Neodym said:
Your assumption is wrong. There are different ways to reach an anti-glare effect, one of which is that "frosted" effect from using an etched surface and thus diffusing the light rather roughly.

Proper anti-glare is done in a way that the glass still feels smooth, e.g. by using a special coating that diffuses the light much finer. Examples are e.g. optically coated eyeglasses.

So unfortunately the next iMac may still be the suction-type one...
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Right, thanks for the info. Suction cups it is then... (probably)
 
Great news if true

For me it's long overdue and has been the main reason for me not upgrading old equipment.
 
I don't understand how this problem hasn't been sorted already, it's 2012 for god's sake!
 
kalsta said:
I would have actually listed this as the only benefit of the glass covered displays—the fact that you can touch them and easily clean them. With the naked matte displays, you really shouldn't touch them at all, but unfortunately some people do. (I'm forever telling my kids to keep their fingers away from the Mac screens—it's the iOS generation after all!) Maybe the reason you don't have to clean the matte screens as much is because those users are conscious of not wanting to damage them, or perhaps partly because you can't see the oily finger smudges as clearly. I'm reminded of people who say they don't like timber floors because they are harder to keep clean than carpet. Wrong! They are easier to keep clean, but carpet hides the dirt better so you're not aware of the dust your house is accumulating.
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People still touch the Matte displays, but because of the fact that you get a kind of colourful rainbow blotch every time you do, they only ever do it once. I've worked with hundreds of Apple matte displays, mostly on iMacs, being used by the most careless people you could ever meet, and no one has ever damaged a Matte display, even without a glass cover. They also somehow remain remarkably clean, or as you say hide the dirt well. But glass screens on new iMacs, especially in a room filled with natural light look SO grimey after a day or two of normal usage and take forever to clean properly. Fine if you've got one, but over 100, forget about it! I won't even go into other reasons why i don't like glossy displays, but i really would like a matte screen option again on iMacs.
 
Awesome News if correct!

Personaly I sold my iMac to my Sister because every time i wore a white shirt, the refelctions made the center part of the screen unuseable.
(and to those saying "just reduce ambient light and wear something dark": I am not Batman, so working in a dark cave and wearing all dark cloth makes me depressed which equals not being able to work productively either :p)
 
I thought I read Apple is considering anti-reflective glass

I thought I read Apple is considering anti-reflective glass...but I couldn't tell for sure because of the glare on my screen. ;)
 
"Been using non-reflective glass for framing posters since forever. I've never understood why Apple never offered this option on their screens."

The iMacs -did- have a matte screen until the introduction of the "aluminum" iMacs around August of 2007. "Matte" may be different than "non-reflective", but the result is similar from the vantage point of the viewer.

I bought one of the last "white" Intel iMacs just after the aluminum models were introduced, so I could get the matte display instead of a glossy one.
 
BOOO, matte screens look ghetto and crappy. Not Apple like style. Plus colors are more vibrant, The older white iMac's with matte displays look like crap compared to todays silver, black and glass iMac. This would be terrible, I 'm waiting for the new iMacs and better cpu/ gbu but if they throw off a glassy glossy cover all together that would eliminate the order for me. Besides, go buy a antiglare screen film cover.
 
So could we really expect Apple to make a 5320x2880 resolution display for a 27" iMac? Has Apple actually figured out how to make interface elements in OS X not become super tiny with such a ridiculously high resolution?
 
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How are anti-glare screens already 'on' Apple laptops? I thought the 'matte' option simply removed the glass--or is this AR glass on the MBA?

I would be willing to buy a MBP with a glass screen if it were anti-reflective, like in the articles linked above.
 
kalsta said:
Wait… You're saying you would actually choose to have reflections on your screen, even if the technology was available to make the anti-reflective screen equal in all other respects? :confused:
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Yes, that would be what I said three times now. On an iMac, yes, on an iPad/ iPhone, no. Some people actually have different preferences from your own- I know, shocking, right?
 
I feel like a right freak of nature - am I the only person here happy with my iMac? I'm happy with the performance, reliability, build quality and all the features - does that make me a bit of an oddity on this website?
 
basesloaded190 said:
This sure would stop a lot of pissing and moaning from people hating the Glossy screen. It also will probably sell more for those who refused to buy them with the current screens
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In my personal opinion, the people who complain about the glossy screen and say the reason why they don't buy iMacs is because of the screen are just looking for an excuse not to buy the iMacs. In my personal opinion.

Who knows, maybe some people who have been holding off on buying a desktop Mac, so had to resort to Mac minis and plug in an anti-glare screen, will finally get their wishes fulfilled and be able to buy an iMac.

