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Apple Trademarks 'Mac Pro' in U.S.

p0intblank said:
Are you kidding? Not to sound rude, but you obviously didn't think about my post very clearly. The name 'Mac' is already present in iMac. Also Steve Jobs even said himself that they are moving away from the 'Power' name and putting Mac in all their computers' names. Therefore, Power Mac becomes Mac Pro, just like how the PowerBook became the MacBook Pro. Notice how the name 'Mac' is in MacBook Pro? The same goes for the new MacBook. iMac and Mac mini, they are fine because the 'Mac' name is already present.

This really is rather basic...
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Not to sound rude, but you obviously aren't thinking at all. This is a pretty trivial argument, but if you're going to argue something so trivial, you could at least do it well. ibjoshua's right; you should really reserve your condescension for when you have something to be condescending about.

p0intblank said:
Some people will never understand this! :(

The iMac was one of the first Macs to receive the Intel upgrade. Therefore, the name iMac is remaining how it is. Why? Because the name Mac was already there to begin with, unlike PowerBook and iBook. Notice how the PowerBook became the MacBook Pro? iBook is now MacBook... and soon the Power Mac will become the Mac Pro.

Following?
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Okay, p0intblank. Let's follow your argument slowly and rationally:
1) iMac stays "iMac" "because the name Mac was already there to begin with"
2) For the same reason "PowerBook" has to become "MacBook Pro" and the "iBook" has to become "MacBook"
3) For no reason at all, "Power Mac will become the Mac Pro"

...what?
Somewhere right around where you put in an elipsis, there should be an argument. But there isn't. So all you've said is "Macs that don't have 'Mac' in the name (such as PowerBooks and iBooks) need to have their names changed. Those that already have 'Mac' in the name (such as the iMac) do NOT need their names changed." And then somehow you conclude that PowerMac (which has "Mac" in its name exactly as much as "iMac" does) obviously MUST have its name changed to "Mac Pro."

Again, this is a trivial argument and sortof a dead end. Try giving thought another chance. It obviously didn't work the first time. And as far as being snide goes: you're still doing it...and with no more justification than you had originally. Stop.
 
portent said:
"Mac Book," "Mac Pro" and especially "Mac Book Pro" will never sound right, at least to English speakers. Why? Too many "stop consonants," too close together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_consonant

That's the linguistic way of saying of, "It just doesn't flow." The air flowing out of your mouth actually has to stop as you pronounce it. It also explains why "Pro Mac" sounds better than "Mac Pro."
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I couldn't have said it better m'self.
 
absurdio said:
Not to sound rude, but you obviously aren't thinking at all. This is a pretty trivial argument, but if you're going to argue something so trivial, you could at least do it well. ibjoshua's right; you should really reserve your condescension for when you have something to be condescending about.



Okay, p0intblank. Let's follow your argument slowly and rationally:
1) iMac stays "iMac" "because the name Mac was already there to begin with"
2) For the same reason "PowerBook" has to become "MacBook Pro" and the "iBook" has to become "MacBook"
3) For no reason at all, "Power Mac will become the Mac Pro"

...what?
Somewhere right around where you put in an elipsis, there should be an argument. But there isn't. So all you've said is "Macs that don't have 'Mac' in the name (such as PowerBooks and iBooks) need to have their names changed. Those that already have 'Mac' in the name (such as the iMac) do NOT need their names changed." And then somehow you conclude that PowerMac (which has "Mac" in its name exactly as much as "iMac" does) obviously MUST have its name changed to "Mac Pro."

Again, this is a trivial argument and sortof a dead end. Try giving thought another chance. It obviously didn't work the first time. And as far as being snide goes: you're still doing it...and with no more justification than you had originally. Stop.
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Maybe my explanation wasn't the best, but I am still standing by what I originally believed. I believe the Power Mac will become the Mac Pro because a) they are moving away from 'power', b) there seems to be a pattern with the 'pro' name developing here; after all the Mac Pro <i>is</i> meant to be used by pros, is it not? and finally c) Apple just trademarked the name Mac Pro

So please, tell me what you're not understanding from this. And I'm not trying to "snide" anyone here. These are forums; they are meant for discussion.
 
O.K To stop all the confusion!!!:

Apple will not change the iMac name!! They already have Intels in them, and most shocking of all..... they already have Mac in the name!!!! WOW!! think of that :eek:

The only reason that Apple might change the PowerMac to Mac Pro would be so that it is distanced from the PowerPC chips! Not becuase the name Mac isn't in the front.
 
Apple Trademarks 'Mac Pro' in U.S.

