Apple to Wait Until at Least 2020 to Release 5G iPhones

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple won't release an iPhone that can connect to 5G data networks until at least 2020, claims a new report out today.

    According to Bloomberg's sources, Apple is planning to delay its support for the next generation of high-speed mobile services coming in 2019, just as it did for previous generations.

    According to Bloomberg, Apple delayed support for previous mobile network upgrades because it accurately predicted that the first versions of rival smartphones would suffer from problems like poor coverage.

    However, 5G advocates argue that delaying support for the upcoming network upgrade is a bigger risk for Apple, since it represents a much bigger speed boost over previous generations, making the leap from 4G to 5G significant enough to become a major selling point for new devices.

    5G advocates believe the danger for Apple is that it will be left behind by rivals like Samsung, who could exploit the delay and attract more consumers to its Galaxy smartphones, which are expected to support 5G networks next year. Likewise, Chinese mobile makers Oppo and Huawei have also signaled that they plan to offer 5G phones.

    Bloomberg suggests that Apple's decision to wait another year before supporting 5G could be related to the company's feud with Qualcomm, a leader in 5G-enabled chips, and it's partnership instead with Intel, which won't have 5G chips ready in time for 2019 phones.

    Rumors late last year suggested Intel and Apple were already working on 5G chip technology for future iPhone devices. Intel is said to have thousands of people working on 5G tech to catch up with Qualcomm and win Apple's 5G modem contract.

    Huawei and Samsung have the manufacturing infrastructure to build 5G modems, but Apple is said to be unlikely to use chips from its smartphone rivals, who could struggle to produce adequate supplies for the iPhone's huge volumes anyway.

    Whatever the reason behind the delay, some analysts believe Apple's decision could have an impact on its iPhone customer base.

    "Apple has always been a laggard in cellular technology," said Mark Hung, an analyst at Gartner who spoke to Bloomberg. "They weren't impacted in the past, but 5G is going to be much easier to market. But if they wait beyond 2020, then I think they'll be impacted."

    Article Link: Apple to Wait Until at Least 2020 to Release 5G iPhones
  2. Omega Mac macrumors 6502

    Aug 16, 2013
    Tin foil hats will be de rigeur.

    5G has a smaller cell area does it not?

    Maybe I can walk so my head is between the coverage blackspot like skipping between the cracks on the pavement. There will be an App for this (pending).
  3. rmoliv macrumors 6502a

    Dec 20, 2017
  4. bluush macrumors 6502

    Apr 20, 2007
    Classic Apple. Be the last one on the block to show up to the party, and charge the highest price for the honor.

    Every product that could be out in 2019 is now pushed to 2020. Every other company will beat Apple to the punch.

    "Think Different. Act much later."
  5. BootsWalking macrumors 6502a

    Feb 1, 2014
    Which means by the time these 5G iPhones come out Apple will be charging $2k for the base model with an LCD display.
  6. recoil80 macrumors 68020

    Jul 16, 2014
    I'm fine with that, I have an Xs and don't need to upgrade every year. I'll buy my next iPhone in 2020 or 2021 and I'll get 5G
  7. Omega Mac macrumors 6502

    Aug 16, 2013
    How must have is 5G and will the coverage even justify it's inclusion versus maintaining profit. It's a delicate balance.

    Most people probably won't even notice.

    Now, I give you my timeless base criteria for upgrades.
    • Larger storage tiers.
    • Longer Battery.
    • Processing power.
    • Doesn't bend easily.
    • Screen tech/size.
    Hitting 3+ of these at a time is enough to make a move.
  8. newdeal macrumors 68020

    Oct 21, 2009
    5G, using up your data plan in a fraction of a second since 2020
  9. FelixDerKater Contributor


    Apr 12, 2002
    Nirgendwo in Amerika
  10. Grey Area macrumors regular

    Jan 14, 2008
    I don't think there will be much of an actual need to have 5G before 2020 (and maybe not even for many years after). But reports like this are probably not very helpful to the 2019 iPhones. ("Buy our new iPhones, the last previous generation phones we will make!")
  11. Omega Mac macrumors 6502

    Aug 16, 2013
    That's the point though isn't it. They want users to have a good experience. So the carriers need to get both their networks and plans in ironed out and in place so the end user doesn't have a sour experience.