I dunno. I just didn't see much into the glossy screen ultimatum...
 
MrNomNoms said:
I feel like a right freak of nature - am I the only person here happy with my iMac? I'm happy with the performance, reliability, build quality and all the features - does that make me a bit of an oddity on this website?
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People could be overall happy with their iMac - but that doesn't exclude there being quirks that annoy them; the glossy display being one such thing.
 
I would be happy for a matte screen on my iMac, but this seems like a strange reversal for Apple. They have been shifting towards glossy screens for a long time (especially in the laptops). Glossy screens make photos and videos look better, when the sun or other lights aren't causing an issue with reflections.

Personally I use my iMac in a room with a lot of windows, so I have to re-tilt it frequently to avoid reflections. It's not a big deal since the screen is easily tilted.

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pkson said:
In my personal opinion, the people who complain about the glossy screen and say the reason why they don't buy iMacs is because of the screen are just looking for an excuse not to buy the iMacs. In my personal opinion.

Who knows, maybe some people who have been holding off on buying a desktop Mac, so had to resort to Mac minis and plug in an anti-glare screen, will finally get their wishes fulfilled and be able to buy an iMac.

I dunno. I just didn't see much into the glossy screen ultimatum...
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Maybe people love their iMacs, but they would also be willing to accept improvements.
 
soundr said:
I would be happy for a matte screen on my iMac, but this seems like a strange reversal for Apple. They have been shifting towards glossy screens for a long time (especially in the laptops). Glossy screens make photos and videos look better, when the sun or other lights aren't causing an issue with reflections.

Personally I use my iMac in a room with a lot of windows, so I have to re-tilt it frequently to avoid reflections. It's not a big deal since the screen is easily tilted.

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Maybe people love their iMacs, but they would also be willing to accept improvements.
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I guess so.

I like my iMac, MBP, MBA, iPad, iPhone, and white Macbook all in default glossy, but as mentioned.. everybody has preferences. so.. :eek:
 
Mr-Stabby said:
But glass screens on new iMacs, especially in a room filled with natural light look SO grimey after a day or two of normal usage
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I would not consider it "normal usage" if people touch the screen on every computer they see. Maybe the exhibited screens in a store, but in a working environment? Maybe an attached sign would help, reading "This is NOT a touchscreen!"...
 
Neodym said:
I would not consider it "normal usage" if people touch the screen on every computer they see. Maybe the exhibited screens in a store, but in a working environment? Maybe an attached sign would help, reading "This is NOT a touchscreen!"...
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It's mostly because half of the classes involve students pointing stuff out to other students or staff on Final Cut or Photoshop, so it's really unavoidable.

Plus these are 16 year old students we're talking about here. Over 250 of them. There is not a chance in hell you're going to get them all to remember this. One of our teachers actually started fining students (for charity) every time they touched the screens. Even after 3 months, they were still doing it. Maybe it's because they're used to touching screens now on their iPhones. Unfortunately it's a habit that will never be broken. I've never seen an iPhone screen look so bad though. We don't allow food or drink in the classrooms, so it's not as if they have dirty hands, it's just the screens show off any kind of touch.
 
I can understand how it might be difficult for some to work on the glossy screen in brighter environments but come on. The glossy looks so much better AND produces a superior picture. I can't stand that "sparkle" antiglare screens produce, it's simple hideous. Someone also mentioned they don't finger print... and only require cleaning once a month are you kidding, the fingerprints are there building up between your eyes and the screen.
 
Marx55 said:
Sign the petition for anti-glare screens at MacMatte:
http://macmatte.wordpress.com

Maybe with the "Invisible Glass":

Japanese Firm Develops ‘Invisible Glass’
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20111028/199970

Amazing Invisible Glass Kills Glare Dead
http://gizmodo.com/5854321/amazing-invisible-glass-kills-glare-dead

‘Invisible glass’ could reduce display glare, fails as food-in-teeth mirror
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/31/invisible-glass-could-reduce-display-glare-fails-as-food-in-t
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Awesome thanks, I hadn't heard about that. I kinda assumed it would be some sort of current technology, i.e. anti-glare coating that diffuses light. Downside is it's makes the screen look grainy and does not work well if Apple is moving to ultra hi-res displays.

So yea, this would be waay better. I hope Apple secures a giant supply (as usual), and uses them for everything--would be awesome in the rumored Apple TV set.
 
It's so obvious.
A matte iMac display is the only way to keep us graphic designers on board when they kill the Mac Pro...

Unfortunately I have never been a huge fan of the all-in-one design for desktops.
Because I'm a major fan of upgrading choice.
:mad:
 
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