Instead of everyone complaining about the name Macbook, Macbook pro and Mac Pro why not just change how you say the name. No one is stopping you for calling it something else. Like for example Microsoft is dubbed MS. Why not just shorten Macbook/MacbookPro/MacPro to M-Book/MBP/M-Pro simple as that.:)
 
Clive At Five said:
Every time I say "Mac Book Pro," it sounds like I'm quacking.
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Be sure to save copies of your important files at work, so they don't fire you. After all, you wouldn't want to get the sack for lack of a Mac Book Pro backup!

Actually "Pro" is a clever word in a product title. You want it to indicate that the product is suitable for a professional without alienating those who buy other models. I think the word "prosumer" evolved partly because nobody would admit they were less than a professional.
 
Clive At Five said:
The iMac seems all alone too... As unlikely as it is, maybe Apple will settle for iMacPro.
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iMac, iPod, iPod Nano, iPod Shuffle, iLife, iWork, iTunes, iTunes Music Store, iDVD, iMovie, iPhoto, iChat, iCal...how exactly is iMac all alone?

Looks like to me it fits in well as your best choice to do all of that "i" stuff with. Heck it even looks like a giant iPod. Having a computer branded in a similar way as one of the most popular consumer electronics devices of all time can only be a good thing.
 
maybe...

...the powermac stays the same, but there is a new mac, the mac pro, a headless iMac with the option to upgrade the GPU for example, like a late cube replacement :)
 
Abercrombieboy said:
iMac, iPod, iPod Nano, iPod Shuffle, iLife, iWork, iTunes, iTunes Music Store, iDVD, iMovie, iPhoto, iChat, iCal...how exactly is iMac all alone?

Looks like to me it fits in well as your best choice to do all of that "i" stuff with. Heck it even looks like a giant iPod. Having a computer branded in a similar way as one of the most popular consumer electronics devices of all time can only be a good thing.
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I completely agree. I look at the iMac as the family-type computer. It's perfect in any room you put it in, as well as any person you assign its use to.
 
I think the Mighty Mouse should be renamed to the Mac Mouse.

Apple Cinema Displays should be renamed to Mac Monitors.

And the Apple Pro Keyboards should be renamed to Mac Keyboards.

Not only am I a marketing genius, I'm also in touch with the new direction of Apple and should clearly have a senior position there.
 
p0intblank said:
Are you kidding? Not to sound rude, but you obviously didn't think about my post very clearly. The name 'Mac' is already present in iMac. Also Steve Jobs even said himself that they are moving away from the 'Power' name and putting Mac in all their computers' names. Therefore, Power Mac becomes Mac Pro, just like how the PowerBook became the MacBook Pro. Notice how the name 'Mac' is in MacBook Pro? The same goes for the new MacBook. iMac and Mac mini, they are fine because the 'Mac' name is already present.

This really is rather basic...
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This really is rather silly.

You didn't actually write in your first reply what you now say you were thinking. You said nothing about Apple intentionally dropping 'Power'. You said they didn't change the name of the iMac "Because the name Mac was already there to begin with,". Well, as has been pointed out, the name Power Mac also has 'Mac' in it so that argument was pointless. I must at this point apologise, I did in fact know about Apple's desire to move away from using the word 'Power' in their products and at that point could have politely corrected you and guided the conversation back to something more worthwhile. However I couldn't resist the opportunity to mess with you when your ill-conceived reply to my post popped up. It's hard to resist the opportutnity to be a smart-arse, as you so obviously know. Sorry. ;)

I guess what it comes down to is that you really didn't understand my original post. Let's recap: I made some silly jokes about possible names for the iMac that would actually comply with the new naming 'scheme'. Then went on to ask if anyone else thought the whole renaming process was dumb. I never said I didn't understand the process. In fact it seems I probably understand it as well as you, if not better. The 'i' in iMac doesn't really fit into the new scheme at all, otherwise we'd all be wanting iMacbooks and iMac Pros or some such nonsense.

I hope you don't take too much offence. Just remember, when you try to talk down to people, get your arguments sorted out beforehand.

ibjoshua
 
I'm dreaming but.......
Wouldn't it be cool if they came out with a new mini that had some kind of 'dock' connector, and Apple sold a base that plugged in there that would add PCI and eSATA ect. Then consumers would either buy the iMac or the Mac Mini and Prosumors would buy the Macmini + Exp Dock.
Heck...I don't care to much for my idea but I just wanted to let that out.

I would settle for a Macmini with an ExpressCard34 and a 64mb Dedicated video. May be they will introduce a MacMini Pro......like an ultra tiny tower with 3 PCI slots, an Upgradable video card, and an expresscard slot. (I see a real potential for ExpressCard. Since it is based off of two well known standards (USB 2.0 and PCI Express) it is easier and quiker for dev to created devices for) If Apple were to add ExpressCard to the desktop line (what I can afford) I would make a few prototype EC/34 cards designed for my own purposes.....

