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I mean... it probably can, via emulation or binary translation, but it’s likely not going to be fast.
Which defeats the entire purpose of this transition. In order to obtain the benefit of ARM one will need native ARM applications. I have no doubt many applications will make the transitions, especially the big boys. However there will be a significant amount which never will. Leaving emulation / translation as the only option.
 
I don't think anyone is claiming that the decision was made lightly. But there are definitely casualties to the choice. I've got an office full of developers, most of them using macOS as their primary development machine. It seems unlikely that we'll be able to support macOS on ARM with our build process which requires x86 virtualization and container compatibility. All of those developers at my company are on "their last Mac" (or, more accurately, will not be able to transition to ARM based Macs).

Now, it's quite possible that Apple will gain more new customers than they will lose from this transition, and if that's the case then it was a wise decision for them to make. It doesn't mean that some people will be left standing on the side of the road looking for a new ride, though.



That same team of MBAs and PhD/master degree engineers also decided that the 2013 Mac Pro was a great idea and we all know how that turned out.

High end iMacs (i9 level), iMac Pro and Mac Pro are the last that will get upgraded. And we will see updates to these in the next 2 years. These will be supported for 5+ years so you can still get a "next" Intel Mac.
 
No, they won't. The Macs are not selling in large enough quantities to justify a custom chip design. It will maybe have a a few more cores enabled, but nothing dramatic.
ummm yes they will....

there is more to sales than just...they dont sell enough. its corporate customers who buy iphones and mac's. they will most definitley have custom chips. this is a chance to shine against x86 in a far superior way. the world is transitioning to arm.

they can drive the cost of a mac down when the R&D for chips is spread out over every device.
 
Yes, for example all iPad and iPhone apps.
As I said above, go to the App Store top 100. Cross off any app that already has a Mac native counterpart, and cross off any app that provides mobile access to a full-featured web service (e.g., Netflix, Facebook, Expensify, etc.), and what are you left with? A bunch of crappy IAP-based games mostly and not much else.
 
Apple was still “beleaguered” in those days, they are not anymore. iMac G3 (Bondi Blues) we’re everywhere, except maybe Eastern Europe.

No, they weren’t. I was there, in the UK, in Western Europe and Eastern Europe too if it matters so much to you (feels ad-hominem to me).

The world didn’t care much about the Mac then, and again without Jobs or Intel, history will probably repeat itself.
 
I really hope they name the Mac chips following the old G-series. G6, G7, etc. Throw some nostalgia at it.
 
They were demoing those apps on a maxed out Mac Pro. Of COURSE it's going to scroll smoothly. Would be pretty scary if it didn't on one of those beasts. What about a lesser, more realistic machine?
They were running on a Arm CPU, not on a regular Mac Pro. Likely it was an arm daughter card In a Mac Pro case. Either way, what you were seeing was the performance of the Apple chip. Not some Intel Xeon.
 
I use the same software on my intel iMac and A12Z iPad Pro. iPad even beats my iMac in certain tasks, let alone my old MBP.
I agree its a Desktop class processor I am with you on that, but what I would like to really see is Apple beating Intel on every account no matter how you do the benchmark. The likes of Linus on Youtube should shout ohh my god for a comparable processor Apple AX chips beats intel socks out of the water.
 
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Interesting. Some of us devs still need Windows for work, because that's how we're making a living. I wonder if we should carry 2 laptops now, or buy a MacBook while it's still Intel. Not sure.
I strongly considered buying a new MBP for use in college but wound up choosing a new HP. Now, I'm glad I did. I prefer keeping the two environments segregated, excluding occasional data transfers/sharing. That way, if your Windows (or vice versa) needs change, you can upgrade that system (hardware, software, or both) without needing to consider the requirements of the other platform(s). It is a little more costly, and seemingly more complex, though I believe more cost-effective.
 
I think that new ARM laptops will have touch screens. Note the enlarged buttons and the expanded text spaces in the new macOS.
 
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Yes that I true though, it depends on how good a Job Microsoft does with its rosetta equivalent, I still remember PowerPC to Intel transition using Rosetta and for me most apps worked really well even games I couldn't tell the difference at that time.
Apple did an excellent job of ensuring applications worked well during both 68K to PPC and PPC to Intel transitions. It was very seamless and painless. However performance was worse than on native hardware. The expectation being developers would offer native applications. Many did and many did not (likely as they were no longer in business)
 
There are basically two problems here: First one is that most engineering apps don't work in the Mac, and emulation is not an option for engineering. Second one is that, even if you admit buying a PC for engineering apps and then a Mac for the rest of apps, then you are locked into this new Bad Sur thing that behaves just like iOS (not only aesthetically, but in terms of user freedom as well). Putting both reasons together, time to move to Linux (and use engineering apps through VMware native performance rather than emulation).
 
This is terrifying for those of us with loads of TB3 devices. How is this going to pan out? Intel could always say piss off to Apple in regards to Thunderbolt.
It’s a dev kit. I’m pretty sure the intel transition kits didn’t have FireWire ports on them.

Apple is all-in on tb3. I was sceptical about the arm rumours in general but even I don’t think they’d just drop all tb3 compatibility
 
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I agree its a Desktop class processor I am with you on that, but what I would like to really see is Apple beating Intel on every account no matter how you do the benchmark. The likes of Linus on Youtube should shout ohh my god for a comparable processor Apple AX chips beats intel socks out of the water.
If a chip designed for a 2 year old iPad can beat intel's 2020 offerings, I'm 99% certain that a chip designed for a laptop or desktop will smoke it.

But to be honest I'd rather have a quiet mac as fast as an intel mac, but passively cooled, instead of a screamer mac, much faster than an intel mac, actively cooled.
 
PowerPC all over again. History repeating itself.

There are some differences. These days everyone is using XCode, so it’s going to be far easier to recompile universal binaries. That’s why we’ll have Office and Adobe apps native on day one. Also there’s the entire iOS/iPad software ecosystem, running native on day one. Also we’ve got 20+ years of progress in software development. Also, Apple has more resources than any other company on the planet to help them pull this off smoothly. They aren’t the little underdog company they were in the 90s.
 
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