Apple Tops Microsoft in Third Quarter Revenue

*LTD* said:
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Quite telling. Apple's a fraction of MS' size, employs a smaller workforce, and has a smaller R&D budget. And look at what's happening. Pretty embarassing for Ballmer. But no surprise at all.

Wasn't Windows 7 supposed to kill the Mac? What happened there? Apple ended ip selling *more* Macs, do much that they're now the third largest PC manufacturer.

The real conundrum is why Ballmer hast had his fat, non-performing ass fired yet.
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The only reason he's still there it's because he's one of the founders...nothing else.
 
dgree03 said:
But the only reason people can say Apple HARDWARE is overpriced is because there is other competition out there that sells computer hardware also. Microsoft doesnt really have alot of competition in the markets they touch especially Windows and Office.

Also I would imagine software making more profit because once its built and developed that same software can make the same money over a longer period than hardware can make.
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no, the only reason people say its overpriced is because relative to the competition, it is overpriced.
windows would likely sell for less if there was competition while apple continues to sell for more whilst having much competition.

its not a bad thing... they sell premium products, but thats definitely why theyre considered overpriced.
 
I bet he will have to eat his words one day soon ...

Steve Ballmer June 2010 " ...there is no technology company in the planet which is as profitable as we are."
 
That is the worst chart I've seen. The X axis is labeled so inconsistently. There are obvious jumps (probably Christmastime) but they aren't labeled.
 
Microsoft can't afford the Xbox for much longer

HLdan said:
... He can't live off the Xbox forever.
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Microsoft has lost billions on Xbox and Xbox 360. Just Google "General Hardware Failure" or "Red Ring of Death". Estimates on the hardware failure rate of Xbox 360 run from 24% to 52% due to poor hardware design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

Only now, after five years on the market, is Xbox 360 actually breaking even. The original Xbox lost billions, and Xbox 360 has terrible failure rates, which costs Microsoft dearly. Here's a quote from that Wikipedia article:

"Through 2005, the Xbox gaming division had lost over $4 billion..."

Nintendo doesn't consider Microsoft to be any kind of threat. MS is tied with Sony at a distant number 2, Nintendo being far ahead. Nintendo actually (correctly) believes that Apple is the number 1 threat. Their profits are down, and their mobile gaming devices are being blown away by iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad.

Just give it up, Ballmer. Microsoft shouldn't be in the consumer electronics business. Microsoft isn't even really in the software business. They're in the Windows + Office business, which is stagnant and locked into the past.
 
NebulaClash said:
Isn't it amazing to see how much of a profit Microsoft makes on their revenue, yet it is Apple who gets called "overpriced" for their products (mostly hardware involving real material and production costs)? Talk about overpriced, Microsoft sells bits and licenses and rakes in the dough.

Just not as much dough as Apple now.
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Two errors in this post. First, Microsoft got more dough (profits) than Apple. Secondly, it is pointless to compare revenues for different types of business. The higher revenue for hardware manufacturer is expected. Apple pays Intel, Samsung and Foxconn $16B for chips, LCD panels and manufacturing. hen they add their software and sell the product for $20B. Microsoft on the other hand (exaggerating here) may simply sell their software for $5B and have $5B in revenues and $5 in profits. Notice how HP's annual revenue is way higher than Apple's: $123B vs $65B.
 
theOtherGeoff said:
the real issue for MS isn't Apple, it's Google. Google and MS are both SW services companies. As apps move to the cloud, Google is the hungrier, more agile adversary.
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After watching some of the PDC keynote today I think Microsoft has got a very good head start here. They have a clear strategy and good products.

*LTD* said:
The real conundrum is why Ballmer hast had his fat, non-performing ass fired yet.
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Harsh appraisal of someone heading up a company which makes billions in profits every quarter.
 
elppa said:
After watching some of the PDC keynote today I think Microsoft has got a very good head start here. They have a clear strategy and good products.
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Their head start is they have established a corporate beachhead that generates relicencing and upgrade and support revenues in the billions, and they can sell like IBM did in the 80's and 90's leveraging that established corporate relationship. Google walks in and it's "What can you do that's better than MS?" And all they can compete on is price and more scalable architecture (any organization that is using Win 200x servers isn't scalable to the extent Google is, I don't care if Bill Gates himself is doing production support, MS can't scale like google can).

Much like there is still a mainframe in every data center for a company over 15 years old, there will be a MS presence in every corporation that has microsoft exchange servers running for the next 20 years. Corporate inertia is what MS will survive on, it certainly isn't it's online services or entertainment divisions.
 
Factor in the next 2 years Enterprises will start deploying Windows 7 and Exchange 2010. Microsoft isn't going anywhere.

theOtherGeoff said:
I'd rather have them buy Samsung (get flash memory, monitors, and that AppleTV TV).
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That would NEVER EVER EVER happen. Samsung is a huge conglomerate.

Samsung brings in almost 5 times more revenue than Apple.
 
theOtherGeoff said:
that's not a dream... that would be a nightmare. Name me one reason apple buying microsoft would be good for apples bottom line.

I'd rather have them buy Samsung (get flash memory, monitors, and that AppleTV TV).
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Or buy nothing, use every company to your advantage as best as you can and leave all those companies to bite each others throats. Basically what Apple does now. Smart huh.
 
PsudoPowerPoint said:
I'm happy to see this for Apple, but I'd really like to see MS wake up and start producing better products.
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Are you dumb?

What about the 360?
What about 7?
What about WP7?

Or are you one of those people living in serious denial because your iFashionAccessory still gets looks at the nearest Starbucks?
 
Umm...to all the raving fanboys...MS still made over a billion more in profit. Kinda funny you guys cling to the one number that puts it in Apple's favor.
 
*LTD* said:
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Quite telling. Apple's a fraction of MS' size, employs a smaller workforce, and has a smaller R&D budget. And look at what's happening. Pretty embarassing for Ballmer. But no surprise at all.

Wasn't Windows 7 supposed to kill the Mac? What happened there? Apple ended up selling *more* Macs, so much that they're now the third largest PC manufacturer.

The real conundrum is why Ballmer hast had his fat, non-performing ass fired yet.
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Why do you hate MS and Ballmer so much? Did he molest you as a child?
 
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