    The majority Apple iPhone customer is not an early adopter other than maybe wanting the latest iPhone, but they don't want people using a speed boat in the shallow en doc the pool. They're waiting for some sea frontage to open up.

    I does love me an-a-na-logy.
  12. Sasparilla, Dec 3, 2018
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    Sasparilla macrumors 6502a

    Jul 6, 2012
    Apple has always waited a year or two after new cell / mobile tech comes out to get the 2nd generation tech before putting it in their phones and it's never hurt them (past 1st generation tech - 4G if memory serves, had power consumption problems that was flagged in reviews at the time...but the 2nd gen 4G tech didn't, which is what Apple used, good choice on their part).

    5G in particular seems much more of a benefit to providers (who want to compete with cable / DSL with it with the extra speed and user number capacity) than with users (assuming you're not needing to download massive files instantly onto your iPhone). There was a real user benefit with 4G with streaming video etc., but for most users I doubt they'll notice 5G. JMHO...
  13. tromboneaholic macrumors 68040


    Jun 9, 2004
    Clearwater, FL
    You lost me at Bloomberg.
  14. bbplayer5 macrumors 68030

    Apr 13, 2007
    Ill be honest, I hardly even use the speed of LTE, let alone a 5G option. 5G seems more geared for home internet.
  15. one more macrumors 6502a

    one more

    Aug 6, 2015
    Fair enough, we should be well into 2020 by the time the 5G technology matures and is widely available. In Europe it is still in testing phase in selected areas and it is almost 2019.
  16. neuropsychguy macrumors 65816


    Sep 29, 2008
    Considering you have a new iPhone, a new Apple Watch, and a new MacBook Air, that seems like a reasonable decision anyway.
  17. azentropy macrumors 68020


    Jul 19, 2002
    Since Apple currently isn't making a form factor I'm interested in with the trend towards larger and heavier phones, I'm not planning on upgrading until I absolutely have to anyway.
  18. iapplelove macrumors 601


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
    I’m really in no rush for 5g phones. I can’t reallt complain about the LTE speeds from AT&T in my area, it’s pretty damn quick already.
  19. swingerofbirch macrumors 68040

    Oct 24, 2003
    The Amalgamated States of Central North America
    I think I drop more calls on my iPhone now than I did back in the mid 2000s on whichever phone I had then. When I do get good reception, speeds are more than good enough. So faster isn't really of great interest to me. I'm on Verizon in a fairly well populated area where Verizon is the best carrier and we had a recent power outage for a few days so I couldn't use Wifi. During most of that time Verizon's cellular data did not work in my house (had to go outside).

    I would like better reception, though. The only thing I want faster on my iPhone are the USB speeds, which are about as fast as the very first iPod that came out in 2001 except now instead of transferring 5 GB of data they are transferring up to 512 GB!
  20. snowboarder macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2007
  21. Smartass macrumors 65816

    Dec 18, 2012
    Apple is planning to delay its support for the next generation of high-speed mobile services coming in 2019, just as it did for previous generations.

    That is true, but with previous generations Apple had so much advantage in comparison to competition, that they could actually afford something like that. Just remember 1st iphone, no MMS, or really bad camera etc... With today's competition, Apple cant afford to be, yet again, the last one to implement new tech, especially something as ground breaking as 5G.
  22. Anawrahta macrumors member

    Sep 9, 2005
    I don't think it will impact them at all. LTE Advanced is already quick enough for most mobile applications, including streaming HD video. The only thing I can see faster data speeds being useful for are VR and 4K or 8K video, but honestly those are all outlier use cases on a mobile device. Surely down the line there will be new applications we don't know exist that will take advantage of higher transfer speeds, but until those are popularized it doesn't make sense to worry too much about the added cost and potential battery drain.
  23. macsrcool1234 macrumors 65816

    Oct 7, 2010
    5G is meaningless. Burn through data caps faster. LTE is more than fast enough for anything a phone would need to do.
  24. Val-kyrie macrumors 68000

    Feb 13, 2005
    This simplifies my life--I won't buy an Apple laptop until the stop producing them with the flawed scissor keyboards and I won't buy another iPhone without 5G.

    Phones should never bend easily--ala the iPhone 6+ which could bend or warp because it got too hot from normal use.
  25. NinjaHERO macrumors 6502a


    Aug 29, 2008
    U S of A
    Eh, I'm still dropping calls on 4G. And since my understanding is that 5G has a smaller signal area, I'm not in a rush.

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