What I want...MacMini Pro..the prosumor Macintosh tower
$800-1499
Core Duo 2.16GHZ in the highend model
Core Solo (?GHZ) in the $800
3PCI slots
ExpressCard 34 (or 54)
128MB Dedicated video card (upgradable)
Extremely small tower.....I will try to Photoshop the MacMini and make a MacMiniPro!
 
What I want is a real high end machine....

Dual or Quad Dual Cores... A real Graphics card not this 128mb crap.

You guys are shooting to low!
The lowest end consumer Laptop for kids has ironically a 2.0 Ghz Dual Core. While the Pro Laptop has the same exact thing.... utterly pathetic. The High-end G5 is end of life... while it is fast now... its end of life.

256mb (7800 Nvidia) VRAM - 1GB RAM - DUAL (DUal Core) - At least. Apple should partner with a graphics card company to make something exciting.

Oh also live with it -

Its Mac Pro,Macbook & Macbook Pro ... learn to love the names - PowerMac is no more. Stop this childish bickering & whining..it won't change a thing Apple is NOT going to change the names back to powermac or any other lame names you come up with.
 
Personally, I sure as hell hope they keep the PowerMac name. It just sounds so much more kick@$$ than anything else they could come up with i mean seriously.

Mac Mini (Aw that's cute, look it's soo small...what do you mean it runs windows too...sweet.)

iMac (Uh, dude, where's your computer?...What do you mean that is the computer....and it's watching me....dooood....)

PowerMac (Wow...you have a PowerMac. :eek: I don't run Os X but i suddenly wish i did just so i could have one of these...PowerMac...)

Mac Pro (So...it's a mac...that's cool)

Now the BigMac. That might be the sweetest deal ever. Just for comedic value. But I might lose all respect for apple for dealing with the devil.
 
ModestPenguin said:
Personally, I sure as hell hope they keep the PowerMac name. It just sounds so much more kick@$$ than anything else they could come up with i mean seriously.
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I agree, PowerMac just sounds like a powerhouse. It also differentiates itself from the rest of the line. Mac Pro just MBP sans book.

Then again, who cares what they call it. It is what's packed inside that will count. I know whatever it is, it is going to be a beast. I can't wait to get one.
 
Mac Above iMac Below Mac Pro Seems Like A Logical Additional Model Space, But...

slackpacker said:
What I want is a real high end machine....

Dual or Quad Dual Cores...
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Me too. But it's my understanding that you cannot put 4 Woodcrests on one motherboard. So Quad Core 2 Duo, IE 8 cores, can not happen until pairs of 4 core Kentsfield or Cloverton processors :confused: (not sure which) can make 8 cores on one motherboard next Spring.
Unorthodox said:
Does this mean their going to make computer called "Mac"?
--Laptops
MacBook
MacBook Pro
--Desktops
Mac Pro
Mac (previously known as "iMac")
Mac mini
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poppe said:
I really hope they do because it kinda feels like there is a desktop missing... I know there is the iMac but... it feels to consumer oriented... I kinda want that middle ground between the G5 and the iMac.. maybe the GMac. Just kidding.

But more so something that is tower like with upgradibility and a higher processor than the iMac but not a workstation processor like the G5.
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I agree. There seems like room for an expandable, customizable level that is a hair more powerful than or the same as iMac with a 2-3 of PCI Express slots, choice of graphics card(s), monitor(s), dual 5.25" external bays and room inside for 2-4 SATA drives. But it's impossible to second guess Apple's gatekeepers - IE Steve Jobs and Phil Schiller. :rolleyes:

I think its safe to say all will be revealed in the San Francisco WWDC August 7 SteveNote. Meanwhile it's just a guessing game. Woodcrest Quads could be announced before then. But yeilds may be low enough to begin with that waiting until August 7th for the announcement is not too far out.
 
Multimedia said:
Me too. But it's my understanding that you cannot put 4 Woodcrests on one motherboard. So Quad Core 2 Duo, IE 8 cores, can not happen until pairs of 4 core Kentsfield or Cloverton processors :confused: (not sure which) can make 8 cores on one motherboard next Spring.
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Tulsa is the Core 2 that supports 4 or more sockets - so an octo-MacIntel is easily doable.

Apple won't though. They haven't even come up with a 2U or 3U Xserve - or even a quad core PPC970.

They aren't interested in the server business - look at how the Xserve has been neglected, and the Xserve RAID is still Ultra ATA - not SATA!

HP's 4 socket Xeon is $28K for a reasonable config (4 dual-core 3.0 GHz Xeons, 8 GiB RAM).

No way you'll see a 4 socket system from Apple anytime soon.
 
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